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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1850 on: October 10, 2019, 13:45:39 »
I thought I read somewhere that this new bird has a better radar and EO/IR than the Aurora.

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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1851 on: October 10, 2019, 19:19:38 »
Is there a Buffalo “retirement party” planned?


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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1852 on: October 10, 2019, 20:51:11 »
Is there a Buffalo “retirement party” planned?


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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1853 on: October 10, 2019, 22:42:31 »
Is there a Buffalo “retirement party” planned?


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If sustainment costs aren't crazy I would hope they keep it as a training aircraft. Either for pilot training or technical training
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1854 on: October 10, 2019, 22:57:32 »
If sustainment costs aren't crazy I would hope they keep it as a training aircraft. Either for pilot training or technical training

No.  We have training platforms already.  We don't need more that are different.

The CAF need to stop being hoarders, keeping everything.
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1855 on: October 11, 2019, 02:09:49 »
The Buffalo will be retired/removed from RCAF inventory by 2021.  Some museums will receive a few for display, the others will be disposed of through standard practices.

The Sea King had a retirement gala last year, I imagine we should start planning something similar for the Buffalo. 
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1856 on: October 11, 2019, 05:51:39 »
The Buffalo will be retired/removed from RCAF inventory by 2021.  Some museums will receive a few for display, the others will be disposed of through standard practices.

The Sea King had a retirement gala last year, I imagine we should start planning something similar for the Buffalo.

Some (one?) Of the Sea Kings went to Borden for a training aid, which is appropriate.

That should be the closest a 40 year old airplane comes to being used for training.

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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1857 on: October 11, 2019, 14:14:51 »
The Buffalo will be retired/removed from RCAF inventory by 2021.  Some museums will receive a few for display, the others will be disposed of through standard practices.

The Sea King had a retirement gala last year, I imagine we should start planning something similar for the Buffalo.

If you do, plan for it to be held in a football stadium.... and then land everyone there for the party in Buffaloes :)
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1859 on: November 20, 2019, 18:28:53 »
Things like 'useful/accurate' AOIs (Aircraft Operating Instructions) etc are extremely valuable and important.  No iron in this particular fire, but I say "wait it out".
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1860 on: November 20, 2019, 20:06:31 »
Question?  Why would there be a document problem with a plane in production forever by the biggest manufacturer of planes in the world?

It can't be a "French Language" problem as Airbus is basically a French company.  I know the plane is made in Spain but really?  Could it be the special equipment just for Canada? 

It just sounds super amateurish from a first class company and it's not their first rodeo.

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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1861 on: November 20, 2019, 20:15:54 »
Question?  Why would there be a document problem with a plane in production forever by the biggest manufacturer of planes in the world?

It can't be a "French Language" problem as Airbus is basically a French company.  I know the plane is made in Spain but really?  Could it be the special equipment just for Canada? 

It just sounds super amateurish from a first class company and it's not their first rodeo.

Oops my English bias coming out.  Could it be with the English version?

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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1863 on: November 21, 2019, 21:02:12 »
Canada has purchased the latest variant of the -295, no other operator has our flight deck. 
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1865 on: December 20, 2019, 09:11:18 »
From the CAF FB Page:  There's several good pictures of her there as well.

Canada’s first Fixed-Wing Search and Rescue aircraft was formally accepted in Spain on December 18.

We are excited about the addition of the CC-295 to our fleet of search and rescue aircraft. This first aircraft will support further qualification work and initial operational testing and evaluation by Royal Canadian Air Force crews in Spain. It’s expected that this work will be completed by mid-2020, after which the aircraft will be on its way to Comox, B.C. to begin the fleet transition from the Buffalo aircraft.

In the meantime, we expect a training aircraft to arrive in Comox, B.C., in January. This aircraft will be a valuable training device for our maintenance crews. It will be disassembled upon arrival, and partially reassembled inside our new FWSAR training centre.

The new fixed-wing search and rescue aircraft will carry out critical, life-saving search and rescue missions across Canada’s vast and challenging territory, including the Arctic.
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1866 on: February 13, 2020, 10:40:46 »
I saw one of these when I was taking off from SVQ the other day.  Unfortunately, too dark/no time for a picture.

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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1868 on: March 09, 2020, 16:06:05 »
Old ones breaking down.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/aircraft-breakdowns-refuelling-problems-hit-military-search-and-rescue-missions/ar-BB10WTv5?ocid=spartanntp

I thought one of the new birds was already in Canada

Yes and that one was flown to the school, disassembled and to be used as a trainer. It is not the first operational aircraft
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Re: FWSAR (CC130H, Buffalo, C27J, V22): Status & Possibilities
« Reply #1869 on: March 09, 2020, 20:11:34 »
I thought one of the new birds was already in Canada
No trained crews to fly them.  It will be be some time before we are able to fight this aircraft operationally.  All part of the plan to replace them, it just takes more than just rubber on the tarmac.
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