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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #125 on: July 09, 2019, 08:23:25 »
Signing done,now let's start to build. ;D

https://youtu.be/CHlJYpP3dwQ
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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #126 on: July 17, 2019, 07:24:05 »
The new CSS (Combat Support Ship),namesign"The Den Helder A834"

In Dutch,sorry,but you"ll get the picture,in service(hopefully)by 2023.

https://i.ibb.co/zQj5r61/css.jpg
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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2019, 09:43:20 »
The new CSS (Combat Support Ship),namesign"The Den Helder A834"

In Dutch,sorry,but you"ll get the picture,in service(hopefully)by 2023.

https://i.ibb.co/zQj5r61/css.jpg

I couldn't find the exact article, but I did find another Dutch article on the same subject and below is the Google Translation:

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   Combat support ship / supply ship Den Helder
By: Jaime Karremann  Last edited: 23-11-2018

    The Combat Support Ship (CSS), either supply ship or tanker, will in the future have to supply naval vessels of, among others, the Dutch fleet with fuel, spare parts and ammunition. In 2017 it was announced that this capacity will be added to the fleet. The ship must be put into service in 2023 and will be Zr.Ms. Go to Den Helder.

    Go directly to specifications (at the bottom of this page).

    CSS Den Helder
    The Combat Support Ship (CSS) in a still from an animation of the name disclosure in November 2018. (Image: DMO)

    Tasks
    A supply ship has the task of supplying naval vessels at sea. This concerns fuel for ships and helicopters / aircraft, spare parts, ammunition and victories (food and drink). Thanks to a supplier, ships can stay at sea for a longer period of time, and are therefore also more flexible in the event of a suddenly changing assignment. A supplier can sail along in a context and then supply the ships during a large voyage (when the Dutch navy made far-away squadron trips, a supplier often went along and the Chinese navy ships that now call in Europe often also have a supply ship with them).

    Another possibility is that, for example, frigates patrol during a sea blockade in a certain delimited area. The tanker can then commute between the ports and the frigates with fresh food, fuel, etc. without the frigates having to leave their 'box'.

    In addition to supplying, combat support ships can also perform other logistical tasks. For example, transporting material or acting as a floating hospital. Of course they can also be used for more general marine tasks. The Zuiderkruis and Amsterdam have done anti-piracy and drug control. Nevertheless, the emphasis in the CSS is on supply tasks.

    LSV Damen
    The Logistics Support Vessel (LSV) from Damen forms the basis for the new supply ship, where the cutlery of the Karel Doorman is fitted. (Photo: Damen)

    Robust, simple, reliable
    Despite the name combat support ship, it is a supply ship such as the Amsterdam, Zuiderkruis and Pole Star. Project leader Paul de Leeuw said about this in an interview: 'That is also the wish of Admiral Kramer (Commander of the Royal Netherlands Navy, JK). He wants a robust, simple, reliable and sustainable ship. No hassle. But the Amsterdam was a single-hit ship This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow, and that is also the case with the Doorman When the ship was designed, they said we must build a real warship, including redundancy and duplication in systems. C.S.S.'

From a distant past: beer at sea.

    Based on design Damen plus Karel Doorman
    There is little time to get the ship up and running, therefore an existing design is chosen as the starting point. After the requirements and the 'further specifications of requirements' (staff requirements) were completed in the spring of 2018, the specifications were worked on. The cutlery that was used was the cutlery from the Karel Doorman, but that had to be adjusted to the wishes of the CSS and had to fit within the LSV design. The LSV is a design by Damen that the company had offered to Norway.

    Not only did the JSS specifications have to be adjusted, the design of the LSV also underwent considerable changes. One of the changes is the size. The LSV was approximately 166 to 170 meters long, the CSS at the end of 2018 was exactly 179.5 meters. This was mainly due to the requirement that the amount of fuel that the ship must be able to deliver is equal to the capacity of the Doorman. Furthermore, the bow has changed, it has become a lot straighter to save fuel.

    The tanker will have a displacement of approximately 20,000 tons. This may seem substantial, but a small tanker was deliberately not chosen (comparable to, for example, small German tankers) because those tankers are often intended for small ships and short operating periods. The new tanker must be able to support a task group of six ships, even in bad weather, and that is only possible with a larger ship. Because the tanker must be double-walled due to new regulations and modern requirements regarding ammunition storage, the volume has also increased.

    The supply ship will have combined loading positions on starboard, port and rear, a large crane and space for 20 containers. The crew will consist of 75 m / v, there are 160 beds on board.

    The ship will be built in Romania by Damen.  There may be cooperation with Germany.

Specifications

Signal: A83? Name: Den Helder In service: 2022
Dimensions: 179.5 meters
Max water displacement: 20,000 tons
Max speed: 20 knots?
Crew: 75 (accommodation: 160)
Diesel-electric propulsion: (same as JSS)
Weapon systems: Hitrole ? Goalkeeper
Sensors: Thales NS100 Navigation radar
Helicopters: Multiple helicopters
Loading capacity, among others: 20 containers

Link Note: I did some minor editing especially for the specifications page.
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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2019, 11:33:19 »
thanks  :D,seems to be translated quite good(but read it fast,so might be a few things here and there)
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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2019, 12:29:37 »
“This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow”.... I hope this is a Google translate error ... floating Casino?
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Re: Dutch ships and designs and the possibilities for Canada
« Reply #130 on: July 17, 2019, 13:51:58 »
“This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow”.... I hope this is a Google translate error ... floating Casino?

yeah,i think they meant"must be able to take a hit and defend herself"(a bit)
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