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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 11:21:33 »
Maybe he made a typo and it should have been "FFS"?    >:D

Lol!! I think that's what all of us are saying!
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 14:02:26 »
Whenever I got a really bright idea as CO, the RSM would come into the office and close the door.  We'd talk.  (No. Really.) When he left, I had an even better idea: his.

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2016, 07:42:26 »
Whenever I got a really bright idea as CO, the RSM would come into the office and close the door.  We'd talk.  (No. Really.) When he left, I had an even better idea: his.

That's awesome - RSM-ocracy at it's finest!
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2016, 21:19:29 »
(Couldn't watch this without remembering the  :2c:  :2c:  :2c: from this thread... )

http://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=870983

TORY HONOURS ROYAL REGIMENT OF CANADA

Toronto Mayor John Tory honoured the Royal Regiment of Canada today at the Freedom of the City Ceremony in Nathan Phillips Square.

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 02:23:18 »
(Couldn't watch this without remembering the  :2c:  :2c:  :2c: from this thread... )

http://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=870983

TORY HONOURS ROYAL REGIMENT OF CANADA

Toronto Mayor John Tory honoured the Royal Regiment of Canada today at the Freedom of the City Ceremony in Nathan Phillips Square.

Good thing their allied regiment is the Coldstream Guards.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2016, 13:49:37 »
(Couldn't watch this without remembering the  :2c:  :2c:  :2c: from this thread... )

http://www.cp24.com/video?clipId=870983

TORY HONOURS ROYAL REGIMENT OF CANADA

Toronto Mayor John Tory honoured the Royal Regiment of Canada today at the Freedom of the City Ceremony in Nathan Phillips Square.

Google Maps says it's 3.3 Km from City Hall to the RRC home station at Fort York Armoury, or 39 minutes at a brisk pace. I wonder if the OP was exaggerating a bit. BTW I thought  the FFO looked horrible, especially them all wearing ballistic eye protection. I guess whatever numpty at 32 Bde who planned this just got his leading change bubble filled in.  ::)
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2016, 14:02:59 »
Maybe I missed something here, Danjanou, but I watched the whole clip and the only person I saw wearing the FFO is the Lcol of the regiment. The other people all seem to be wearing only their CADPAT without the FFO, and of course, the Army cadets in the background are all wearing the old plain olive combat of lore.

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2016, 14:46:35 »
Sadly this is likely more a case of:

"Let's do this in scarlets"

"We don't have enough decent scarlets to go around."

"Ok, in DEU then."

"Yeah, none of our new recruits or BMQ guys can get initial issue and the rest are missing parts are won't be ready on time or don't have enough points for what they need."

"Hmn, combats then, in FFO for good measure."

The end.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2016, 15:00:20 »
Again Remius, I see the Lcol in FFO, but everybody else in CADPAT with berets only, unless someone has other videos or pictures that show otherwise.

The press release, however, invites people to "witness the military pageantry of the Royal regiment of Canada".

Not much pageantry in a bunch of guys and gals in CADPAT if you ask me  ;D. If the logic is as you posted Remius, it would have had more pageantry to have a third of the regiment out in scarlets, with guns and bayonets fixed, followed by another third in DEU and a last third in CADPAT. 

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2016, 15:16:01 »
As with most parades on film, the focus was (unfortunately) on the folks in front jabbering and not the troops on parade.

I strongly suspect that if the CO was in FFO with BEW, then so was the rest of the unit.  Unless the RSM changed the order of dress and told everyone except for the CO.  Which would be the all-time greatest RSM stunt in history.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2016, 15:46:10 »
Maybe I missed something here, Danjanou, but I watched the whole clip and the only person I saw wearing the FFO is the Lcol of the regiment. The other people all seem to be wearing only their CADPAT without the FFO, and of course, the Army cadets in the background are all wearing the old plain olive combat of lore.



yeah you're right dude no FFO on parade  8)

Sadly this is likely more a case of:

"Let's do this in scarlets"

"We don't have enough decent scarlets to go around."

"Ok, in DEU then."

"Yeah, none of our new recruits or BMQ guys can get initial issue and the rest are missing parts are won't be ready on time or don't have enough points for what they need."

"Hmn, combats then, in FFO for good measure."

The end.

I think you're right. mind I've seen all three orders of dress on the same parade and even in the same guard  :o
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2016, 15:57:27 »
Like I said Danjanou, I watched the video clip only. Thanks for the picture, which I hadn't seen. So obviously FFO.

However, I stand by the fact that the logic proposed by Remius doesn't cut it.

In fact, I found this interesting little clip from one of their Church (?) parade in 2008. Obviously mixing Scarlet's, DEU's and CADPAT was not a problem then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzc2tJTQcsY

Seems to me this may be a case of a Colonel that needs a RSM that is not a gofer but a nofer, i.e. one that can tell his C.O. "Nofer gawd's sake, Sir! That is a bad idea".

I stand by my other comment: Not much military pageantry in a bunch of people dressed in CADPAT with FFO  [:D

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2016, 16:03:02 »
I agree, it don't look right and neither does the mixed dress either. I know the RSM. I'm sure he had counsel and advice for his CO, however apparently it was not entertained.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2016, 16:26:04 »


yeah you're right dude no FFO on parade  8)

I think you're right. mind I've seen all three orders of dress on the same parade and even in the same guard  :o

I know the Foulds family. A long line of 'Royals'. Andy Foulds was a friend of my Dad's and served with the regiment throughout WW2. His son was on my Phase III Inf.

Would they would be outraged? Pretty much....
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2016, 16:54:06 »
I agree, it don't look right and neither does the mixed dress either. I know the RSM. I'm sure he had counsel and advice for his CO, however apparently it was not entertained.

Maybe done with mind to spite the Liberals.  You know... *low menacing growl* "Canadian cities. Soldiers with guns. In our cities. In Canada." 

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2016, 18:59:12 »

However, I stand by the fact that the logic proposed by Remius doesn't cut it.


My theory does not imply that actual logic was used in this decision...but as long as they had a good time.  I've never seen colours marched on in ffo before, or even just combats.  Hurts my eyes.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2016, 19:23:50 »
Just a minute.  If the RRC was just granted Freedom of the City, it means when they entered the square they would have had bayonets sheathed.  Only after being granted freedom of the City would they be entitled to fix bayonets.

I'd love to have seen the drill to fix bayonets, drawing it from the chest...
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2016, 19:24:31 »
http://ctv.news/wSXddMb

Looks like the uniforms are right out of the jar. 

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2016, 19:33:28 »
http://ctv.news/wSXddMb

"...from the Moss Park Armoury to Nathan Phillips Square.."  ???
00:27

That's only about 1 km., ( if the news report is accurate ).



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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2016, 19:53:11 »
Just a minute.  If the RRC was just granted Freedom of the City, it means when they entered the square they would have had bayonets sheathed.  Only after being granted freedom of the City would they be entitled to fix bayonets.

I'd love to have seen the drill to fix bayonets, drawing it from the chest...

They already had Freedom of the City granted, they were just exercising their right.

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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2016, 21:14:09 »
At the 0:12 mark the RRC appears to be passing under the gates of the CNE, which if memory serves is closer to Fort York than Moss Park.



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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2016, 21:20:09 »
At the 0:12 mark the RRC appears to be passing under the gates of the CNE, which if memory serves is closer to Fort York than Moss Park.

Yes, it shows them at FYA and the Princess Gates heading for Strachan Ave. Probably just the reporter got a little confused.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2016, 10:16:24 »
"...from the Moss Park Armoury to Nathan Phillips Square.."  ???
00:27

That's only about 1 km., ( if the news report is accurate ).

I once participated in a Freedom of the City in Fredericton where our FUP was approximately 500m from the dias and reviewing stands.  We marched a very circuitous route taking us westwards away from the FUP, northwards along the waterfront, back to the east and then south onto the main drag again through downtown (changing arms on the march as we went).  Did the parade which granted us The Freedom of The City, then marched the route once again with bayonets mounted.

Beat the hell out of all the practices for the parade ... forming up at B6 MSA in Gagetown, drawing weapons then marching to the Camp Argonaut Parade Square for the practices, then back to the MSA again after the practices were done ... every day for a week.  4+km round trip just to get to the practices.  Let's just say that the troops were very adept at changing arms on the march after a mere Day 2 ...
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2016, 10:54:58 »
If they marched from FYA to NPS, the traffic congestion along the parade route must have been severe.
The reason I say that is because the entire Gardiner Expressway was shut down for spring maintenance that weekend - including the demolition of the Dowling Ave. bridge.
The City had been warning motorists to brace themselves for the closure since February.
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Re: Drill (Parade) in FFO
« Reply #49 on: May 18, 2016, 06:49:47 »
This parade is an absolute @#$%^&! travesty.  And Jesus wept...
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