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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #450 on: April 01, 2017, 07:58:49 »
Anyone know how Bombardier is making out after the Liberals gave them millions of dollars?  Probably saved a lot of jobs eh? Maybe even created a bunch of new jobs?
Better or worse than after getting $350m from Team Blue?  Discuss  ;D
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #451 on: April 01, 2017, 11:50:40 »
Better or worse than after getting $350m from Team Blue?  Discuss  ;D



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The Harper government's announcement of $350-million in loans for Montreal-based Bombardier is an especially sweet commitment for the Conservatives: It may help boost their sagging fortunes in Quebec and doesn't cost them a penny of extra spending.

The loan money to help Bombardier build its new C Series jets was set aside in the 2005 federal budget and announced by the former Liberal government that spring.

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #452 on: April 01, 2017, 11:53:47 »
"Team Red"......Now is that term more of a Freudian Slip as to how their actually like to treat the Federal Budget, or are we just going to stick with their Party Colour?

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #453 on: April 01, 2017, 12:37:42 »
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #454 on: April 08, 2017, 10:12:39 »


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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #455 on: April 08, 2017, 12:04:09 »
The whole PM Selfie thing got old for me a long time ago, too, but I can find loads of better crap to call him out on. Sadly, for Team Blue, the Rebel trying to become the media wing of the CPC only does damage to the next CPC leader, IMO.

Wait, in the interest of balance:



Oh, the vanity...


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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #456 on: April 08, 2017, 13:33:41 »
Party politics aside, is there ever a bad time for a selfie? Say cheese!  :)

Rob posing at a streetcar fatality - St Clair Ave. West at Keele St.

Councillor Doug Ford "funeral selfies". Rob is laying in state at City Hall.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/03/29/doug-ford-selfies-rob-ford-funeral_n_9563896.html






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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #457 on: April 08, 2017, 13:39:40 »
Hey mariomike!  Where's the edge of the universe?  [:D
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #458 on: April 08, 2017, 14:37:53 »
Yup - self-centred entitled liberals indeed
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #459 on: April 08, 2017, 17:47:48 »
The whole PM Selfie thing got old for me a long time ago, too, but I can find loads of better crap to call him out on.

Realize it's an easy (and old) joke and I expect a degree of narcissism from all politicians but Trudeau is beyond reason Imo.
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #460 on: April 08, 2017, 18:05:11 »
For anyone interested,

Ottawa’s reigning political selfie junkie is not who you think
http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawas-reigning-political-selfie-junkie-is-not-who-you-think/
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #461 on: April 08, 2017, 18:17:48 »
Back over to team red  ;D
1)  I wonder how far back it can go?
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... "Bombardier established its strategy a long time ago, with the federal government as the milch cow," said one academic, who spoke on condition he not be named because of his ties to people with Bombardier connections.

"It really started during the Mulroney era and has continued through the Chrétien regime." ...
2)  Just like the New Veterans Charter, if only there had been a government in place, ideally a majority government, to do things differently, or to do the right thing -- you continue it without stopping or changing it, it's now yours.
Blue Team, up?   ;D

To be fair to both teams, I think columnist Chantal Hebert sums up Canada's relationship with Bombardier quite well ...
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It has long been taken for granted that no prime minister, no Quebec premier would ever let Bombardier go under on his or her watch ...
When it comes to Bombardier, as others smarter than me have said, Liberal, Tory, same old story ...
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #462 on: April 08, 2017, 18:51:56 »
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A "basket" of goods and services
...that cost: $8.70 in 1983
...would cost: $19.87 in 2017

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/rates/related/inflation-calculator/

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The aerospace industry in Canada has exploded to $20.3-billion today from $8.7-billion in sales in 1983.

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The number of Canadians employed in the industry has jumped to 91,500 over the same period from 53,000. Bombardier is a big part of that.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/bombardier-ties-with-ottawa-run-deep/article25429432/

I wonder if the 8.7 to 20.3 is adjusted for inflation?  If not then the industry is not booming but has marked time while becoming 42% less productive. 
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #463 on: April 09, 2017, 14:58:14 »
I personally think that the government should stop wasting its time buying public entities and successful natural resources. It should save money to buy Bombardier, finance&restructure it for a 50 yr contract so it'll be a long time until this happens again.


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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #464 on: April 09, 2017, 16:30:30 »
So Donald Trump makes a crude remark about women and he's the devil incarnate, but Wab Kinew can sell records rife with misogyny and homophobia, but everything's OK because he apologized, and he's a socialist.

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #465 on: April 09, 2017, 18:36:27 »
I personally think that the government should stop wasting its time buying public entities and successful natural resources. It should save money to buy Bombardier, finance&restructure it for a 50 yr contract so it'll be a long time until this happens again.


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How about; if a company can't show itself of NOT being profitable for a period of three or more decades, it NOT get Public Bailouts and die a natural death ??
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #466 on: April 09, 2017, 19:04:49 »
............... but Wab Kinew can sell records rife with misogyny and homophobia, but everything's OK because he apologized, and he's a socialist.

Who???
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #467 on: April 09, 2017, 19:49:24 »
Who???

NDP MLA in Manitoba. He is a candidate for leadership of the NDP in that province.

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #468 on: April 09, 2017, 20:08:38 »
NDP MLA in Manitoba. He is a candidate for leadership of the NDP in that province.

Also used to work for the CBC.

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #469 on: April 09, 2017, 21:05:29 »
How about; if a company can't show itself of NOT being profitable for a period of three or more decades, it NOT get Public Bailouts and die a natural death ??
Good point. That would be common sense. 30 years definitely sounds like a fair amount of time for bombardier


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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #470 on: April 12, 2017, 18:42:52 »
All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.
 

/RANT OFF.
 
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #471 on: April 12, 2017, 19:09:13 »
Exactly what I thought when I saw her down there.
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #472 on: April 12, 2017, 20:54:14 »
Careful now, you'll bring some clouds into those sunny skies,  I mean ways.  Maybe some tears from some too.   :nod:
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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #473 on: April 14, 2017, 00:54:52 »
Bombard's Body Language: Justin Trudeau On North Korea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvG1uzfwHbk

She's done a couple of assessments of PM Selfie's appearances before, and I've posted the links. I find them accurate and painfully humorous.

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Re: Politics in 2017
« Reply #474 on: April 14, 2017, 11:19:43 »
All right: I just have to let some serious steam off now:

I've had it with that S.O.B. Prime Minister who thinks he OWNS the friggin Parliament for his personal and family enjoyment.

We have a new honorific citizen, Malalla. A well deserved honour. But the PM's wife is NOT, underline NOT a member of Parliament and has absolutely no business whatsoever being on the floor of the Commons with ther husband. She can be in the gallery, in prominent place,  but the floor is for Parliamentarians (which includes the senators) and the officials of Parliament only.

Who does she think she is ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

If she wants to go there: stand for office and get elected or get the hell out.

P.S.: I am quite disappointed in the person who does "own" the Commons, the president, for not sending a page over to the PM just before the beginning of the proceedings to gently prod him on the fact that it would now be appropriate for his spouse to repair to the gallery.
 

/RANT OFF.

Perhaps you haven't ever watched an address to parliament? Perhaps your outrage is a little late?

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/simerg.com/2014/03/01/in-a-dynamic-and-stirring-address-to-members-of-the-canadian-parliament-his-highness-the-aga-khan-shares-his-faith-perspectives-on-the-imamat-collaboration-with-canada-the-muslim-world-community-t/amp/

The Supreme Court Justices and many invited guests are also there.  The Justices and Senators also sit in the commons chamber on the floor (well, in chairs).  The chamber is not in session, and is used as an auditorium for the address.  To put it bluntly, you know not of what you speak.
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