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Alrighty! So I will have to get right into my current situation (any and all information shared, I am fine with people knowing);

Age: 28
Weight: 150lbs
Height: 5'8-5'9
No children
No spouse

Build: Thin - Fit

Currently I am traveling across Canada on a motorized peddle bicycle I've built, so far I've clocked in six and a half weeks camping out in the woods with a couple campgrounds and rest stops here and there. I've traveled over 1500 kms exploring and adventuring along the way. I've traveled from Winnipeg, MB to Edmonton, AB so far and plan to travel to the coast, then back into the mountains, either to the Jasper or Banff area for the winter. I'll be setting up a short term shelter and camp to live through the winter to test myself and gain more skills and experience in the field of survival.

As for my current skills, it's hard to start at any one place, but I have experience doing nearly everything, my current skills are (descending order in years);

Painting (industrial & residential) - Automotive Body Technician & Painter - Cook - Drywall - Carpentry - Roofing - Concrete (industrial & residential) - Fencing - Landscaping - Flooring & Various other general labor jobs over the years.

I also have HR training and went to college for Business Administration, I've operated a couple different business (auto-body, residential painting and video game design). I have a small amount of experience in 3D design, modeling and animating, along with a small amount of computer programming knowledge. I'm quite skilled with Windows Office and computers in general (as most are my age - plus my Business Administration training), along with basic accounting and database software

I can grasp onto many languages quite well and enjoy learning them, currently I know "Hello" and "Goodbye" in over a dozen languages. I would love to become fully English - French bi-lingual and can understand a good majority of most French, unless it's spoken quickly. I can also mostly understand people speaking different languages incredibly well by paying attention to conjunctions and body language.

I can also gauge peoples emotional state, understanding and comprehension extremely well and have used that as an ESL teacher when I was in High School (I was graded as having university level reading, comprehension and writing when only in grade nine and was offered to be an ESL teacher because of those skills). Also, while in high-school and junior high I was both a student counselor (conflict resolution & student distress relief) and a part of the Student Counsel, I excelled at both roles. I gained more experience with all of those skills by being a security guard at the Canada Post office in downtown Winnipeg.

I excel in leadership roles and training others, because of my patience, understanding and ability to operate while under pressure. I full well understand the knowledge and skills needed to be a leader and look forward to being with the military to hone those skills and gain more applicable experience for any scenario.  :cdnsalute:

Now that everyone reading this has an understanding of me, my current situation and skills, here comes various questions;

    • If I join the Reserves, is it only for the Army, can it be for Navy and Air reserves? (Altogether, or individually?)
    • If I join the Regular Army, can I be a part of all three or am I limited to one?
    • If I am limited to one, which would be best suited for me? (I would love to be a pilot, paratrooper and also be trained for ground based Special Operations, if possible)
    • What part of the army is best suited for someone who wants to travel and see the world? (I would be traveling the world regardless of joining the military)
    • Because I am also very spiritual and have studied various religions my entire life, I would want to be a Chaplain, but would not want to be forced into a prohibition of bearing arms. Is there a way that I can still work as a Chaplain within the military?
    • I feel I would be extremely suited as an officer, though would not want to be stuck behind a desk in any regard and would rather "get my boots wet" until I am incapable of serving at my best, is being an officer limited to desk duty?
    • I am not the greatest long distance runner, in any regard, what is the average recommended distance that I should train for? (I can walk for what seems unlimited kilometers, I've still yet walked a distance I couldn't handle, though with my 50-60lbs of gear I can walk easily 10 kms)
    • Which position within the military allows me to gain the most varied amount of skills and experience?

Added questions after reading and researching other posts that were not clearly outlined in the original post/thread:

  • Because I have no set residence and just travel and live where I want to (not quite a "homeless person" but still have no mailing address or place of residence) will that make it more difficult for enrollment? I live and work wherever I want to and live a free life, not being held down by conventional living standards and am a very clean well kept individual. (You wouldn't guess that I was actually homeless unless you asked me.)
  • Where should I apply to if I live in this type of situation? I am going to join the regular forces and do everything full-time and live on base for the duration of training before deployment. (If at all possible)
  • There are many choices of trades to take within the military and I am still unsure what would best suit my abilities and keep me challenged. When I was 19 I went to a recruiting office in Winnipeg and the recruitment officer was looking to get me into logistics... I'm not going to work as a warehouse person. (I honestly don't care about the paycheck, what I care about is the skills and experience I gain and what the military needs from me.)
  • When I join, I would like to do full-time training with very little respite between, am I forced to wait for specific dates for certain areas? Or could I simply travel to a new training site and continue training?
  • From the answers given Navy is a great way to travel and as mentioned, that's if you are LUCKY, though I'm not interesting in only port cities and want to focus on humanitarian missions for the most part. Because of all my current skills I feel I would be an asset to crews helping to rebuild or stabilize countries currently experiencing hardships such as Yemen, Syria, Sudan, etc.
  • Is the 2.4 kilometer in under 12 minutes still a standard? From the links received they are mostly older posts, just making sure that information is up to date. I feel I can do that easily as that is no distance at all at a light jogging speed, which I am fine with, it is full out running that taxes me as I am a smoker, though will be quitting within the month while out in my mountain excursion.


I will most likely add to this list and edit (strikeout) it as answers are given.

I hope this is not too much for people to handle, or maybe it is just enough, in any case, if anyone has questions, feel free to ask, I'm an open book.

Thanks everyone for taking your time to read all of this and for taking your time to reply.

I look forward to potentially becoming a part of the family and can't wait to gain the skills and experience I am looking for!

Will Flett



After reading through all of the links posted I've gained quite a bit of insight to most of my questions, other than my current living situation, that I will most likely need to wait for a reply on the Navy.ca forum that was listed as "General Questions regarding your application".

The rest of the information most likely I will end up receiving after completing an aptitude test through a recruiting agency.

I am still hoping to find someone who could suggest what kind of trade I should apply to, something that can challenge me (often I get bored if not challenged), something that can keep giving me more skills of various kinds (which is the reason why I want to join the CF).

I also understand that the best mentality of going into the application process is to almost accept whatever you can "deal with" for the longest amount of time. Honestly, I won't ever settle for that kind of mentality, I'm not looking for "just a paycheck" or for the government to pay for "free university or college". Simply put, I want to make a difference while doing something I love, if I'm not doing that, I'll continue doing what I'm already doing, I have no need to live in the average/normal paradigm.



The top five things I love to do, in order;
  • Help People
  • Work in a Team
  • Be a Leader
  • Gain Skills & Experience
  • Travel

Because of this, I figure CF is the place for me, for life.  :cdnsalute:    :cdn:[/list]
« Last Edit: August 05, 2017, 01:11:14 by WFlett »
I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 08:26:10 »
If I join the Reserves, is it only for the Army, can it be for Navy and Air reserves? (Altogether, or individually?)

QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=16735.125
11 pages.

If I join the Regular Army, can I be a part of all three or am I limited to one?

Purple Trades: Definition & Trg Discussion 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=22558.200
11 pages.

If I am limited to one, which would be best suited for me? (I would love to be a pilot, paratrooper and also be trained for ground

The "So You Want To Be A Pilot" Merged Thread 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12744.0
55 pages.

What part of the army is best suited for someone who wants to travel and see the world? (I would be traveling the world regardless of joining the military)

Navy good career to see the world?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=65076.0
2 pages.

Because I am also very spiritual and have studied various religions my entire life, I would want to be a Chaplain, but would not want to be forced into a prohibition of bearing arms. Is there a way that I can still work as a Chaplain within the military?

Chaplain
https://www.google.ca/search?rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-CA%3AIE-Address&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&biw=1280&bih=603&q=site%3Aarmy.ca++chaplain&oq=site%3Aarmy.ca++chaplain&gs_l=psy-ab.3...27586.31683.0.33619.13.13.0.0.0.0.97.976.13.13.0.foo%2Cersl%3D1%2Cfett%3D1%2Cewh%3D0%2Cnso-enksa%3D0%2Cnso-enfk%3D1%2Cnso-usnt%3D1%2Cnso-qnt-npqp%3D0-1%2Cnso-qnt-npdq%3D0-45%2Cnso-qnt-npt%3D0-09%2Cnso-qnt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mnp%3D0-045%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mxp%3D0-1125%2Cnso-unt-npqp%3D0-15%2Cnso-unt-npdq%3D0-25%2Cnso-unt-npt%3D0-06%2Cnso-unt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mnp%3D0-0075%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mxp%3D0-0525...0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.u_bHYmsNVVc

Padre
https://www.google.ca/search?rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-CA%3AIE-Address&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&biw=1280&bih=603&q=site%3Aarmy.ca++padre&oq=site%3Aarmy.ca++padre&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0.0.14742.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.foo%2Cersl%3D1%2Cfett%3D1%2Cewh%3D0%2Cnso-enksa%3D0%2Cnso-enfk%3D1%2Cnso-usnt%3D1%2Cnso-qnt-npqp%3D0-1%2Cnso-qnt-npdq%3D0-45%2Cnso-qnt-npt%3D0-09%2Cnso-qnt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mnp%3D0-045%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mxp%3D0-1125%2Cnso-unt-npqp%3D0-15%2Cnso-unt-npdq%3D0-25%2Cnso-unt-npt%3D0-06%2Cnso-unt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mnp%3D0-0075%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mxp%3D0-0525...0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0.cvrUIMrG9ZQ

I feel I would be extremely suited as an officer, though would not want to be stuck behind a desk in any regard and would rather "get my boots wet" until I am incapable of serving at my best, is being an officer limited to desk duty?

Comparing the job of Officer vs NCM [MERGED]
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=171.0
25 pages.

I am not the greatest long distance runner, in any regard, what is the average recommended distance that I should train for? (I can walk for what seems unlimited kilometers, I've still yet walked a distance I couldn't handle, though with my 50-60lbs of gear I can walk easily 10 kms)

Running: Training, Problems, Techniques, Questions, etc 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,22788.0/nowap.html
19 pages.

Running
https://www.google.ca/search?rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-CA%3AIE-Address&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&biw=1280&bih=603&q=site%3Aarmy.ca++running&oq=site%3Aarmy.ca++running&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0.0.13011.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0.foo%2Cersl%3D1%2Cfett%3D1%2Cewh%3D0%2Cnso-enksa%3D0%2Cnso-enfk%3D1%2Cnso-usnt%3D1%2Cnso-qnt-npqp%3D0-1%2Cnso-qnt-npdq%3D0-45%2Cnso-qnt-npt%3D0-09%2Cnso-qnt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mnp%3D0-045%2Ccspa-dspm-nm-mxp%3D0-1125%2Cnso-unt-npqp%3D0-15%2Cnso-unt-npdq%3D0-25%2Cnso-unt-npt%3D0-06%2Cnso-unt-ndc%3D300%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mnp%3D0-0075%2Ccspa-uipm-nm-mxp%3D0-0525...0...1..64.psy-ab..0.0.0.CchiIQkoUng

Which position within the military allows me to gain the most varied amount of skills and experience?

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https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/caf-jobs.html

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of up to date information.

« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 08:42:10 by mariomike »
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2017, 10:32:19 »
You want to be a Pilot,a Paratrooper but also trained for the ground?  I assume you mean trained to fight on the ground?  Well, a Pilot fighting on the ground is probably a sign things went bad for them. Also, once a Paratrooper lands in the ground they will do whatever their job is(Infantry, Engineer, Medic, etc). You also don't join as a Paratrooper or get that training guaranteed. You also can't join as Special Forces, you will need some time in the military before you can try out for that. The 

A Chaplain will not carry a weapon or be employed in a role that requires the use of a weapon. It's a non combatant role, regardless if you want to be armed or not.

Reading the threads Mario Mike posted, will help you better understand the military and Reserves vs Regular Force.


Also, if want to travel the world, etc. With the current Op Tempo, I would recommend looking at Air Force and Navy trades.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 10:52:36 by LightFighter »

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2017, 18:01:45 »
Thank you very much mariomike for all of the links to my various questions, I had looked at most of them already before posting my own thread, such as the Chaplaincy course, which is how I knew you needed to be a non combatant and prohibited from bearing arms.

As for Lightfighter; Yes, I am well aware that having necessary training as a paratrooper means that you are mainly trained for ground missions, which is kind of why I was mentioning, I would rather be on the ground. Though I would love to be something like an "auxiliary pilot", be trained as both a "air bus", jet fighter pilot and a helicopter pilot. Though mostly it is just to gain the experience and if need be, be capable of piloting either types of craft if the need arose or something happened to my pilot and co-pilot.

Thanks for mentioning that you can not join specifically as a paratrooper, though, as mentioned, it is more skills that I would love to gain. I've always wanted to sky-dive, base jump and be capable of using wing-suits, all of which I think would be great experience and knowledge to be a paratrooper, infantry and as mentioned, Spec Ops.

I was also well aware that you would have to be within the military for some time before even attempting to join a Spec Ops team; what I was wondering was how long do you need to be in the military to join it, what special skills and training you should receive before even applying. Also what type of special operations unit would best suit my current capabilities.

In any case, thank you both again for replying to my thread, I will be spending the rest of the day reading and researching it all in depth.

I wouldn't mind a more personalized response still from people within the different fields to give me pointers and suggestions, which is why I posted in the forums instead of just reading the different FAQ pages. Though honestly, this helped me save quite a bit of research time, instead of reading unnecessary information to my relevant questions. Eventually, I will read all of the FAQ just to gain a wide range of knowledge about the military.
I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2017, 18:06:49 »
Thank you very much mariomike for all of the links to my various questions,

You are welcome. Good luck.  :)

I was also well aware that you would have to be within the military for some time before even attempting to join a Spec Ops team; what I was wondering was how long do you need to be in the military to join it, what special skills and training you should receive before even applying. Also what type of special operations unit would best suit my current capabilities.

Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=35793.450
23 pages.


« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 18:13:59 by mariomike »
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2017, 18:20:31 »
Though I would love to be something like an "auxiliary pilot", be trained as both a "air bus", jet fighter pilot and a helicopter pilot. Though mostly it is just to gain the experience and if need be, be capable of piloting either types of craft if the need arose or something happened to my pilot and co-pilot.

Unless you are a pilot, you will not be trained as a pilot. Also, even a Pilot will not be trained on every aircraft in the CAF.

Thanks for mentioning that you can not join specifically as a paratrooper, though, as mentioned, it is more skills that I would love to gain. I've always wanted to sky-dive, base jump and be capable of using wing-suits, all of which I think would be great experience and knowledge to be a paratrooper, infantry and as mentioned, Spec Ops.

You won't be trained to BASE jump or use wing suits in the CAF.  Also the only sky diving within the CAF would be the Sky Hawks.  During your career in the CAF you may get an opportunity to attend Basic Para, Free Fall, etc or you may never get that chance. 


I was also well aware that you would have to be within the military for some time before even attempting to join a Spec Ops team; what I was wondering was how long do you need to be in the military to join it, what special skills and training you should receive before even applying. Also what type of special operations unit would best suit current capabilities.

You need a couple years(I believe 2 for Regular Force) in and be trade qualified to apply for CANSOFCOM.  You don't need to learn any special skills, etc before applying to CANSOF. They will train you for the role you apply for after selection. Members from various trades(including non Combat Arms, Navy and Air Force) have successfully become JTF2 Assaulters and CSOR Operators.  As for what SOF is best suited to your skills, well get some time in, learn your job and research CANSOF units than apply to the one you feel you would like to join. Read up on their specific roles and go from there.


I wouldn't mind a more personalized response still from people within the different fields to give me pointers and suggestions, which is why I posted in the forums instead of just reading the different FAQ pages. Though honestly, this helped me save quite a bit of research time, instead of reading unnecessary information to my relevant questions. Eventually, I will read all of the FAQ just to gain a wide range of knowledge about the military.

What kind of personalized response are you looking for?  MarioMike posted numerous links with info to questions you asked. The info wasn't directly posted here but is available in the threads posted as well as other related info. Also, some of your posts seems like you want people to tell you what job to apply for, or what SOF unit to apply dor(ambitious considering you are a couple years from that at least)this is something you will have to do yourself. 

Once you read up more and get specific questions, ask.  This reply has been my personal reply to you, and I'm in the Infantry which is one of the roles you were interested in.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 20:52:04 by LightFighter »

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2017, 18:28:43 »
Unfortunately, no "personalized" answer based on a set of "skills" (as opposed to degree) is really possible since we all know that , once you're hired in the CAF, your skills ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s1s5K52zEQ

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2017, 18:34:52 »
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  • If I join the Reserves, is it only for the Army, can it be for Navy and Air reserves? (Altogether, or individually?)
You can not be a member of all 3 at the same time, you are either Army, Navy or Air Force.

[quote[/li][li]If I join the Regular Army, can I be a part of all three or am I limited to one?[/li][/list][/quote]
Like above, you can't be a member of all 3 at the same time. However depending on your trade you may be able to work with all 3, example a Medic posted to an Army unit than later on posted to an Air Force unit, etc. 

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  • If I am limited to one, which would be best suited for me? (I would love to be a pilot, paratrooper and also be trained for ground based Special Operations, if possible)
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Which ever one has the job you are most interested in. Also any trade can apply for CANSOFCOM

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  • What part of the army is best suited for someone who wants to travel and see the world? (I would be traveling the world regardless of joining the military)
Travel really comes down to luck, what is going on, etc. Some get to travel all over, some never see anything other than Wainwright.  If you wish to travel often, I would recommend looking at the Air Force and Navy.

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[li]Because I am also very spiritual and have studied various religions my entire life, I would want to be a Chaplain, but would not want to be forced into a prohibition of bearing arms. Is there a way that I can still work as a Chaplain within the military?[/li][/list]

Padres do not carry weapons, even if they wanted to.  That won't change to accommodate you.

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  • I feel I would be extremely suited as an officer, though would not want to be stuck behind a desk in any regard and would rather "get my boots wet" until I am incapable of serving at my best, is being an officer limited to desk duty?

Depends on the job, but there will be desk work for all. An Infantry Officers first posting into battalion will be as a Platoon Commander, and you will be out in the field with the platoon leading them. Your time as a Platoon Commander won't last forever and you will be posted to various positions in and out of battalion.

Even as a NCM there is office work(we aren't training non stop) especially once you get into leadership positions.

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  • I am not the greatest long distance runner, in any regard, what is the average recommended distance that I should train for? (I can walk for what seems unlimited kilometers, I've still yet walked a distance I couldn't handle, though with my 50-60lbs of gear I can walk easily 10 kms)
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Run for at least 5km in 30mins to start for BMQ prep.  Past BMQ, you may be taken on runs up to 10km(possibly longer) depending on your trade courses and unit.  If you go Infantry during ex or on course, operation, etc you can carry far more than 50lbs, and you won't be well rested for it.  The better overall shape you are in the better.

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  • Which position within the military allows me to gain the most varied amount of skills and experience?

All will have opportunities for various skills/qualifications; but not one single trade opens every door for courses, postings, opportunities, etc. Most of the courses you go in will revolve around your job and career progression.
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2017, 18:45:39 »
I assessed you're strengths and weaknesses and came up with regular force infantry non-commissioned member.
 
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2017, 19:01:03 »
Again, thanks everyone for replying to my thread, I've updated/edited my main post to strike-out answers I've found or question that no longer pertain to what I was looking for.

Although a paycheck is not necessary, I do still want to be commissioned, unless as a non-commissioned, sergeant for example or equivalent I would still receive a paycheck? I do plan to pay for my own gear and specialized equipment and re-invest my military career income into non-profit organizations and for other advanced training programs, such as my own training base jumping, wing-suit use and other such skills that are not included in the CAF training programs.

As mentioned, skills and experience is wealth to me, not money, but money is necessary to pay for these training programs.
I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2017, 19:07:24 »
Although a paycheck is not necessary, I do still want to be commissioned, unless as a non-commissioned, sergeant for example or equivalent I would still receive a paycheck?

Uh, yes...NCMs get paid.  They aren't in it purely for kicks, ya know.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/reg-force-ncm-class-c-rates.page
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2017, 19:14:23 »
Uh, yes...NCMs get paid.  They aren't in it purely for kicks, ya know.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/reg-force-ncm-class-c-rates.page

Thanks, I'm used to working piece work or under commission, so hearing/reading the term non-commissioned automatically suggests in my mind that you are basically volunteering.

Thanks for the clarification.

Unfortunately, no "personalized" answer based on a set of "skills" (as opposed to degree) is really possible since we all know that , once you're hired in the CAF, your skills ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s1s5K52zEQ

Sorry!  ;D

I loved that response, the only degree I have is in Business Administration.

Which was specifically to own and operate my own business and gain more skills and experience.
I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2017, 19:14:35 »
Quote from: WFlett[/quote
I do plan to pay for my own gear and specialized equipment and re-invest my military career income into non-profit organizations and for other advanced training programs, such as my own training base jumping, wing-suit use and other such skills that are not included in the CAF training programs.

As mentioned, skills and experience is wealth to me, not money, but money is necessary to pay for these training programs.

Millbrook tactical just opened up shop in Petawawa. You can sink some paychecks into their factory seconds arc'teryx kit while simultaneously buying some pistol, carbine and defensive driving packages.  If you unlock enough skill points in in the infantry character tree you can progress to the Patrol Path Finder (PPF) course. One of their modes of operation is to use the wing-suits you're talking about and jump from high up buildings, balloons or even out of the backs of aircraft to air-assault on to their objectives (think ODST). I'm not sure if you'll be able to get a waiver for the X95 you're buying as there isn't a lot of bullpup love yet in the forces. (just some chicken love, depending on where you go).
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2017, 19:17:37 »

I do plan to pay for my own gear and specialized equipment

You probably have little to no idea of what the CAF will give you for equipment let alone the policies on non issue items. Yet you are already planning on buying all kinds of gear? 

What gear and specialized equipment are you planning on getting?

Depending on your unit, you may not be allowed anything that wasn't issued. With the units that do allow non issue kit, there are still rules/limits to that. Get in, finish your training, once you get to a unit and some time in see what other people have an go from there.
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2017, 19:23:41 »
I do plan to pay for my own gear and specialized equipment

Canadian Army Prohibits Purchase of Commercial Kit 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,94626.75.html
4 pages.

Policy on Personal Combat Gear?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,1411.0/nowap.html
2 pages.

"no non-issue kit over seas!" 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=33365.75
80 pages.

etc...

« Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 19:27:21 by mariomike »
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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2017, 19:42:38 »
Millbrook tactical just opened up shop in Petawawa. You can sink some paychecks into their factory seconds arc'teryx kit while simultaneously buying some pistol, carbine and defensive driving packages.  If you unlock enough skill points in in the infantry character tree you can progress to the Patrol Path Finder (PPF) course. One of their modes of operation is to use the wing-suits you're talking about and jump from high up buildings, balloons or even out of the backs of aircraft to air-assault on to their objectives (think ODST). I'm not sure if you'll be able to get a waiver for the X95 you're buying as there isn't a lot of bullpup love yet in the forces. (just some chicken love, depending on where you go).

Ha, I realize you are just poking fun at what I sound like, but honestly, I'm not joking, I already live a harder life than any average person could handle, by choice.

Also, from my research the CAF and IDF worked together to co-create a CAF version of the Tavor because of its dependability and versatility, which is why I've chosen that rifle... after all, the Rifelman's Creed "This is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine... etc."

Canadian Army Prohibits Purchase of Commercial Kit 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,94626.75.html
4 pages.

Policy on Personal Combat Gear?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,1411.0/nowap.html
2 pages.

"no non-issue kit over seas!" 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=33365.75
80 pages.

etc...



Thank you for more clarification, I've already read through more than half of your recommended links and it has helped me decide more accurately what I would like to apply for, though, still quite a bit of research and suggestions are necessary before I make the life-long commitment I am looking to make my joining the military.
I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2017, 19:47:39 »


    Added questions after reading and researching other posts that were not clearly outlined in the original post/thread:

    • Because I have no set residence and just travel and live where I want to (not quite a "homeless person" but still have no mailing address or place of residence) will that make it more difficult for enrollment? I live and work wherever I want to and live a free life, not being held down by conventional living standards and am a very clean well kept individual. (You wouldn't guess that I was actually homeless unless you asked me.)
    • Where should I apply to if I live in this type of situation? I am going to join the regular forces and do everything full-time and live on base for the duration of training before deployment. (If at all possible)
    • There are many choices of trades to take within the military and I am still unsure what would best suit my abilities and keep me challenged. When I was 19 I went to a recruiting office in Winnipeg and the recruitment officer was looking to get me into logistics... I'm not going to work as a warehouse person. (I honestly don't care about the paycheck, what I care about is the skills and experience I gain and what the military needs from me.)
    • When I join, I would like to do full-time training with very little respite between, am I forced to wait for specific dates for certain areas? Or could I simply travel to a new training site and continue training?
    • From the answers given Navy is a great way to travel and as mentioned, that's if you are LUCKY, though I'm not interesting in only port cities and want to focus on humanitarian missions for the most part. Because of all my current skills I feel I would be an asset to crews helping to rebuild or stabilize countries currently experiencing hardships such as Yemen, Syria, Sudan, etc.


    I will most likely add to this list and edit (strikeout) it as answers are given.

    I hope this is not too much for people to handle, or maybe it is just enough, in any case, if anyone has questions, feel free to ask, I'm an open book.

    Thanks everyone for taking your time to read all of this and for taking your time to reply.

    I look forward to potentially becoming a part of the family and can't wait to gain the skills and experience I am looking for!

    Will Flett



    PS: After researching, I do not think reserves would suit my situation because I travel wherever I want to and if I would stay at any one location, it would be for short-term unless there is a substantial reasoning behind it.

    Because of this I've decided to join the Regular Forces, before anything is said, I can accomplish anything, period. I have the willpower and drive to push through anything I need or want to... This is my reasoning for traveling and not needing to live a conventional life.[/list]

    Unless you are willing to change your life style and accept you won't be able to do anything you want at anytime the military isn't for you. Your nomadic life style may cause some road bumps in recruiting. As well, in the military you will not be busy every day, training non stop.  There will be times where nothing is happening. Also, may not get any deployments depending on how long you are in for. As well, they may be combat orientated and you won't go in a humanitarian mission, etc.

    If you wish to help rebuild war ravaged countries, look into other organizations that are actually focused on that.
    « Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 19:50:59 by LightFighter »

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    Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
    « Reply #17 on: August 04, 2017, 19:58:49 »
    WFlett, regarding deployment,

    Possibility of deployment 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=124754.0

    Can someone throw me a friggin deployment????!!! 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=103498.0

    Chances of Deployment ?
    https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105273.0

    Deployment probabilities 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104102.0
    2 pages

    Curious about deployment rates if anyone can help?
    https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121073.0

    Voluntary Deployment??? 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=98932.0

    Wanna join, but what if I don't wanna deploy? (merged)
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,89177.0/nowap.html
    4 pages

    Reserves and Deployment 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=102409.0
    2 pages.

    Deployment Tempo 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,39949.0/nowap.html
    2 pages.

    TOURS AS NCM INF PRIVATE
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=122685.0

    Deployment length?
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=110691.0

    Deployment duration
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=36345.0
    2 pages.

    Timeframe before deployment for infantry res
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,110399.0/nowap.html

    BMQ to Deployment Timeline 
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=87928.0

    Deployment
    https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104765.0

    etc...

    See also,

    Operations update
    "The Canadian Armed Forces operations monthly public affairs narrative is designed to give an up-to-date overview of ongoing Canadian Armed Forces missions in Canada, North America and around the world."
    http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations/update.page
    Date modified: 2017-08-04

    Because I have no set residence and just travel and live where I want to (not quite a "homeless person" but still have no mailing address or place of residence) will that make it more difficult for enrollment?

    You can ask questions regarding your application here,

    General Questions regarding your application [MERGED]
    http://navy.ca/forums/index.php/topic,107882.0.html
    34 pages.


    « Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 20:12:45 by mariomike »
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    Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
    « Reply #18 on: August 04, 2017, 20:12:31 »
      Unless you are willing to change your life style and accept you won't be able to do anything you want at anytime the military isn't for you. Your nomadic life style may cause some road bumps in recruiting. As well, in the military you will not be busy every day, training non stop.  There will be times where nothing is happening. Also, may not get any deployments depending on how long you are in for. As well, they may be combat orientated and you won't go in a humanitarian mission, etc.

      If you wish to help rebuild war ravaged countries, look into other organizations that are actually focused on that.
    As mentioned, yes, I am willing to change my life style if there is an acceptable reasoning behind it that offers me the ability to gain more experience and skills. As well, I do look forward to making the forces a life-long commitment, but to do so, I need to make a conscientious decision about it. I'm not like most of the high-school kids or younger adults who are looking at joining the military on a whim (though I can not speak for them personally from what I've been reading). This is something I feel I could make a difference with, where my hard work will actually pay off. Too many times have I worked better and harder than my coworkers only to find myself with more responsibilities and less pay or recognition than people who simply have worked there for a longer time.

    Also, from what I understand the Canadian Military focuses on humanitarian aid or supporting other military organizations... Also from the threads posted by mariomike, many people mentioned that they were doing humanitarian aid while traveling, not specifically being posted as a humanitarian officer, but simply pitching in with the local communities as they traveled.

    Eventually, if/when I am forced to take time off or between deployments, I will be joining those humanitarian organizations, my skills in the military will prove a life-long asset for being a part of those kinds of operations, either as security or humanitarian aid.[/list]
    I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

    Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

    My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
    My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
    My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

    I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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    « Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 20:17:17 »
    Also, from what I understand the Canadian Military focuses on humanitarian aid or supporting other military organizations...

    Chances of going overseas for Peacekeeping/Humanitarian Missions?
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=122872.0

    The Canadian Peacekeeping Myth (Merged Topics)
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=29913.0
    12 pages.

    Military Ill-prepared for Peacekeeping - G&M
    http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121925.0
    2 pages.

    etc...
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    Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
    « Reply #20 on: August 04, 2017, 20:24:44 »
      As mentioned, yes, I am willing to change my life style if there is an acceptable reasoning behind it that offers me the ability to gain more experience and skills. As well, I do look forward to making the forces a life-long commitment, but to do so, I need to make a conscientious decision about it. I'm not like most of the high-school kids or younger adults who are looking at joining the military on a whim (though I can not speak for them personally from what I've been reading). This is something I feel I could make a difference with, where my hard work will actually pay off. Too many times have I worked better and harder than my coworkers only to find myself with more responsibilities and less pay or recognition than people who simply have worked there for a longer time.

      You may work harder than others, and you still may feel "screwed" over, etc in the Military. Also, you will make less money than people with more time in, regardless if you believe they are doing less work.

      Yes, if you put your time in and get the required courses to advance in rank you will advance, but starting as a fresh private will take some time to get to that level. 


      Also, from what I understand the Canadian Military focuses on humanitarian aid or supporting other military organizations... Also from the threads posted by mariomike, many people mentioned that they were doing humanitarian aid while traveling, not specifically being posted as a humanitarian officer, but simply pitching in with the local communities as they traveled.

      The military is not focused on humanitarian work. I've been deployed twice, not once have I done humanitarian work like rebuilding a community, or helping locals outside of assisting with the security of the area and being in a patrol where toys and candy was passed to some local kids.  Not have I ever been on any training focused on humanitarian work.

      The DART does conduct humanitarian type rebuilding work, etc when deployed. You may never be tasked to this organization however when they deploy.  This will also depend on where you are posted and your trade.

      Eventually, if/when I am forced to take time off or between deployments, I will be joining those humanitarian organizations, my skills in the military will prove a life-long asset for being a part of those kinds of operations, either as security or humanitarian aid.[/list]

      What if you won't be allowed to join those organizations while in, as well you may also not be authorized to travel to the countries you wish to help out.









       
      « Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 20:28:44 by LightFighter »

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      Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
      « Reply #21 on: August 04, 2017, 20:33:02 »
      Chances of going overseas for Peacekeeping/Humanitarian Missions?
      http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=122872.0

      The Canadian Peacekeeping Myth (Merged Topics)
      http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=29913.0
      12 pages.

      Military Ill-prepared for Peacekeeping - G&M
      http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121925.0
      2 pages.

      etc...

      Thank you so very much mariomike, you've helped out so much, I have no way to express it other than a couple good old emoji'  :salute: :cdnsalute:

      So far I've read through everything up to the CSOR or CANSOFCOM and am working my way through the banter of the thread picking out the real information needed or pertaining to my question(s) and interests.

      I'm interesting in the next section, researching about your gear/equipment available, all in due time...

      Admittedly, I've refined a lot of my questions after reading those threads and will be constantly doing so the more I read, no doubt.

      Merci, Xie xie, Spacibo and thank you very much!


      You may work harder than others, and you still may feel "screwed" over, etc in the Military. Also, you will make less money than people with more time in, regardless if you believe they are doing less work.

      Yes, if you put your time in and get the required courses to advance in rank you will advance, but starting as a fresh private will take some time to get to that level. 


      The military is not focused on humanitarian work. I've been deployed twice, not once have I done humanitarian work like rebuilding a community, or helping locals outside of assisting with the security of the area and being in a patrol where toys and candy was passed to some local kids.  Not have I ever been on any training focused on humanitarian work.

      The DART does conduct humanitarian type rebuilding work, etc when deployed. You may never be tasked to this organization however when they deploy.  This will also depend on where you are posted and your trade.

      What if you won't be allowed to join those organizations while in, as well you may also not be authorized to travel to the countries you wish to help out.

      Sorry I completely missed your reply and thank you for your hands on experience and clarification.

      I'm sure that the feeling of being "screwed over" happens anywhere, but at least I would be accomplishing a life-goal and gaining experience anyways. When not doing piece work or working on commission, I've worked many different jobs in various fields, as you could tell by my original post, those didn't give me any more skills but allowed me to hone my leadership skills and experience, as mentioned, I would always be put into a leadership and training role... often within months or even weeks of starting a new job.

      How do you know whether or not you are or would be authorized to travel? Are you given orders not to leave province or country at all while in the regular forces?

      This is fine, as long as I am allowed to receive other training, out of my own pocket of course, or at the very least be involved with extra curricular studies, training or activities on base. Even squad/unit training or building exercises.

      I will most likely be reading about the intricacies of deployment once I get to the threads posted by mariomike, but your own knowledge and experience is extremely helpful and I appreciate you keeping up to date with my thread and offering your own expertise and experience.
      « Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 21:09:14 by WFlett »
      I've never owned any fire-arms and have only shot a basic .22 rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun.

      Based on my research, when I purchase any fire-arms, they would be:

      My dream rifle: IWI - Tavor or X-95 (have to use myself)
      My dream pistol: Sig Sauer - P226 MK25
      My dream shotgun: Kel-Tek - KSG

      I like my bull-pups. Can't wait to see each in action.

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      Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
      « Reply #22 on: August 04, 2017, 21:33:07 »
      I'm sure that the feeling of being "screwed over" happens anywhere, but at least I would be accomplishing a life-goal and gaining experience anyways. When not doing piece work or working on commission, I've worked many different jobs in various fields, as you could tell by my original post, those didn't give me any more skills but allowed me to hone my leadership skills and experience, as mentioned, I would always be put into a leadership and training role... often within months or even weeks of starting a new job

      I'm sure you can use some of those qualities in the Militay, but I hope you aren't expecting to be placed quickly into a leadership role in the Military if you join as a NCM.

      How do you know whether or not you are or would be authorized to travel? Are you given orders not to leave province or country at all while in the regular forces?

      Before you can go on leave, you will submit a leave pass that has to be approved, on the leave pass you say where you will be during that period.  As well, there is a phone number you are supposed to call when you plan on travelling abroad, as well they will give you information relevant to the countries you wish to visit, etc.  Also, a leave pass will be required anytime you will be leaving the geographical area for weekend travel.

      Also, if the Canadians government travel website says travel to a certain country should be avoided, chances are you won't be authorized to go there.
      https://travel.gc.ca/travelling/advisories

      This is fine, as long as I am allowed to receive other training, out of my own pocket of course, or at the very least be involved with extra curricular studies, training or activities on base. Even squad/unit training or building exercises.

      You can take civilian courses on your off time, provided they won't interfere with work. Keep in mind if you get injured doing flying suit or BASE jumping over the weekend, they may not be thrilled especially if the injury prevents you from going on course or exercise. The base may have clubs you can join that offer certain activities. You can join clubs off base, as well as do schooling online, etc.

      In the Infantry your leadership may run low level training for the platoon when nothing is going on during the day(working hours).
      « Last Edit: August 04, 2017, 21:41:00 by LightFighter »

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      Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
      « Reply #23 on: August 04, 2017, 21:37:03 »
      I just have to say, with your self described levels of awesome in all facets of human existence, I would recommend direct entry as a Top Gun SERE instructor.
      Apparently, a "USUAL SUSPECT"

      “In peace there's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility; but when the blast of war blows in our ears, then imitate the action of the tiger; stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood, disguise fair nature with hard-favor'd rage.”

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      Re: My personal skills; with various questions - Where to start?
      « Reply #24 on: August 04, 2017, 21:41:59 »
      Millbrook tactical just opened up shop in Petawawa. You can sink some paychecks into their factory seconds arc'teryx kit while simultaneously buying some pistol, carbine and defensive driving packages.

      Conveniently right next to the payday loan place once your CANEX plan is full and credit cards are maxed.