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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2017, 19:11:04 »
In 10 years time no one will care and i'll be long retired (I hope)

Possible that’s the attitude of the OA team and every other chief driving this down people’s throats?  :nod:

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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2017, 19:17:19 »
Possible that’s the attitude of the OA team and every other chief driving this down people’s throats?  :nod:


Also keep in mind if we had less of the senior folks complaining that the sky is falling and giving it a fair chance more people would be staying.
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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2017, 19:27:33 »

Also keep in mind if we had less of the senior folks complaining that the sky is falling and giving it a fair chance more people would be staying.

At this point a Junior HT is on RAT. Learning HT systems and on his off time working on a roundsman package.
A junior stokers only job is a roundsman package.

How can senior personnel look them in the eye and say this is fair and I agree with this?

Like I said ground level on a new platform it will make sense. It’s been a disaster on a CPF.

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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2017, 19:32:48 »
At this point a Junior HT is on RAT. Learning HT systems and on his off time working on a roundsman package.
A junior stokers only job is a roundsman package.

How can senior personnel look them in the eye and say this is fair and I agree with this?

Like I said ground level on a new platform it will make sense. It’s been a disaster on a CPF.

So are ET's and stokers will have to learn hull systems through delta training. Its in the best interest of all concerned to get their OJPR done and move on.
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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2017, 19:50:45 »

Also keep in mind if we had less of the senior folks complaining that the sky is falling and giving it a fair chance more people would be staying.

If there was nothing to complain about, nobody would be bitching.  But there is.  We think we got raped in the shower and sold down the river, its a crap deal unless you're a Stoker.  Then it's just a bad deal as they're coming out best of all.  The junior rates are smart enough to see through the bullshit without any assistance from higher.  They're voting with their feet and l don't blame them at all.

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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2017, 20:08:07 »
If there was nothing to complain about, nobody would be bitching.  But there is.  We think we got raped in the shower and sold down the river, its a crap deal unless you're a Stoker.  Then it's just a bad deal as they're coming out best of all.  The junior rates are smart enough to see through the bullshit without any assistance from higher.  They're voting with their feet and l don't blame them at all.

I see where you're coming from I really do. There's OT transfer and finally release for those who wants to move on to greener pastures. At the end of the day ships will still sail.
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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2017, 20:13:55 »
I see where you're coming from I really do. There's OT transfer and finally release for those who wants to move on to greener pastures. At the end of the day ships will still sail.

God help them.

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Re: MARTECH implementation issues
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Marine Technician questions
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2018, 21:15:57 »
Hey everyone. I'm currently serving as a combat engineer in the army, but I'm looking at putting in an OT for Marine Technician. I'd love to pick the brains of some mar techs and ask a few questions. I know the BPSO is a good place for info, but I'd rather ask people who are in the trade and knowledgeable about it. I went to a BPSO open house a few months ago here in Gagetown, but I honestly didn't find the officer overly informative. He was Navy (not mar tech) so I figured he would know lots. Unfortunately, that wasn't really the case. Nobody can know everything, of course. I have a pile of questions about the trade and I figured who better to ask than members of trade and those who work alongside them on the ships! So, without further ado.....

How long does your initial training take? The forces site just says "several months."

I understand that mar tech is an amalgamation of a bunch of previous trades. Does your initial training cover the basics of all the old legacy trades (mar eng, hull, electrical, etc).? Afterwards, do you move on to specialize in an OSS, based on one of the old legacy trades? How does this work and at what point do you begin to receive spec pay?

I hold a current combat diver qualification with the engineers. I'm told that having that qual will make me basically a write off for ships team diver. Can anyone confirm if this is true? Obviously there would need to be some cross training in order to get me up to par with the unique things that they do, but I'm told that I wouldn't have to do the actual dive course. I love diving and that's something I'd like to continue doing if I move on to the Navy. Also, would I still keep the same level of dive pay? I'm currently level 2 and will be level 3 in January. Would I keep this or have to start back at level 1? I'm also curious about sea pay. I currently receive level 2 land duty allowance and I'm well on my way to level 3. Would I receive the same level of sea pay once I'm qualified in my trade and posted to a ship?

I'd like to know a little more about boarding parties as well. I'm told that they like ex-combat arms guys, for obvious reasons. I'm also told it's harder to get on a boarding party with certain trades. Is it common or even possible for marine techs to be on boarding parties?

I only have a GED, which doesn't make the cut for this trade. I'm finishing up an academic grade 10 math course right now in order to rectify that. I'll be done long before the VOT process opens up in July. Still, that only puts me at the minimum education requirements. If I have time, I'm going to try to complete a physics course as well, which is considered and asset. Is the trade in high demand and will these credentials put me in a good, competitive position where I can reasonably expect to be accepted? 

Last but not least, can someone who has OT'd before and relocated tell me a bit about how that works? I'm currently single and living in a PMQ. Would I be able to retain my PMQ while I'm away in Esquimalt, or do they expect you to vacate? I'd be happy to be posted to either Esquimalt or Halifax, but I'd prefer Halifax. Is it difficult to get a posting preference usually?

I apologize for the bombardment of questions and thank any in advance who can provide some insight. If anything I'm asking is not fit to be discussed on a public forum, please disregard and feel free to inbox me.

Thanks!





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Re: Marine Technician questions
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2018, 21:34:02 »
I'd like to know a little more about boarding parties as well.

All Things Naval Boarding Party (training, badges, etc. - merged)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16991.175.html

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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2018, 22:18:28 »
That is a crap load of questions.  I'll PM you, feet first.

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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2018, 12:43:51 »
That is a crap load of questions.  I'll PM you, feet first.
Hey jolly, I'm hoping you could post some of the answers in here. I have primarily the same questions and would like to know the answers to them.
Thanks.

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Mar Tech red seal post service
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2018, 13:09:42 »
I have heard rumours that MarTech won't be a trade that ex service members will be able to challenge a red seal after their service. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2018, 13:19:49 »
That is true.

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Re: Mar Tech red seal post service
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2018, 13:23:15 »
I have heard rumours that MarTech won't be a trade that ex service members will be able to challenge a red seal after their service. Can anyone confirm this?

Like anything credit will be given towards the civilian qualification. Equivalencies still need to be worked out.
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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2018, 14:19:30 »
https://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/sources/pdfs/forms/military_trades.pdf

The old Marine Engineering Technician QL5 used to qualify for your Millwright and Machinist Red
Seal tickets. Would be disappointing to see this lost...

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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2018, 14:19:51 »
With the watering down of training standards that is coming, that will be worth less as legacy tradesmen depart and new MarTech become the norm.

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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2018, 15:11:57 »
https://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/sources/pdfs/forms/military_trades.pdf

The old Marine Engineering Technician QL5 used to qualify for your Millwright and Machinist Red
Seal tickets. Would be disappointing to see this lost...

For the time being the QL5 is still going on until the new coursing is in place. It is possible that a direct equivalency won't be possible although the intent is to move towards DOT standards in relation to Marine Engineering tickets.
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Re: Marine Technician ( MARTECH )
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2018, 01:44:24 »
I am currently a 4th year steel fabricator applying for martech i failed to pass my inter-provincial exam to receive my red seal does anyone know if this will affect my application. i also have lots of experience in welding and as a millwright.