Author Topic: Chariots on Fire by Maj Cole Petersen  (Read 27123 times)

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Re: Chariots on Fire by Maj Cole Petersen
« Reply #125 on: September 24, 2018, 11:38:12 »
true, but for the next 25 years you can assume the majority will be.

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Re: Chariots on Fire by Maj Cole Petersen
« Reply #126 on: September 24, 2018, 12:18:35 »
Manned ATGM positions are not a given, even now.

The NLOS containerised system was cancelled by the US


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XM501_Non-Line-of-Sight_Launch_System

But is well on its way to being perfected by the Israelis with their Spike NLOS system



The remote launch missile system is also well developed for NASAMs with their dispersed Multiple Missile Launchers for Air Defence.



And the US is proceeding with their own MML systems



15 assorted missiles in a box that could be dropped anywhere in the battlefield.

Take the 25 km range of the Spike NLOS and add that to a 20 km range precision guided mortar launched from a vehicle mounted automated turret an I suggest that the rules of the game might be changing a bit faster that 25 years.

If the FOO accompanying your company can call up missiles from unmanned caches and precision stonks from mortars without exposing themselves, or your position, then it makes it harder for the enemy to find anything to neutralize or attack.
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Re: Chariots on Fire by Maj Cole Petersen
« Reply #127 on: September 24, 2018, 12:27:29 »
The majority of the systems used in the latest conflicts are basically 25 year old+ systems that have been evolutionary upgraded. Canada is just re-introducing those systems, we behind even Hezbollah in that regard. It's highly unlikely that even if the unmanned ATGM's go into production, they will be exported. So only a threat for peer to peer and then they would be in short supply. A near peer fight is likely against experienced crews firing wire guided ATGM.   

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Re: Chariots on Fire by Maj Cole Petersen
« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2018, 12:47:06 »
I think you'd be surprised what a few good engineers can do with some $$$ and operator input.

However, the point I'm trying to drive home is that we need to be more careful in the assumptions we make.