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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #125 on: October 16, 2009, 21:47:44 »
Try doing the chin up exercise I suggested. You'll be impressed and amazed at yourself in a few months.

I'm sure he has chinups and military fitness covered.

You on the other hand....not so much.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #126 on: October 16, 2009, 23:47:51 »
I'm sure he has chinups and military fitness covered.

You on the other hand....not so much.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #127 on: October 16, 2009, 23:55:00 »
Please, do not troll the forums especially in information threads.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #128 on: October 17, 2009, 00:38:37 »
Try doing the chin up exercise I suggested. You'll be impressed and amazed at yourself in a few months.

I've done THOUSANDS of chin ups and pull ups in my life; nevertheless, my grip scores do not reflect my abilities on a bar...


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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #129 on: October 17, 2009, 01:17:37 »
Okay, thanks to the two(2) people who responded to my question. One more and I'll start drawing graphs and finding correlations >:D Everyone else: sorry for mentioning the chinups!

Redeem yourself Dean22, before they make you armwrestle an admin, what did you score on the dynamometer and what can you deadlift/platepinch?

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #130 on: October 17, 2009, 09:30:43 »
I have YET [ in over 30 years of being a gym rat] to see anyone fail to do chin ups because of their grip.....

And on the opposite side of the fence, I've never failed a grip test, but I can't do a chin up to save my life.   ;D
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #131 on: October 17, 2009, 10:49:07 »
Don't,
I have YET [ in over 30 years of being a gym rat] to see anyone fail to do chin ups because of their grip.....

Right, but most people fail to do enough chinup reps in a set to cause enough stimulus for growth because of the one weak link in the chain of muscles that are being utilized - for most that is the forearm/hands. In other words, the smaller and weaker "gripping" muscles usually fail well before the biceps, pecs, delts and lats. Thus, as you very well know, many use wrist straps or wrist hooks when doing chinups, pulldowns, rows or deadlifts - to ensure the targeted muscle groups get enough stimulus.
If someone can do enough reps to reach failure of the main musclegroups without using wrist straps, good on them - but likely very rare.
As for recommendations to increase grip strength - not rocket surgery - any exercise where the hand is opened and closed in reps. Suggestions: purpose-built grip strength device with small weights on bottom and handles for palm and fingers (much like the actual testing device)(I have seen one in NDHQ); wrist curls with a barbell allowing the bar to roll to the fingertips and back to closed grip; kettlebell wrist curls same as with barbell on bench or standing up with bell moving up and down opening and closing the hand (close approximation of the test, minus the 45 degree angle).
As the test looks for 2 RM (repetition maximum), one suggestion is to try to lift heavy and few reps (4-6 max).
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #132 on: October 17, 2009, 11:02:13 »
Okay, thanks to the two(2) people who responded to my question. One more and I'll start drawing graphs and finding correlations >:D Everyone else: sorry for mentioning the chinups!

Redeem yourself Dean22, before they make you armwrestle an admin, what did you score on the dynamometer and what can you deadlift/platepinch?

After talking to the person I know I recognized that chin ups cannot work for small/light people for grip very well unless you can go to failure.

What I posted were techniques to go to failure easily especially for those struggling with their fitness and who are heavier.

My grip sucked horribly before I started training so I can't tell you what it was before but I do know it improved a lot.

On the hand dynamometer I held it wrong (I had my thumb on the top instead of the thumb/forefinger arch) but I had scored 50kg per hand. For dead lifts the most I have ever done was 300 but I believe that can be mostly attributed to my leg power. 

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #133 on: October 18, 2009, 22:00:14 »
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don't stress, just think about how often use you use your hands. it's pretty hard not to fail.
I think you got that backwards  :P
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #134 on: October 21, 2009, 01:28:57 »
Here ya go:

http://www.ultimategripstrength.com/gripequipment/equipment.php

There are also heaps of devices other than these.  One of the guys I work with has a hand held grip strengthener (looks like the old school stud makers that douche bags used to keep in their glove boxes of their IROC-Z's  ;D but made from stainless steel) that takes 250 lbs to touch the ends together.  It is bananas hard.  But if you were to rail away at it every day, your hands would get strong. 
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2009, 17:22:11 »
My advice would be: GO CLIMB A ROCK!

This is by far the easiest, fastest and most fun way to build grip strength (along with uper body, balance and leg strength).

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2009, 10:40:30 »
Gotta agree with marlborough:
GO CLIMB A ROCK!

This is by far the easiest, fastest and most fun way to build grip strength (along with uper body, balance and leg strength).

... but don't forget the unparalleled core workout that comes with all sorts of rock climbing!  For hand grip; I cut up a couple sections of 2x2 and nailed them to the joists in my basement ceiling from which to do forearm chinups.  The beauty of this is that there is only 1.5" of grip space along the top, so it's all fingers- what better way to build hand grip and forearm strength?!
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #137 on: January 06, 2010, 06:39:19 »
If you deadlift, use a double overhand grip for as long as you can (until it fails you) before switching to hook or mixed grips. Also, on your last rep, do a static hold at lockout. Static holding a few hundred pounds will do wonders for your grip strength.

You can also do farmer's walks with heavy dumbbells. Try to best your previous weight and/or distance every time.

Also, I haven't read through all the pages, but in the couple I did read, I didn't see the CoC (Captains of Crush) grippers mentioned anywhere.

They're basically the gold standard in grip strength and the training of it.

They ran thege from lowest, the CoC "Guide" (60 lbs), up to the CoC No. 4 (365 lbs).

They certify people for closing the higher ones and only five people have been certified on the No. 4 since 1998, one being a former World's Strongest man winner, Magnus Samuelsson.

Anyway, just another couple suggestions to throw out there.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #138 on: January 11, 2010, 02:20:49 »
Heh.  Around these parts, CoC has quite a different meaning.  However, the devices you are talking about frequently would have quite a bit more "grip" than what we are used to.   ;)
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« Reply #139 on: January 11, 2010, 05:25:40 »
Yeah I saw that in another part of the forum after I posted. What's the military meaning?

I think the lower poundage CoCs could be beneficial, but I have no actual experience with them. I think they would carry over to the specific testing done, because they are essentially testing the same thing.

From what I do know of them, I'd just put the 2.5-4 in the just bragging rights, "look I did this" category.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #140 on: January 11, 2010, 23:58:21 »
In the military, CoC stands for Chain of Command.  I think my buddy has one of the ones you are talking about at around 250 lbs.  A few weeks with that and you could crush coconuts!
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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #141 on: January 12, 2010, 06:49:05 »
After talking to the person I know I recognized that chin ups cannot work for small/light people for grip very well unless you can go to failure.

What I posted were techniques to go to failure easily especially for those struggling with their fitness and who are heavier.

My grip sucked horribly before I started training so I can't tell you what it was before but I do know it improved a lot.

On the hand dynamometer I held it wrong (I had my thumb on the top instead of the thumb/forefinger arch) but I had scored 50kg per hand. For dead lifts the most I have ever done was 300 but I believe that can be mostly attributed to my leg power.

For chin ups, if your body weight isn't enough, you can add weight via a belt + chain to hang plates or put plates in a back pack.

I definitely find chin ups work my grip.

Also, if you never use straps for DLs and do them every week, your grip will get good, fast. A lot of people think they're grips are failing, when really, they just need to chalk up and they'd be good for a few more pounds/reps.

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Re: The Grip Strength Superthread- Read Here First
« Reply #142 on: January 12, 2010, 06:57:15 »
In the military, CoC stands for Chain of Command.  I think my buddy has one of the ones you are talking about at around 250 lbs.  A few weeks with that and you could crush coconuts!

Ahh, thanks. So many acronyms on here.

And yeah, the CoCs are the gold standard for grip strength.

You can also pinch plates and stuff, as well.

There's really limitless possibilities when it comes to working your grip.