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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2004, 17:55:02 »
were all gonna get there, August will be a magical month but september will bethe month business will be taken care of. trust me. all the info i have lead to that and my recruiting centre seems VERY organized and VERY informative with dates and such. so wait it out, more time to improve yourself and get ready for the big test.  :army:

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« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2004, 23:09:18 »
Sorry man, I didn't mean to imply "one" position....My mistake....

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« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2004, 21:46:10 »
Sorry I didn't have time before to expand upon what I meant....

I was informed that they were waiting enough applicants to the 291 before they would send all of those chosen (I guess after choosing from the merit list)  to BMQ in St. Jean.  I don't know how often this opening comes about but I do not think it is as frequent as some other MOC trades....They simply gave me a rough timeline of the "3rd quarter" of 2004 which means sometime in the fall when they would like to put those applying to the 291 through the BMQ and SQ together.
This Friday I get half a day off work and I would like to visit the recruiting centre to see if there is any more recent  information they can give me about when we would be getting a phone call....

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« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2004, 09:08:25 »
 :cdn: I would like to comment on the post by tracker in the reply to cath Taylor.
you mention Military potential. I am an X Member Of the RCR with a a couple of Tours under my belt.I went to renllist to Material Tech I am a certified Machinist And  a Ceritfied millwright. i wanted semi skilled and the add from the CF clearly states that you only need some of the MOC to qualify for this entry plan. However some retired warrant officer who has all the say in Borden said That since I didn't have autobody I could not obtain semi skilled status but that I was a strong candiate.

So don't give your excuses Tracker you sound like the rest of the recruiters.

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Re: merit list
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2004, 10:52:48 »
What does the merit list have to do with this?   Complain is PM's or in the thread you are talking about plz.
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« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2004, 12:39:19 »
ruksak what the hell do your post have to do with the topic?
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Re: merit list
« Reply #56 on: August 04, 2004, 17:40:43 »
I completed my Medical and Interview about a month ago and the recruiting officer said I would be placed on the merrit list around the begining of Augest. I still havn't recieved a call on my status yet (maybe I should give them a call to see where my file is  ???). I'm going for Reg Force Infantry...
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Re: merit list
« Reply #57 on: August 04, 2004, 21:15:02 »
rucksac

I am not sure what your comment has to do with the topic you chose to post it under.  Anyway, being considered "skilled" or "semi-skilled" is only a small portion of determining your military potential, as is previous service and "a couple of tours under your belt."

Did the add you are referring to specify what areas of the MOC you needed? 

If the "retired warrant officer who has all the say in Borden" says you are not semi-skilled, then you are not semi-skilled.  We probably have enough machinists and millwrights but are short in the auto body area.

At the risk of sounding "like the rest of the recruiters," have you considered the Navy?

I didn't think I was giving excuses, just telling it like it is, if the rest of you in this forum think I'm making excuses, let me know and I'll keep my comments to myself.
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« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2004, 07:33:14 »
OK maybe I made a mistake of posting under the wrong heading I should have commented directly to you Tracker. Now having said that, You and I both know the Armed forces will try and channel people to areas where there is a void. not necessarily where the person wants to go or is best suited to. if you look at the trade Mat Tech 441 on the Recruiting site you Will see the requirements. i was referring to the the semi skilled entry plan where it states that one would only need some or part of the MOC.

I doubt the CF has enough Machinist and Millwrights, I Know of people who spent 10 years in and had to write for their ticket after they left the Forces.

As far as all the entrance requirements to the Armed Forces I aced them all, PT.Interview.Aptitude etc: Sorry about the comment about excuses I guess I was just a bit frustrated. :salute:

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« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2004, 14:58:23 »
Well I got my offer yesterday for MOC 291.  I'm extremely happy about the offer especially since  I've been accepted in MOC 291.  The only problem, is since yesterday I've been having this extreme separation anxiety ------ and I haven't even left yet!!!!!   Is this normal?   I'm happy that I got what I wanted but at the same time I can barely cope with the thought of leaving my family and friends.  Sure would like to know if this feeling is only temporary as I sure hope it is.

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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2004, 20:11:05 »
rucksac

In the recruiting centre that I work at, we do not channel people into areas where there is a void.  We have a list of all the occupations in the CF and their hiring status, anyone who has been in CFRC Toronto looking into the Regular Force can tell you about it.  This list indicates the jobs that are hiring for unskilled, skilled, semi-skilled or closed.  The choice is then yours, you channel yourself either into an occupation that is looking for troops now, or take your chances on one that is closed and hope that it opens up soon. 

I tried to look at the semi-skilled requirments for 441 today but it kept giving me an error message so I can't address that one.  I do know however, that the Career Manager for each occupation determines what is to be considered skilled or semi-skilled, not a website that might be out of date.

"I doubt the CF has enough Machinist and Millwrights,"  How do you know?  From the 16 years I spent in Infantry Battalions, I never once saw a Mat Tech using a milling machine, I saw lots of them using a weilder and a sewing machine. 

"I Know of people who spent 10 years in and had to write for their ticket after they left the Forces."???  I don't get this one.

You can Ace every part of the selection and still not merit a job offer.  I can understand your frustration, I might not be in your situation, but I deal everyday with people who are.  Don't be sorry, you did nothing more than vent, better here than in a CFRC somwhere.  Good luck, I hope things work out for you.
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« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2004, 20:41:11 »
Contrats on your good news!!!!!
Did they give you a date when you will be leaving?  I still have to visit my recruiting office to talk with my case manager to see if I'm going or not..... ???

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« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2004, 20:42:26 »
Congrats on the good news looking2enlist!!!!
Did they give you a definite date when you will be leaving to St. Jean?

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« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2004, 22:01:36 »
Trav if they told you their is no such thing as a Merit list, they are pulling you chain.
Start calling your recruitment office every week to two week's and asking questions.

And yes i know how you feel when you say you always get a different answer,
I went through all the Malarcgy for 13 months before i got my offer, the wait was worth it.

their is a serious serious flaw in our recruitment system, No one ever seems to know whats going on, infact the day before i got my offer i was in the CFRC barrie and asked about where i stand.

I was told, that i would not hear anything at least untill september, the next day i got my call.
that just goes to show, they really have no clue other then the higher ups that you dont ever speak to.

Make sure to tell them your concern, that you have been waiting 14 months already and any other concerns, these RO's are not getting paid to feed you false info, they are getting paid to manage your application and answer every question you have the best they can, and thats somtimes still not good enough.


good luck it will be worth it in the end.

rgr that man. you said it right.

 i initially applied for the Naval Res ( http://www.navres.dnd.ca/navres/don/Intro_e.htm )  and my interview went absolutely perfect, and the Captain gave me his full recommendation. he even told me why. but just a few days later, i decided to go for the Reg For Navy. i had my medical the next week and was issued my interview just 2 days later. i had the worst, most incompetent dragon b*tch you could imagine. it took all my patience to survive that. and if thats not bad enough, she told me i had to change my moc choices (all 3) because of a stipulation--1 day before my interview. i had been preparing for months. and to add insult to injury, the Seargants downstairs didnt even know that some criteria had been added to certain mocs 3 weeks prior. i found out a lot of info literally "on the spot" in my interview. the most gruelling 2 hrs of my life. and the day before i got advice from the worst jack-donkey...but in the end, it was worth it cause its finally over.

just waiting for my turn to be put on teh merit list also. but i cant emphasize how much sense you make with that point of the faulty communication and members not being "in the know" unless they belong to the senior brass. the system deffinately needs revision. those 2 individuals aside, the rest of the recruitment centre staff was so cool and supportive. they all know me now. and because of my enthusiasm, they gave me a Navy Poster. i was so happy. i hope no one else has bitter experiences. most recruiters are cool, but do your homework and browse the websites first. i must say stumbling onto this website really helps a lot (even though i found it at the end of my file process). lots of kind and inspirational ppl here willing to help. cant say enough good things about Army.ca.forum

thx all...Hooya :army:

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Re: merit list
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2004, 11:44:07 »
I'm not sure what exact date I leave but they  have told me either Aug 27 or Aug 31st.

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« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2004, 12:55:10 »
I had my interview June 16 and they said they would call me in a month. I called after a month and they said my file was still at Borden. I called today (9 August) and they told me I was approved for my trade (043) and I was on the merit list. I asked the very polite lady when I should expect to get the next call with the job offer, and she said "it could be tomorrow, or it could be next month, but probably by early September."

Overall, just be patient, and be polite to them and they probably wont bullshit you. Always say "Hello Missus! Sorry to bother you but I was wondering about my application status..." and "please" and "thank you very much Missus!" and they will be very polite in return...

During my interview which lasted about 15 minutes, the interviewer (a Captian) didn't even look at me, just asked me some questions and wrote some stuff down on his paper. I answered every question accurately, signed the papers he gave me, shook his hand and I was out. Like I said it seemed like I must have been the 40th person he interviewed that day, and he barely even paid attention to me. It was really easy and very quick.

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« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2004, 16:58:18 »
Finally, I had a chance to visit the recruiting centre in Hamilton to inquire about the status of my 1st MOC choice.

 A very helpful gentleman looked up on the list at the front of the desk and informed me that the CFRG had NOT yet reviewed the applicants from the various recruiting centres.  He did inform me that they would be getting together at the end of August and the actual list of those chosen would arrive 1-2 weeks for the case managers to begin calling those waiting on the merit list. 

 In addition, he told me that there is a grand total of 18 open positions for the 291 MOC -- which apparently is very high considering this particular trade....

 I also asked him about a "wost-case scenario" if I was not one of those 18 picked and he told me that when the CFRG complied all the applicant scores to make a decision for your 2nd or 3rd choice -- you have the ability to compete for those positions as well....

 Overall I am quite content with my various encounters with the men and women at the Hamilton recruiting centre -- they are quite willing and frank to answer your questions and do not simply brush you off if they do not have the answer to your question (they will actually look for the information)....I guess any frustration about waiting should not be directed to them.  Remember, there are almost in the dark as much as we are, relying on the final word of top brass and selection boards....
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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2004, 20:57:17 »
Told you august would be a magical month.

I was officially merit listed the other day and the recruiter said i am "advanced standing" and have a job offer comment but i have to wait 2 weeks for the recruiter to call me but i am getting sworn in a few days after the call. So the recruited did the whole job offer thing to speed things up.... so i just gotta wait the 2 weeks.

Did the whole process, tests, examinations, everything within a month and a half - not bad! Great Job CFRC Hamilton.

So keep your heads up boys, were leaving soon. :army:

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2004, 21:21:09 »
Trying to join the army makes me feel like a mushroom. I'm kept in the dark and fed horse ****. Either CFRC is telling me they don't know or they're telling me false information. I guess it's only gonna get worse once I'm in.  ;D

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2004, 13:52:15 »
just got back from a stress free 3 weeks of camping and im back to chewing my nails in 1/2 hr after reading mav's post ;D.
hey mav nuff respect bro.... i hope that moday will be the day they call me and tell me that i need to get ready to get sworn in. hope to get the call soon. much love to all trying to get in, keep the updates coming.
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« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2004, 00:08:35 »
my file is basically complete, i passed everything, just need a doctors note signed after i get a blood and urine test done. may take up to 1 week. 2 max. if i send in my note to the recruitment office, how are my chances of getting merit listed and making it in time for Sept 15th selection date??? :army:

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« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2004, 02:58:42 »
hey guys sorry this is partially related more selfish come to think of it but since  tracker had some valid points i was wondering if tracker wanted to hop on over to the recruiting page under header "could this be a problem as to why im not gone yet" and gimme an answer to my questions or any recruiters floating this post want to elaborate and gimme and remedies to fix this problem. thx a lot
 i was merit listed a couple months now ....waiting for the sept board to sit.

dont know if this is related but do all mocs go bmq same time or does infantry go in 1st week sept followed by sig ops etc.. or are the all mixed into 1 plt , coz if this is the case then the wait is gonna be forever( as sure they are gonna be ppl more qualified for different mocs way up on their merit list)
all ppl applying for infantry going at the same time, all ppl going for sig ops same time, all ppl applying for comms going at the same time etc..
thx a bunch for the replies
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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2004, 13:40:38 »
the med file part is what usually sets everyone back because its minimum a month but longer if u have a messed up med history, hopefully ur lucky and have never broken anything or received any strange virus - if u havent then i dont see why u need a doctors note....

the doctors note thing, as i have seen, was onlyd one for those with weird medical history's - do you have anything or have had anything that could disrupt ur chances?

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« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2004, 14:05:56 »
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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #74 on: August 16, 2004, 15:00:22 »
i feel your pain man..im hoping to get in before december or else my fit expires....dont get disheartned bro, look at it this way..it gives you a whole lot of time so that next time you have to do it you can shock and awe the pants of them ;D
keep at it and you'll be going before me ...heck every one is going before me ..lol  ;D
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