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Re: Chief of Army bans soldiers from wearing 'arrogant' death symbols
« Reply #25 on: April 20, 2018, 22:51:37 »
And I'm sure that will help fill the Infantry battalions with females.  :sarcasm:

Most of whom will have better skin art than the men......
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-19/army-bans-troops-from-wearing-skulls-death-symbols/9673242?pfmredir=sm

Good of the Aussies to self-ID as not serious about this whole "War"-thing, I'm sure the Russians, Chinese, et al will be grateful.

Oh! Did they ban the Haka, as well? Thought not.

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You're only off by about 2100 km.

The Haka is a Maori custom.

Maoris are indigenous to New Zealand.

So, no, Australia will likely not bother to ban Hakas.

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Good of the Aussies to self-ID as not serious about this whole "War"-thing, I'm sure the Russians, Chinese, et al will be grateful.

Oh! Did they ban the Haka, as well? Thought not.

Scenario question.  I have a Reserve Cpl who likes to Velcro things to his tac vest and his body armour and the arms of his combats. One is in fact a punisher symbol.  Another is the Cpl 4 life badge.  Should he be allowed to put anything he wants on his kit?  Or wear his skull bandana on ex because "call of Duty".  Honest question.

Second.  I think the Russians and Chinese could care less about badges one way or another and care more about capability.

 
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Scenario question.  I have a Reserve Cpl who likes to Velcro things to his tac vest and his body armour and the arms of his combats. One is in fact a punisher symbol.  Another is the Cpl 4 life badge.  Should he be allowed to put anything he wants on his kit?  Or wear his skull bandana on ex because "call of Duty".  Honest question.


The only badges he should be wearing are the standard issued ones (rank, nametag, Canadian Flag), and mission specific patches or IFF badges.
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Scenario question.  I have a Reserve Cpl who likes to Velcro things to his tac vest and his body armour and the arms of his combats. One is in fact a punisher symbol.  Another is the Cpl 4 life badge.  Should he be allowed to put anything he wants on his kit?  Or wear his skull bandana on ex because "call of Duty".  Honest question.

Your profile says MWO Infantry. Your last sentence is "Honest question".

Which is it?

Sorry, but you're confusing me.
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Your profile says MWO Infantry. Your last sentence is "Honest question".

Which is it?

Sorry, but you're confusing me.

Which is what?

Sorry about the confusion.  I was positing a scenario question and was soliciting honest answers to the question.  Sometimes asking a question in a certain way gives away the answer or generates discussion that leads to an answer.
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Patches are like helmet graffiti.  Disciplined units get rid of that crap.
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My suggestion is that, as a CSM or such (MWO Infantry), you have his section commander sort his *** and failing that, have him report to your office for instruction on how to wear his uniform. If he's qualified, have him reiterate the rules to the whole company. Catch him again, start him up the ladder.

Bandanas? That one is obvious.
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Bandanas?  We don't need no stinking Bandanas!!

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I've never been a fan of wasting time enforcing petty stuff like footwear or beards, but I'm not a fan of the morale patches generally.

I've seen kids who looked like they were just entering puberty with "major league infidel" patches on their crappy issued small packs...walking around the mall, or a university campus etc. If I was a bad guy, these wieners would be the first ones I'd be trying to whack or take hostage.


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I've seen kids who looked like they were just entering puberty with "major league infidel" patches on their crappy issued small packs...walking around the mall, or a university campus etc. If I was a bad guy, these wieners would be the first ones I'd be trying to whack or take hostage.

Where does one even put patches on the issued small pack? 

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Where does one even put patches on the issued small pack?

The one that really sticks out in my mind was in Ottawa. I couldn't tell if they had somehow sewn the patch on directly, or if they had added extra velcro but it was either the crappy small pack, or a very close copy, and it had been modified...

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The one that really sticks out in my mind was in Ottawa. I couldn't tell if they had somehow sewn the patch on directly, or if they had added extra velcro but it was either the crappy small pack, or a very close copy, and it had been modified...

Wait...someone *copied* the crappy small pack   ???
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I do wish l had bought as a souvenir the morale patch l saw for $5 at the Dutch PX in KAF.  It showed Achmed the dead terrorist and had the phrase "Silence! We killed him and we'll kill you".  Of course l hesitated and it sold out, never to return in my time there.

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Morale patches are fun but should never be displayed on a uniform or kit. I always liked the suckmeter though
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Morale patches are fun but should never be displayed on a uniform or kit. I always liked the suckmeter though

Keep them for Friday PM at the mess.

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Black toques are still OK? No patches on them. 
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Black toques are still OK? No patches on them.

I’m good with the black toque. Not that I can do anything about them....
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I loved the morale patches during TGIFs on air bases. I had a "JOPA" patch that I wore proudly during Maple Flags and at air shows.  Another one that comes in mind was the Sea King patch with check marks in boxes denoting decades of service and the phrase "Flying yesterday's aircraft tomorrow" on it.
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Morale patches? Pshaw.....

How about interactive RFID tags? :)
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That's a bit different then troops festooning their gear with "Haji don't Surf" or "Crusader" patches when out on patrol in Islamic countries....
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I loved the morale patches during TGIFs on air bases. I had a "JOPA" patch that I wore proudly during Maple Flags and at air shows.  Another one that comes in mind was the Sea King patch with check marks in boxes denoting decades of service and the phrase "Flying yesterday's aircraft tomorrow" on it.

JOPA?
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For more on morale patches,

Morale Patches 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105002.0
OP: "Let's discuss, in a jovial manner, morale patches."

Wearing of "team/roto" patches overseas.
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=67599.0
"I think the wearing of appropriate 'team', 'roto' or 'morale' patches is a good thing for the soldiers overseas."

Patching Afghanistan 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=82817.0
"Non-Official being Morale patches and unofficial unit patches"

"I was thinking more morale patch type things..."
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,101505.msg1162634.html#msg1162634

etc...

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JOPA?

That patch is pretty fitting for you guys these last few years...

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