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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2018, 10:13:21 »
I know for Army (CADPAT) it will be:

Left shoulder:
Canada Flag and up to 2 Specialty Badges

Right shoulder:
Divisional Patch and Brigade Patch.

Army policy that addresses CADPAT uniform wear rolls out
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2018, 10:16:19 »
Probably NAVRES BMQ? I've never seen the Ensign on CADPAT, only thought it was supposed to be on NCDs as one of the 18 things that say Navy so people don't forget.

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2018, 12:36:16 »
We recently received our manufactured DIV patches for combats. They are NOT simply the DEU div patches backed with Velcro. No, we had to go all-out for these ones...they are the dimensions of the large Canadian flag patch, but the div colour is smaller and bordered on all four sides by CADPAT. So if/when we make the switch to another camo pattern, these will all have to be turned in and new ones will have to be issued.

I haven't received one yet, so I don't have a photo of one.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2018, 12:47:14 »
Seen it here.

Looks like hot garbage.  especially the brigade patch.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2018, 12:48:38 »
We recently received our manufactured DIV patches for combats. They are NOT simply the DEU div patches backed with Velcro. No, we had to go all-out for these ones...they are the dimensions of the large Canadian flag patch, but the div colour is smaller and bordered on all four sides by CADPAT. So if/when we make the switch to another camo pattern, these will all have to be turned in and new ones will have to be issued.

I haven't received one yet, so I don't have a photo of one.

Here is a DWAN link to a document that shows the patches http://materiel.mil.ca/assets/MAT_Intranet/docs/en/joint-common-clothing-small-arms/garrison-bridage-patches.pdf
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2018, 14:02:40 »
Canex sells them, plus all the other authorized patches.

http://www.canex.ca/military/cadpat-gear/4th-cdn-division-badge.html
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2018, 14:24:13 »
$9!! No thanks.  When they want me to wear it, they'll get around to issuing it.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2018, 14:28:28 »
Why didn't they just make it without the cadpat border?
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2018, 15:05:28 »
$9!! No thanks.  When they want me to wear it, they'll get around to issuing it.
I find it disappointing that we have been able to create the opportunity for soldiers to give money to Canex faster than we were able to distribute the same product to which they are entitled at crown expense.

In other thoughts: since the Bde patches are always worn together on the same spot of Velcro, why are they not produced as one piece?  And if we are going all authentic, should members of the Div HQ not be wearing a smaller white rectangle superimposed across the centre of the coloured div rectangle?

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2018, 16:41:06 »
I find it disappointing that we have been able to create the opportunity for soldiers to give money to Canex faster than we were able to distribute the same product to which they are entitled at crown expense.

In other thoughts: since the Bde patches are always worn together on the same spot of Velcro, why are they not produced as one piece?  And if we are going all authentic, should members of the Div HQ not be wearing a smaller white rectangle superimposed across the centre of the coloured div rectangle?

And should we not also be producing and issuing white flag patches to our enemies? ;)
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2018, 16:58:11 »
Why didn't they just make it without the cadpat border?

Obviously to cash in on those who'll have to buy new patches if/when we switch patterns  :nod:
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2018, 18:09:39 »
Sadly the CA is not the only element switching patches very 5 years. From the brief we got, the RCAF is reverting back to the “only green” patches for the flight suits. The Div order should be release shortly. Here’s to another $40 of patches for the uniform.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2018, 18:25:37 »
How about the RCAF to go back to a rank style that actually has stitching that can be recognized from more than a foot away.
They are more tactical than the Army's high vis that you can read from a km out.

I'm happy to still cling on to some old style combats that don't have the velcro on the sleeves.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2018, 19:22:10 »
The Army paid untold millions to develop an effective camouflage system, then paid thousands to make a set of ranks that would be visible on that camouflage.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2018, 19:42:35 »
...which doesn't really matter because you wear body armour over that rank patch anyways.... :D
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #40 on: November 27, 2018, 19:50:07 »
Until we start wearing velcro rank on on the sleeves while in the field
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2018, 19:51:33 »
Sadly the CA is not the only element switching patches very 5 years. From the brief we got, the RCAF is reverting back to the “only green” patches for the flight suits. The Div order should be release shortly. Here’s to another $40 of patches for the uniform.

FFS, what's the reason this time?  We take them off when we go somewhere even potentially bad.  Do people not understand the point of velcro?
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2018, 19:56:32 »
FFS, what's the reason this time?  We take them off when we go somewhere even potentially bad.  Do people not understand the point of velcro?

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2018, 20:57:10 »
New Comdr and new Comd CWO...don't throw your current ones out, because in 2 years.... ;D

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2018, 21:53:25 »
So many stupid people, not enough live ammo...because of stupid people spending money on stupid ideas.  On the bright side, nobody can shoot hte stupid people, since there isn't any live ammo.

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2018, 22:25:45 »
So many stupid people, not enough live ammo...because of stupid people spending money on stupid ideas.  On the bright side, nobody can shoot hte stupid people, since there isn't any live ammo.

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2018, 05:46:29 »
Probably NAVRES BMQ? I've never seen the Ensign on CADPAT, only thought it was supposed to be on NCDs as one of the 18 things that say Navy so people don't forget.

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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2018, 16:12:33 »
The other day I saw a picture of navy recruits in CADPAT but instead of the Canadian Flag on the left shoulder, they had the Naval Ensign.
Is this a thing? 

I'm navy, wear CADPAT and have the Canadian Flag on my shoulder.  Is there a reg/policy I'm missing?

Maybe, depending on where you work and your job, this canforgen:   http://vcds.mil.ca/apps/canforgens/default-eng.asp?id=198-09&type=canforgen

ACCORDINGLY, CF MEMBERS ENTITLED TO THE NAVAL DISTINCTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL UNIFORM (DEU) ARE HEREBY DIRECTED TO WEAR NAVAL COMBAT DRESS (NCD) IN LIEU OF CADPAT, WHERE THE CADPAT IS PERMITTED BY COMDS AND CO S AS THE DRESS OF THE DAY. EXCEPTIONS TO THIS CANFORGEN ARE PERMITTED FOR VALID OPERATIONAL REASONS ONLY, INCL EMPL IN ACTUAL FIELD OPS, FIELD TRG ACTIVITIES OR OTHER APPROVED TRG SITUATIONS

Working at an army unit in an office does not qualify as valid reason despite the attempts to have me wear cadpat. 
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2018, 09:25:50 »
Maybe, depending on where you work and your job, this canforgen:   http://vcds.mil.ca/apps/canforgens/default-eng.asp?id=198-09&type=canforgen

ACCORDINGLY, CF MEMBERS ENTITLED TO THE NAVAL DISTINCTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL UNIFORM (DEU) ARE HEREBY DIRECTED TO WEAR NAVAL COMBAT DRESS (NCD) IN LIEU OF CADPAT, WHERE THE CADPAT IS PERMITTED BY COMDS AND CO S AS THE DRESS OF THE DAY. EXCEPTIONS TO THIS CANFORGEN ARE PERMITTED FOR VALID OPERATIONAL REASONS ONLY, INCL EMPL IN ACTUAL FIELD OPS, FIELD TRG ACTIVITIES OR OTHER APPROVED TRG SITUATIONS

Working at an army unit in an office does not qualify as valid reason despite the attempts to have me wear cadpat. 

Don't think you see the mental picture - my confusion wasn't CADPAT vice NCDs - it was the face the pers in the image were CADPAT with naval ensign in lieu of the Canadian Flag.
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Re: Div patch on cadpat
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2018, 12:44:07 »
got that but also noted you are navy wearing cadpat which in the majority of cases (high 90%) that I see this the navy person is supposed to wear NCDs.  I worry more about the fact that we have mbrs wearing completely wrong uniforms rather than ensign versus flag.

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