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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2018, 13:57:46 »
Don't forget the cash that Obama gave to Iran which probably went to their war in Yemen and Syria.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2018, 14:34:15 »
Don't forget the cash that Obama gave to Iran which probably went to their war in Yemen and Syria.

I don't recall that Obama ever "gave" cash to Iran. I do recall that in the deal, sanctions were lifted which allowed Iran to again access their own sums of money which had been frozen and that there was a negotiated settlement whereby the US returned a certain sum of money that Iran had paid to the US for military equipment that it bought from them and the US had never delivered.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2018, 13:32:41 »
The current "spy" scandal in the United States may be far larger than the iconic "Watergate" (which has given its name to every scandal since). This article in American Thinker has lots of timeline details, including a timeline showing the Obama administration using private contractors to access raw FISA data as far back as 2015. This end run around FISA puts the use of FISA warrants against members of the Trump campaign team and using questionable information to secure FISA warrants in some more context.

The article also goes through other actions of the Obama Administration. If this were a movie, it would not be "All the Presidents Man" but rather something like the MCU series, with an "Infinity war" like ending in the Obama White House.

The end result is still unknown, but one thing seems clear: if high ranking public officials, Administration members and bureaucrats are being unmasked in this scandal and are not being tried and put in prison, then there will be a serious breakdown in the public trust of American institutions, which can only accelerate the unravelling of American's social capital and destruction of a high trust society.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/05/the_great_unmasking.html
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2018, 09:11:41 »
With Trump and Kim now in Singapore, the Guardian provides a perspective on how it may play out (and how it will likely be reported, regardless).

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2018, 09:30:52 »
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The dangers are clear. The North Koreans will play Trump. They’ve reportedly studied The Art of the Deal, learning how to manipulate him and his ego:

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2018, 11:04:21 »
With Trump and Kim now in Singapore, the Guardian provides a perspective on how it may play out (and how it will likely be reported, regardless).

An interesting perspective.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2018, 14:59:45 »
I suppose it's easy to attribute calm and non-partisan deliberation to the Armed Services Committee when viewed through the lens of Adm Jackson's promotion nomination alone.  However, when looking at the list of nominations still sitting in committee suddenly Adm Jackson's case does not seem that delayed when there are some nominations to general or flag rank that were submitted back in March 2017.

Senator Tester is accused of making the allegations against Dr Jackson. Tester is facing a tough re-election fight.We shall see if his voters turn him out. 8)

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2018, 15:12:30 »
Senator Tester is accused of making the allegations against Dr Jackson.

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GOP chairman 'doesn't have a problem' with Tester's handling of Jackson allegations
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/385317-gop-va-committee-chair-does-not-have-a-problem-with-testers-handling-of
Sen. Johnny Isakson (Ga.), the Republican chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee, does not “have a problem” with how misconduct allegations against Navy Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson were handled, his office said Saturday.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #59 on: June 12, 2018, 18:44:31 »
I find it interesting that immediately after the Singapore US/NK summit that Fox news is not headling anything about the summit's outcome.

The articles headlined include Rosenstein's threats to subpoena records of a Republican led House committee; CNN's Acosta shouting questions during the signing ceremony; Trump's tweet regarding Di Niro. The only on-point article seems to be on from a former CIA staffer on Korea who points out that the signed document does not necessarily state that the North will de-nuclearize.

Puzzling.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #60 on: June 13, 2018, 08:28:29 »
Wargames can be reinstated at any time.The North has agreed to helping to repatriate soldiers that were killed during the war.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #61 on: June 13, 2018, 10:36:09 »
I don't recall that Obama ever "gave" cash to Iran. I do recall that in the deal, sanctions were lifted which allowed Iran to again access their own sums of money which had been frozen and that there was a negotiated settlement whereby the US returned a certain sum of money that Iran had paid to the US for military equipment that it bought from them and the US had never delivered.

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Regardless of the source, that cash was released and was used to prop up a regime that is the sworn enemy of the US and it's pretty clear a good chunk of it went Iranian Revolutionary Guard and it's proxies. Particularly as there have been internal protests that none of those funds were apparently used to fix domestic issues.

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2018, 12:36:43 »
Regardless of the source, that cash was released and was used to prop up a regime that is the sworn enemy of the US and it's pretty clear a good chunk of it went Iranian Revolutionary Guard and it's proxies. Particularly as there have been internal protests that none of those funds were apparently used to fix domestic issues.

So what?  The money belonged to Iran and could be used as decided by the government of Iran.  As much as we may object to the internal domestic issues of Iran and its foreign policies, we (nor the American government, nor many Iranian citizens for that matter) have a vote in how that country operates.  After all the accounting, juggling the books and making legally binding (as per American courts) reparations to injured parties, the US government returned the assets that they seized froze nearly forty years previous.  The rest is just political bluster.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2018, 16:20:39 »
The left usually rant about denuclearization.Instead its about giving in on war games. ;D

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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #64 on: June 13, 2018, 16:55:26 »
The left usually rant about denuclearization.Instead its about giving in on war games. ;D

Seen that. It's actually pretty funny. Trump is not a nice person because he's  not negotiating with Korea. Then when he successfully negotiates with Korea he's not a nice person because he canceled wargames. Or my favourite he's a horrible negotiator because he  treated their leader like an equal. I crap you not.

If Trump discovered the cure for cancer people would attack him over all the cancer researchers who lost their job.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #65 on: June 13, 2018, 17:46:40 »
"There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1006837823469735936

That's wonderful news.
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Re: The US Presidency 2018
« Reply #66 on: June 14, 2018, 14:03:35 »
So what?  The money belonged to Iran and could be used as decided by the government of Iran.  As much as we may object to the internal domestic issues of Iran and its foreign policies, we (nor the American government, nor many Iranian citizens for that matter) have a vote in how that country operates.  After all the accounting, juggling the books and making legally binding (as per American courts) reparations to injured parties, the US government returned the assets that they seized froze nearly forty years previous.  The rest is just political bluster.

Just as sanctions were having a real effect on the regime and their proxies. That cash saved the regime and guaranteed likely another decade plus of oppression of the Iranian people by the Revolutionary Guard and Clerics. Not to mention keeping their proxies supplied with arms and cash. The citizens of Iran will never benefit from that money.