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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #225 on: January 28, 2019, 18:42:45 »
Can anyone give a quick breakdown of it?

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in a nutshell it showed gaping holes and inconsistencies holes in the government and media's assertions regarding the source of so-called "crime guns' in Canada and also showed legal firearms owners in a positive light.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #226 on: January 28, 2019, 20:39:01 »
in a nutshell it showed gaping holes and inconsistencies holes in the government and media's assertions regarding the source of so-called "crime guns' in Canada and also showed legal firearms owners in a positive light.

Thank you and yeah, definitely understand why that can not see the light of day up here.

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #228 on: February 19, 2019, 11:34:24 »
Maybe, just maybe, with all the shady SNC business going on the Liberals will be too nervous to push through a handgun/black rifle ban on the accout of it may look like they're grasping low hanging fruit and trying to divert attention from their imploding empire.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #229 on: February 19, 2019, 11:46:03 »
Maybe, just maybe, with all the shady SNC business going on the Liberals will be too nervous to push through a handgun/black rifle ban on the accout of it may look like they're grasping low hanging fruit and trying to divert attention from their imploding empire.

Or they might blitzkrieg it hoping to win back the support they are losing through their other scandals?

Or the PM may just implode and decide to do as much damage as possible until October?

Don't forget his end game. It's not to make things better for us, it's to move us to the NWO form of world socialism. Make us a broken nation for the picking.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

He only needs to get us to that tipping point of no return. He condemns Maduro in public, but, in private, he's on the exact same path with Canada as Maduro took with Venezuela.

 I'm getting too political for the gun thread. Stopping now.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #230 on: February 19, 2019, 14:27:58 »
I'm going to email the prime minister and offer to meet with him one on one to talk a out guns and gun control. Maybe float some ideas by him.

Im thinking he needs all the friends he can get.

Any idea what email address to use?
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #231 on: February 19, 2019, 14:35:55 »
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #233 on: February 21, 2019, 12:52:17 »
They still have enough money and manpower to hound and harass legal gun owners and taxpayers though. ::)
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #234 on: February 21, 2019, 15:21:35 »
exactly, priorities and all that......

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #235 on: February 21, 2019, 17:18:05 »
The Senate has temporarily iced this one. Not going to be a forum for JT to change the current public discourse on other matters  ::)
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #236 on: February 21, 2019, 19:48:49 »
The Senate has temporarily iced this one. Not going to be a forum for JT to change the current public discourse on other matters  ::)

Really?  Hearings of the Senate's Standing Committee on National Security and Defence and scheduled to resume next Monday.  Blair is set to deliver his report (and recommendations for any bans) to Cabinet by the end of the month.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #237 on: February 21, 2019, 21:03:41 »
Really?  Hearings of the Senate's Standing Committee on National Security and Defence and scheduled to resume next Monday.  Blair is set to deliver his report (and recommendations for any bans) to Cabinet by the end of the month.

https://ipolitics.ca/2019/02/20/committee-presses-pause-on-senate-study-of-gun-bill-amid-snc-lavalin-affair/
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #238 on: February 21, 2019, 22:32:16 »
Then the Senate needs to update their web calendar.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #239 on: February 21, 2019, 22:34:27 »
Really?  Hearings of the Senate's Standing Committee on National Security and Defence and scheduled to resume next Monday.  Blair is set to deliver his report (and recommendations for any bans) to Cabinet by the end of the month.

I believe that's completely separate from Bill C-71. Bill C-71 actually can and still may get passed before October... Blair's new gun grab wouldn't have nearly enough time, he even said as much that it wouldn't be happening this time around. With that said, it may be a campaign strategy for them.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #240 on: February 21, 2019, 22:41:47 »
I wonder if ipolitics has published irregular facts.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #241 on: February 22, 2019, 13:52:19 »
A group of about a dozen victims of Toronto's Danforth shooting have called for a complete ban on private ownership of legal handguns and "assault weapons".  They go so far as to suggest that competitive and sport shooters could still pursue their sport, but by using firearms owned by and stored at licensed shooting clubs and not their own.

No mention of action against illegal guns, though....

This should give the Liberals something to distract the public from SNC Lavalin and a few other files.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #242 on: February 22, 2019, 14:26:08 »
I think we should make it illegal to be a criminal. That would fix everything.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #243 on: February 22, 2019, 14:42:48 »
Quote from: HAGGIS

This should give the Liberals something to distract the public from SNC Lavalin and a few other files.

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #244 on: February 22, 2019, 15:36:40 »
I believe that's completely separate from Bill C-71. Bill C-71 actually can and still may get passed before October... Blair's new gun grab wouldn't have nearly enough time, he even said as much that it wouldn't be happening this time around. With that said, it may be a campaign strategy for them.

It could clear the Senate by May if everything falls into place and the Senate does not vote to change even a word of the Bill: https://ipolitics.ca/2019/02/22/gun-bill-still-faces-long-haul-as-election-closes-in/

I assume Royal Proclamation would occur before the election kicks off. Regulations can come later by OIC or they can come on day 1. Either way, it's a legislative assassination of loyal law abiding citizens ("legicide") who are not the problem and nothing of substance will be addressed from a criminal use of firearms perspective.

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #245 on: February 22, 2019, 17:45:15 »
Regulations can come later by OIC or they can come on day 1.

My guess is that the regulations are all ready to go on Day 1.  There will be no delay in implementation as the results have to be visible to the Liberal loyalists before the writ drops.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #246 on: February 26, 2019, 13:50:28 »
The Senate's Standing Committee on National Security and Defence sat yesterday and heard testimony from both sides of the C-71 debate.   I won't dissect the veracity of anyone's claims on either side, but I will say that watching Dr. Gary Mauser waving a photo of a moose while declaring that more Canadians are killed by moose each year than by lawful firearms owners was epic.
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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #247 on: February 26, 2019, 17:22:57 »
And far more are killed by medical staff as well.

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #248 on: February 26, 2019, 17:58:12 »
I will say that watching Dr. Gary Mauser waving a photo of a moose while declaring that more Canadians are killed by moose each year than by lawful firearms owners was epic.

Can't comment on moose fatalities. They never sent us to one.

I would say that about 90 per cent of the gun fatalities they sent us to were suicides. No idea if they were lawful firearms owners.

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Re: The Great Gun Control Debate- 2.0
« Reply #249 on: February 26, 2019, 18:23:24 »
I would say that about 90 per cent of the gun fatalities they sent us to were suicides. No idea if they were lawful firearms owners.

That statistical void is part of the problem.  Bill C-71 is aimed (pun intended) at enhancing the psychological background checks of lawful owners.  If my unhinged spouse/child/other relative/friend/neighbour unlawfully takes my lawfully owned gun and offs himself, Bill C-71 won't prevent that.

And Dr. Mauser was making a comparison between moose caused deaths and homicides by lawful firearms owners.
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