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What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« on: May 21, 2018, 16:44:12 »
I thought I would ask this question to get opinions! I think it would be interesting!
I added all the ranks.
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2018, 17:05:12 »
Any reason you didn't include all ranks to be selected?   ???

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2018, 17:09:16 »
From time to time, any rank that I happen to be at :)
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2018, 17:20:50 »
There should be a square for "none of the above".

I joined as an Ordinary Seaman and switched over to Ocdt after I rated as a Leading Seaman, then went all the way up to Lcdr, but being command qualified, I hung around with Commanders and Captains.

In my view, there are no ranks that are better or worse than the others, just some people who are in the wrong rank (not to mention wrong profession, in some cases).

Though, I believe that, if it were choice, I might put down G.O./Flag O. as the worse rank. As much as we all love to "bi&ch" about them from the lower rungs, their days are filled in advance for them with countless administrative tasks that they get no say in accepting or not, which leaves them with precious little time to think through the various problems they are actually supposed to solve and have the answers to. I don't think it's a life I would enjoy (I much rather enjoy the freedom of commanding a ship - even if that freedom has been constrained some lately).
 

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2018, 17:28:44 »
What is the metric for "worse"?

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2018, 17:34:28 »
Worse than what?  Bear in mind that "worse" is a comparative adjective, adverb or noun.  Or do you mean "worst" - the superlative form?  And what is being measured?  If it is simply the title, I'll chose "Aviator".  Personally, I think it sounds stupid.  It doesn't come from any historical basis (if someone knows differently, please educate me) and since it refers to the lowest rank of NCMs, the holders of the title don't "aviate".  Appears to have been selected because it sounded the same in both official languages.  What was wrong with going back to "Aircraftman"?  Or staying with "Private"?
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2018, 17:50:54 »
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2018, 18:00:13 »
What was wrong with going back to "Aircraftman"? 

Well, in this day and age, it'd be Aircraftsperson  ;)
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2018, 18:02:14 »
Well, in this day and age, it'd be Aircraftsperson  ;)

Aircraftperson.  There was no "s" in the old rank title.
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2018, 18:23:35 »
Aircraftperson.  There was no "s" in the old rank title.

And the way fleet sizes are shrinking, singular aircraft may well be the end state...
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 18:37:26 »
Aircraftperson.  There was no "s" in the old rank title.
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 19:08:41 »
Philip II of Macedon to Spartans (346 BC):  "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city."

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2018, 19:13:12 »
Aircrafter.

So, a RCAF private who works with computer programs would be...


...an AirSofter?
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 19:47:59 »
The worst rank would be corporal-captain. :whistle:

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2018, 20:53:30 »
Hands down Warrant. Everyone either looks up to you or down on you, and every expects you to have the answer, do better, be the example, be a prick, be their father, eat crap from above, take crap from below.

Any WO that has been a recruit serial WO and taken a phone call from a pissed off parent of a recruit, a crying partner/spouse, dealt with a overly stressed Sgt. or Mcpl, an officer with the social skill set of a cheese plate....

As Warrant, you’re in too far to quit, and too long to stop giving a frig. Lonely, unappreciated folks, every one of them a goddamned rock. Wait.. maybe it’s the best rank.


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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2018, 20:55:53 »
"The higher the rank, the more necessary it is that boldness should be accompanied by a reflective mind....for with increase in rank it becomes always a matter less of self-sacrifice and more a matter of the preservation of others, and the good of the whole."

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2018, 21:13:06 »
Making the ex-spouse what?

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2018, 21:21:43 »
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No crap.  I'm always out ranked, out flanked, out gunned by her and headed for the POW cage.  So, worst rank to come up against.
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2018, 21:26:08 »
I would vote for vice-admiral at the current time

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2018, 21:26:45 »
Aircrafter.

I believe it's Aircraftkin these days.
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2018, 22:23:26 »
Making the ex-spouse what?

The one that missed 4 if not 5 promotions (that mattered to her) as opposed to the current wife, who just wants me to be happy.....
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2018, 22:43:12 »
Hands down Warrant. Everyone either looks up to you or down on you, and every expects you to have the answer, do better, be the example, be a prick, be their father, eat crap from above, take crap from below.

Any WO that has been a recruit serial WO and taken a phone call from a pissed off parent of a recruit, a crying partner/spouse, dealt with a overly stressed Sgt. or Mcpl, an officer with the social skill set of a cheese plate....

As Warrant, you’re in too far to quit, and too long to stop giving a frig. Lonely, unappreciated folks, every one of them a goddamned rock. Wait.. maybe it’s the best rank.

Parents of recruits calling?! 

I’d ask if you’re serious....but sadly I know you are.

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2018, 00:07:38 »
Parents of recruits calling?! 

I’d ask if you’re serious....but sadly I know you are.

Not to derail here, but if that surprises you, some of the parents calling are members themselves. (I’m not a WO, but have been witness to said incoming calls.)
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2018, 00:23:45 »
Not to derail here, but if that surprises you, some of the parents calling are members themselves. (I’m not a WO, but have been witness to said incoming calls.)

Derail?

This thread was derailed at the title...

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2018, 08:40:59 »
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2018, 15:49:41 »
What is the metric for "worse"?
I guess "worse" being the less "desired" rank. The rank that endures the most amount of "crap"   ;D

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2018, 15:50:55 »
Any reason you didn't include all ranks to be selected?   ???

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No particular reason! Whatever came to mind! I did add on some more.

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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2018, 16:04:00 »
I guess "worse" being the less "desired" rank. The rank that endures the most amount of "crap"   ;D

The front rank.  More visible to Pl WOs, CSMs and RSMs.  The rear rank would probably be next because the supernumeraries are watching them, so the centre rank might be safest place on parade.  However, depending on the circumstances . . .

https://youtu.be/1csr0dxalpI?t=160  Rear rank may be safest.

Or sometimes it doesn't matter  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2dE74RiFqA
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Re: What is the worse rank in the CAF?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2018, 10:30:56 »
The worst rank would be corporal-captain. :whistle:

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