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The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:23:13 »
https://breakingdefense.com/2018/10/army-builds-1000-mile-supergun/?_ga=2.57007850.1978548056.1539303747-524195596.1501768444

A gun of unknown dimensions that can reach out, with precision, 1000 miles while being mobile - er - movable - er - relocatable.

My sense is, given the discussions about super-sizing rocket-assisted 155s, that we could be looking at a 227 mm cannon employed as a reusable booster for a GMRLS scale round carrying a Small Diameter Bomb submunition.

A warhead, stuffed in a bomb, stuffed in a missile, stuffed in a cannon..... A Strategic Long Range Turducken -  A Slurducken

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2018, 13:06:39 »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/4-new-weapons-the-us-army-is-developing-to-blow-a-hole-in-russian-defenses-from-incredible-distance/ar-BBOfHac?ocid=spartanntp   


The US Army wants guns, big ones. The service is modernizing for high-intensity combat against top adversaries, and one of the top priorities is long-range precision fires.

The goal of the Long-Range Precision Fires team is to pursue range overmatch against peer and near-peer competitors, Col. John Rafferty, the team's director of the LRPF who is part of the recently-established Army Futures Command, told reporters Wednesday at the Association of the United States Army conference in Washington, DC.   

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2018, 21:13:06 »
Two existing programs could be repurposed towards this end, and the "relocatable" gun might not even be all the much larger than current weapons.

The US Navy cancelled a program called the Advanced Gun System, which used a 155mm cannon mated to a new breach mechanism to fire special shells and ammunition. The LRLAP was tested at ranges of 110km and performed satisfactorily, but due to the tiny number of Zumwalt class cruisers built, the cost per run became pretty astronomical, estimated at up to $1,000,000/round.

The other program which is ongoing is converting the hypersonic projectiles developed for electric railguns for use in conventional artillery. It is estimated that such a shell fired from a normal 155mm cannon could have a range of 70km. Costing has not been announced, but since there are tens of thousands of 155mm cannon around the world, very long production runs could be scheduled to bring costs down significantly.

If we imagine the AGS cannon with its automatic loader and water cooing system for the barrel mounted on a large vehicle like the FH-77 Archer, or carried between multiple carriers like the "Atomic Annie", and armed with the hypersonic railgun shells, the performance would likely be inside the envelope of this project. A burst of 155 rounds from the weapon, then moving to a new site, while the rounds carry on to a target 200km away...

An interesting thought experiment.

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2018, 08:17:43 »
And just think, 25yrs ago we had the worlds expert on super long range arty guns.....anyone want to guess what happened to him? Hint, cough cough M*ssad cough cough.

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2018, 10:31:17 »
That's what you get when your not picky about your clients. Such tech might mean a return to a gun cruiser, a modern HMS Tiger sized vessel, with a semi armoured hull to defeat AS missile and long range guns to supplement more expensive missile systems.

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2018, 14:01:19 »
That's what you get when your not picky about your clients. Such tech might mean a return to a gun cruiser, a modern HMS Tiger sized vessel, with a semi armoured hull to defeat AS missile and long range guns to supplement more expensive missile systems.

True enough, but its funny how the circle is being closed on this again.  If Elon Musk had been around back in the early 90's Bull's talents could have been used there. Sad how many of Canada's best and brightest have been cast aside and had to ply their talents elsewhere in the world. As an aside, they both would have been Queen's alumni.....
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 16:42:17 »
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Major breakthrough: Army artillery hits target at 38 miles, doubling range

By Kris Osborn | Warrior Maven

The Army has successfully fired a 155mm artillery round 62 kilometers (38.5 miles) - marking a technical breakthrough in the realm of land-based weapons and progressing toward its stated goal of being able to outrange and outgun Russian and Chinese weapons.

“We just doubled the range of our artillery at Yuma Proving Ground,” Gen. John Murray, Commanding General of Army Futures Command, told reporters at the recent Association of the United States Army Annual Symposium.


Currently, most land-fired artillery shot from an M777 Towed Howitzer or Self-Propelled Howitzer are able to pinpoint targets out to 30km (18.6 miles) - so hitting 62km marks a substantial leap forward in offensive attack capability.

Murray was clear that the intent of the effort, described as Extended Range Cannon Artillery, is specifically aimed at regaining tactical overmatch against Russian and Chinese weapons.

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See rest of article here:

https://www.foxnews.com/tech/major-breakthrough-army-artillery-hits-target-at-38-miles-doubling-range

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2018, 01:18:45 »
And just think, 25yrs ago we had the worlds expert on super long range arty guns.....anyone want to guess what happened to him? Hint, cough cough M*ssad cough cough.
I thought it was hint, cough cough $addam Hu$$ein Ir@q  cough cough M*ssad cough cough?

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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2018, 01:21:01 »
how about Bell
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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2018, 11:23:15 »
Bull!
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Re: The Rise of the Slorc - The 1000 Mile Cannon
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 12:40:39 »
yup...
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