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BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« on: December 05, 2018, 01:11:03 »
I am going to BMQ on Jan 12 for 10 weeks and i was wondering what has been removed from BMQ. I tried looking for other threads and could not find any.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 14:52:48 »
I am going to BMQ on Jan 12 for 10 weeks and i was wondering what has been removed from BMQ. I tried looking for other threads and could not find any.

The shortened duration isn't necessarily about what's been removed. The course has been condensed. While looking at the new training plans and comparing, for the most part it's simply a lot of down-time that's been cut and/or filled up. (There's still some, of course, but not as many admin periods and such as there used to be.) There have been a few component alterations (such as the 13km ruck), field time has been broken down differently and some locations have changed for certain aspects of the course. However, I wouldn't be concerned about anything other than getting through those 10 weeks.   
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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 02:11:40 »
There is a face book group up for January 14, 2018 BMQ "Canadian Forces Recruits Starting BMQ on January 14th, 2019"

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 07:23:05 »
I am going to BMQ on Jan 12 for 10 weeks and i was wondering what has been removed from BMQ. I tried looking for other threads and could not find any.

The shortened duration isn't necessarily about what's been removed. The course has been condensed. While looking at the new training plans and comparing, for the most part it's simply a lot of down-time that's been cut and/or filled up. (There's still some, of course, but not as many admin periods and such as there used to be.) There have been a few component alterations (such as the 13km ruck), field time has been broken down differently and some locations have changed for certain aspects of the course. However, I wouldn't be concerned about anything other than getting through those 10 weeks.

See also,

BMQ changed to 10 weeks ?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=98689.0
3 pages.

« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 08:27:20 by mariomike »

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 14:55:40 »
See also,

BMQ changed to 10 weeks ?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=98689.0
3 pages.

Unfortunately, that thread dates back to 2011, long before formal changes took place and there isn't relevant information related to the poster's question of  "...what's been removed...", since at that point it was all still rumour and/or speculation only.
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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2018, 08:57:01 »
Hey guys, I got selected as a army supply tech. My BMQ start date is Jan 28th, 2019. Anyone else lurking this thread have the same start date ?  :subbies:
« Last Edit: December 17, 2018, 09:15:07 by Kitkat5 »

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 10:06:27 »
I am going to BMQ on Jan 12 for 10 weeks and i was wondering what has been removed from BMQ. I tried looking for other threads and could not find any.
I was talking to some of the recruiters after my enrolment ceremony and was told that a lot of combat oriented training, weapons handling was reduced as it more than what is needed for purple trades and will be made up in occupational training for the more combat specializing trades.

I was wondering about the civi dress code, I get the no leggings part but dress pants or jeans as mentioned on the joining instructions? I know there is a lot of grey area (people dressed like cowboys) and was hoping for input regarding grey camo pants or cargo pants, obviously would not like to buy more clothes that I will never wear unless required.


Hey guys, I got selected as a army supply tech. My BMQ start date is Jan 28th, 2019. Anyone else lurking this thread have the same start date ?  :subbies:

I will starting then too

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2019, 10:13:06 »
Camo pants are cool until you're wearing them for 18 hours a day, or for a 7 week stretch without laundry or a shower. Find some other colour.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 10:28:30 »
Camo pants are cool until you're wearing them for 18 hours a day, or for a 7 week stretch without laundry or a shower. Find some other colour.

Compared to jeans or dress pants they would be much more preferable, I'm just interested whether or not there will be any issue wearing something casual instead of something dressy at BMQ until issued my kit.

Also would athletic pants be acceptable when it says athletic shorts on joining instructions?

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2019, 10:59:24 »
There's a reason you're being asked to bring "dressy" clothes. From Day 1 you're going to be indoctrinated on professionalism. Part of that is how you dress. You'll hear dress and deportment more times than you can count on your fingers and toes every day you're at St Jean (if they're doing it right). I just looked at the BMQ Joining Instructions, and to me it screams "Business Casual".

The athletic clothing they're asking you to bring is for PT, I would bring the minimum and then those athletic pants if you want for outdoor PT.

The goal here is to bring what they ask, its for a reason. You're not the first person going through BMQ that doesn't want to wear dress pants or jeans, and you won't be the last.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2019, 15:43:20 »
I was talking to some of the recruiters after my enrolment ceremony and was told that a lot of combat oriented training, weapons handling was reduced as it more than what is needed for purple trades and will be made up in occupational training for the more combat specializing trades.

I was wondering about the civi dress code, I get the no leggings part but dress pants or jeans as mentioned on the joining instructions? I know there is a lot of grey area (people dressed like cowboys) and was hoping for input regarding grey camo pants or cargo pants, obviously would not like to buy more clothes that I will never wear unless required.

I will starting then too

For clarification, weapons training and handling still encompasses all the key components it did when I was there.

I never saw anyone dressed like cowboys. What I did see were females wearing leggings and yoga pants even though they were told not to. I saw males and females not having the faintest idea of what business casual was, I saw people with PT/gym attire, which was laughable at best, and I saw people who actually looked presentable and professional and who were prepared. Everyone receives the same prep list. So, choose your own reasons for why you'll stand out right off the bat--be it negative reasons or positive reasons.

Don't bring a ton of civvie stuff. You won't need it.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2019, 20:17:46 »
There's nothing wrong with the pants on the left or middle, however I'd advise against showing up in camouflage pattern clothing. The joining instructions say nothing about business casual, and I'd argue anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't actually worked in an office environment because you certainly wouldn't want to be marching around and humping kit bags in that type of clothing.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2019, 20:34:37 »
I never saw anyone dressed like cowboys. What I did see were females wearing leggings and yoga pants even though they were told not to. I saw males and females not having the faintest idea of what business casual was, I saw people with PT/gym attire, which was laughable at best, and I saw people who actually looked presentable and professional and who were prepared. Everyone receives the same prep list. So, choose your own reasons for why you'll stand out right off the bat--be it negative reasons or positive reasons.

Don't bring a ton of civvie stuff. You won't need it.

I've never had an issue with the dress code in the professional background I come from so I honestly don't know where the line is between business casual and too casual is, that's why I'm here looking for input, grey camo and the green cargo pants from the picture I posted before was suitable when working as a liaison and supply chain rep.
Now I went out and spent $320 for half the clothes and that's why I'm looking for input, getting everything on the list can get unnecessarily expensive if some of the clothes I already own meet the criteria.
Now about leggings and athletic shorts, I hate leggings and haven't bought a pair of shorts in over ten years so when I'm looking at athletic shorts and crop pants, they all look like leggings to me, can someone suggest whether or not these are acceptable as athletic bottoms for BMQ?
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There's nothing wrong with the pants on the left or middle, however I'd advise against showing up in camouflage pattern clothing.
On weekends IF we're allowed out after indoc, would there be any issue in wearing my grey camo then?

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2019, 21:32:26 »
I've never had an issue with the dress code in the professional background I come from so I honestly don't know where the line is between business casual and too casual is, that's why I'm here looking for input, grey camo and the green cargo pants from the picture I posted before was suitable when working as a liaison and supply chain rep.
Now I went out and spent $320 for half the clothes and that's why I'm looking for input, getting everything on the list can get unnecessarily expensive if some of the clothes I already own meet the criteria.
Now about leggings and athletic shorts, I hate leggings and haven't bought a pair of shorts in over ten years so when I'm looking at athletic shorts and crop pants, they all look like leggings to me, can someone suggest whether or not these are acceptable as athletic bottoms for BMQ?
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On weekends IF we're allowed out after indoc, would there be any issue in wearing my grey camo then?

You will absolutely be allowed off base after Indoc. It’s just a matter of which weekend(s) you’ll have taken away from you/the pl. (This happens to everyone at least once, it’s just part of the process.) Yes, you can wear those pants, or any other pants you’re comfortable in.

I’m not trying to be facetious here, but I honestly don’t know how to explain suitable attire. Do you need a full business suit? No. Do you need creased dress slacks and a button-down blouse with dress shoes? I wouldn’t even go that far. Khakis and a nice v-neck with sensible shoes should suffice. (And I can’t stress “sensible” enough. You’ll be doing a ton of walking and standing—enough to make you sweat, because you’ll be walking as fast as you can everywhere while trying to learn how to march. Those little slip-on, flat-soled, no cushion and zero traction things won’t cut it.)

Standard athletic wear will be fine. I bought a couple of inexpensive black, slightly fitted T’s from Walmart and I got my shorts from Winners and Sportchek. (I prefer the style with the tight, dry fit layer underneath and a loose layer on top—one piece.) You won’t need more than a couple of pairs tops. You’ll be able to do laundry each evening. I can’t stress enough how few items of civvie  clothing you’ll actually need. (Unfortunately, you won’t understand what I mean until you’re already into course—I’m trying to save you some effort though.)
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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2019, 21:44:07 »
You will absolutely be allowed off base after Indoc. It’s just a matter of which weekend(s) you’ll have taken away from you/the pl. (This happens to everyone at least once, it’s just part of the process.) Yes, you can wear those pants, or any other pants you’re comfortable in.

I’m not trying to be facetious here, but I honestly don’t know how to explain suitable attire. Do you need a full business suit? No. Do you need creased dress slacks and a button-down blouse with dress shoes? I wouldn’t even go that far. Khakis and a nice v-neck with sensible shoes should suffice. (And I can’t stress “sensible” enough. You’ll be doing a ton of walking and standing—enough to make you sweat, because you’ll be walking as fast as you can everywhere while trying to learn how to march. Those little slip-on, flat-soled, no cushion things won’t cut it.)

Standard athletic wear will be fine. I bought a couple of inexpensive black, slightly fitted T’s from Walmart and I got my shorts from Winners and Sportchek. (I prefer the style with the tight, dry fit layer underneath and a loose layer on top—one piece.) You won’t need more than a couple of pairs tops. You’ll be able to do laundry each evening. I can’t stress enough how few items of civvie  clothing you’ll actually need. (Unfortunately, you won’t understand what I mean until you’re already into course—I’m trying to save you some effort though.)

Right now I just wear something casual that is comfortable and nonrestrictive, as for the civi clothing I was only planning to bring what was listed on the Joining Instructions, two pairs of casual pants, two athletic shirts etc., etc. I just literally don't have anything other than like three sets of casual clothing before I went shopping today. I guess I'm good with the business casual and athletic tops, just need to figure out if those compression type athletic bottoms would be acceptable.
I do want to thank everyone for their input as I'll no longer be left guessing and make a fool of myself day one.

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2019, 21:27:21 »
Hey guys, I got selected as a army supply tech. My BMQ start date is Jan 28th, 2019. Anyone else lurking this thread have the same start date ?  :subbies:


MY BMQ start date is January 28, 2019 as well!

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Re: BMQ 2019 - Regular Force
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2019, 14:55:50 »
Anyone here going to BMQ March 11 ?