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Howzabout an int'l tribunal to try ISIS'ites?
« on: June 06, 2019, 13:55:45 »
With thanks to brihard for sharing the article that first led me to this - from the Swedish government ...
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On Monday 3 June, civil servants from Sweden, Germany, France, the UK, the Netherlands and other countries and organisations will take part in an expert meeting to discuss the possibility of establishing a tribunal or some other legal mechanism to prosecute people who fought for the terrorist group ISIS on the ground in Syria and Iraq. Minister for Home Affairs Mikael Damberg will be available for comment in connection with the meeting.

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Citizens from many European countries travelled to Syria and Iraq to join the terrorist group ISIS. The geographical distance to evidence and testimony constitutes a challenge for the Member States’ national legal systems to prosecute these individuals. Administering justice in the region, by means of a tribunal or some other legal mechanism, could complement national legal proceedings and contribute to accountability for the crimes committed during the conflict in Syria and Iraq. This could ultimately lead to more convictions. The Swedish Government has therefore taken the initiative to, and will host, a meeting of civil servant experts to discuss possible ways forward. Representatives of Sweden Norway, Finland, Denmark, Austria, Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, France, Switzerland and the UK will take part in the meeting, as will representatives of the EU and UNITAD ...
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Re: Howzabout an int'l tribunal to try ISIS'ites?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 14:02:45 »
This is an extremely good idea to ensure fairness and transparency to the process, and eliminate a pesky political problem for all member states. If there is opportunity, any nation dealing with returning fighters should try and get in on it.
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Re: Howzabout an int'l tribunal to try ISIS'ites?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 16:57:20 »
Except in Canada. It seems some of our politicians prefer IS terrorists over veterans. Yes I’m a cynic.
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Re: Howzabout an int'l tribunal to try ISIS'ites?
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 18:32:15 »
Always wondered by we weren't using the International Criminal Court to try these animals, if we wanted to go that route. Seems like a perfect place on "neutral" ground so the trials cannot be called a farce. Quick bit of Google says that if the UNSC refers a situation to the ICC, it gives the ICC jurisdiction over that territory even though the countries haven't signed on like Iraq and Syria.

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Re: Howzabout an int'l tribunal to try ISIS'ites?
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 19:37:30 »
Always wondered by we weren't using the International Criminal Court to try these animals, if we wanted to go that route. Seems like a perfect place on "neutral" ground so the trials cannot be called a farce. Quick bit of Google says that if the UNSC refers a situation to the ICC, it gives the ICC jurisdiction over that territory even though the countries haven't signed on like Iraq and Syria.

The United States isn’t party to the ICC, for one thing, and it’s hard to have a solution to ISIS that doesn’t involve the largest player in the counter-ISIS fight, especially if you want to impose such a solution on Syria and Iraq, who already have their own plans for dealing with ISIS fighters (for Iraq: a speedy trial followed by hanging, for Syria: the same, with less fuss about the trial).