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« on: November 05, 2003, 12:46:00 »
Before anyone dismisses this, i am wondering if their are any allowences to join the canadian army if ur from another country, i am from california and as opposed to joining the us army i figured it would be great to see canada and meet some new people from across the border...do they offer citizenships or anything like that if ur coming to canada purely to join the military....any any any any advice at all would be great thanks  :confused:    :fifty:

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2003, 13:28:00 »
I am not to familiar with the Canadian Forces, but I know if you wanted to join ANY police force in Canada you have to have your Canadian citizen ship or be a landed immigrant for at least two years before applying.

I suspect that the Canadian Forces may be similar.  Did you check the requirements on this webpage?

I have a few friends who want to go to America to join the army (mostly AirForce) but I am not use to seeing an American wanting to join Canadian army.  

May I ask why specifically?

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2003, 13:37:00 »
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2003, 13:41:00 »
I personally think the united states has the worlds most powerful military force bar none, i dont care about that ****.... i know canadians they are great people and would love to meet some new people north of the border. i was thinking if i could get into the canadian army for a bit than maybe i would join the us marines after if i could maintain some kind of duel citizenship. plus everyone in know goes to the us military why not check out other options!! =)i know the usa has certain allowences and things for people wanting to the joining our forces i was thinking maybe canada was the same... its like **** we are brothers in my eyes i dont know why it should be a big issue    :sniper:    :mg:    :akimbo:    :cam:

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2003, 14:41:00 »
Northamericanrebel: you need to apply for Canadian Citizenship or Landed Immigrant status before you can apply for the CF. There‘s no exchange program, and there‘s no way to enter with only American citizenship. Getting dual citizenship is tricky too. In any case, the answer to your question is no.

By the way, there are a lot better ways to meet people than to join the army, FYI.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2003, 16:17:00 »
its 5 years in canada.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2003, 16:36:00 »
northamericanrebel... you are the coolest american that i‘ve met!!!
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2003, 16:40:00 »
thanks fuken hog wash, **** i guess its off to us army.....LOL 10th Mountain sounds fun =)

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2003, 12:21:00 »
Yeah gryphon664 said it! You are one awsome yank! I think you singlehandedly caused ****  to freeze over with your wish...

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2003, 14:09:00 »
The U.S. no longer allows for dual citizenship.  Even for people born in the Commonwealth countries, which all used to be relatively easy to maintain the dual citizenship with the U.S.

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2003, 15:38:00 »
thought that if lets say you had one parent of one country and the other lets say american... doesn‘t the child  become both?
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2003, 16:38:00 »
Symchyshyn: No. My nephew is just that; the child of both, and yet he is only allowed citizenship in Canada, because that‘s where he was born. If he wants American citizenship, he would, most likely be forced to forfeit his Canadian citizenship/
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2003, 22:45:00 »
future soldier i am in the same situation!

I was born in poland and came to Canada when i was 3 (currently 18) Neway i always wanted to join the USMC is there anything i can do??

I apllied for the green card lottery last year and the results are going to be back in april. Hopefully i get it. But the thing is i talked to the us army people and they told me i need a us citizenship . One thing that makes me wonder is that i was on the usmc website once and on the news they said that the first canadian ever graduated from usmc, now i want to know how the ****  he did it. I dont want to join reserves, omnly full time. I would appreciate any help. Thx

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2003, 23:09:00 »
You have EU membership... why join the USMC.  Why not go back and join the Polish army.  Its going to be very modern in the next few years.  You‘ll get to drive Leo2‘s the best MBT in business.  They are doing a lot of work with the US, so you‘ll get sent out on missions.  

Sure their good things to being in the US military, but don‘t forget that there are other units out there just as good if not better.

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2003, 09:55:00 »
Why not join the foreign legion while you‘re at it?

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2003, 21:54:00 »
omg so much people are telling me i should join the foreign legion but i still dont know wtf it is. Do they have some info site?

They are located in france right?? I cant speak french.

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2003, 23:32:00 »
please USMC...accept no exceptions lol

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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2003, 10:26:00 »
Umm.. to my knowlege, the french forgien legion has been disbanded..
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2003, 16:43:00 »
Combat_Medic

I thought that US and Canada has some sort of agreement that allows a person to hold dual citizenship. Since we‘re such close neighbours with the States (both geographically and politically) that one could hold both US and Canadian citizenship withouth having to cancel either one.

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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2003, 09:58:00 »
For what it‘s worth - My ex-wife‘s family were all US Immigration, Customs, or Border Patrol Officers. I was told that if/when I naturalized (haven‘t yet) that "as far as the US was concerned, I would be a US Citizen.. if another country (Canada, for example) chooses to continue to recognize me as a citizen, then so be it. On the flip side, my daughter was born here in Phoenix. Immigration Canada indicated that because one of her parents is a Canadian citizen, she is eligible to be/obtain/apply for (?) Canadian citizenship (I haven‘t looked into it that closely)
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2003, 21:45:00 »
So what exactly could i do to join the usmc full time. I know that with the green card you can only join reserves. Cause its either the French Foreign Legion or the USMC for me.

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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2003, 22:35:00 »
Umm.. to my knowlege, the french forgien legion has been disbanded..

Trust me they haven‘t been...just do a search online and you will see they are very much in existence.
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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2003, 10:50:00 »
I‘m from Ireland and am in the Canadian Army.  Had to be in the country 3 continous years before getting my Canadian citizenship.  I think you can get into the reserves with Landed Immigrant status.

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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2003, 08:30:00 »
North, I was born in France, one of my parents was Canadian and the other was American so I had triple citizenship. When I got my security clearance, the US made me relinquish both my French and Canadian nationalities. LOL

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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2004, 23:37:00 »
Hey

I‘m an American citizen, but would love to serve in the Canadian Forces- Army. I‘ve been to Canada and loved it, and have had an interest in the military for as long as i could remember. I would definately move north and enlist if I could. Any advice from anyone?

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2004, 23:53:00 »
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[qb] Hey

I‘m an American citizen, but would love to serve in the Canadian Forces- Army. I‘ve been to Canada and loved it, and have had an interest in the military for as long as i could remember. I would definately move north and enlist if I could. Any advice from anyone?
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A landed immigrant can serve in the reserves, you need to be a citizen to serve in the regular forces.

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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2004, 02:39:00 »
I was asking the same thing about going the other way, from Canada to US forces.

Sounded long and complicated.

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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2004, 21:57:00 »
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Originally posted by Sappo:
[qb] I was asking the same thing about going the other way, from Canada to US forces.

Sounded long and complicated. [/qb]
I take it you gave up?

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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2004, 10:40:00 »
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[qb]  
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Originally posted by IJB21:
[qb] Hey

I‘m an American citizen, but would love to serve in the Canadian Forces- Army. I‘ve been to Canada and loved it, and have had an interest in the military for as long as i could remember. I would definately move north and enlist if I could. Any advice from anyone?
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A landed immigrant can serve in the reserves, you need to be a citizen to serve in the regular forces. [/qb]
Not anymore.  Now you have to be a Canadian Citizen to serve in regs or reserves.

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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2004, 15:42:00 »
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[qb]Not anymore.  Now you have to be a Canadian Citizen to serve in regs or reserves. [/qb]
Can you show me reference on that?

We just had a reserve officer attested that‘s a landed immigrant.
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« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2004, 17:29:00 »
Check this link out:   http://www.recruiting.forces.gc.ca/html/careers/career_advantage/training.html  

The jist of it is that you have to be a Canadian citizen to serve in the reg force but a landed immigrant can serve in the reserves as an NCM.

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« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2004, 20:29:00 »
In CFAOs we trust  ;)

Thanks, East Side.
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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2013, 16:42:41 »
Does anyone know if someone with prior military service applying for the Canadian army can bypass basic training and/or receive advanced rank upon enlisting?

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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2013, 17:00:13 »
Does anyone know if someone with prior military service applying for the Canadian army can bypass basic training and/or receive advanced rank upon enlisting?

These discussions may be of interest to you.

Will the Canadian Armed Forces count time served in the US Army?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=108238.0

Will my time in the U.S. Army count for anything?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,18494.msg914640.html#msg914640
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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2013, 17:41:49 »
Appreciate the response, answer seems to be a "no" with the exception of some speciality schools.

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2013, 18:04:07 »
Ben,  do you have prior service in the US Military?  I'm curious because in 2011, you were asking questions regarding joining as Signaller in the Canadian Army. As well, going off info you posted, you would be 19 or 20 right now.
« Last Edit: July 21, 2013, 18:11:26 by -Skeletor- »

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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2013, 18:49:21 »
20 as of yesterday. I picked a bad time to try and join the forces, after 2+ years of trying to go combat arms with the forces. I was lucky enough to get a TACP contract with the USAF. I'm currently 5 months into my pipeline.  I did this in the hopes of making myself more marketable to the forces when I reapply after my 4 year stint.

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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2013, 19:04:20 »
I'm assuming you are an American citizen? Are you/were you a dual Canadian/US citizen?

So, you joined the USAF in the hopes of making yourself a better candidate for the Canadian Forces?

Also,  because you were asking about JTACs in the CF; you are aware that you may not be a JTAC at the end of a 4 year TACP contract? No doubt, a TACP/ROMAD will get some great experience and training in their first 4 years. However, JTAC qualification may or may not be something you get in that time frame.
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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2013, 19:16:24 »
I am indeed a U.S citizen.  I joined the USAF for a multitude of reasons, mainly to be an operator regardless of the flag on my shoulder. I love both my countries but I had to pursue the opportunity presented to me. I wanted a chance to deploy at a younger age and get operational experience rather then go  to college and drink away my 20s.

Although not guaranteed it is possible to get my jtac quals before my enlistment is up, fingers crossed I don't get hurt or caught up with the law. With the war winding down it's mostly a waiting game until I make SrA to get a school slot.

On a side note they are trying to put JTAC and JFO into the pipeline to expedite the wait.

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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2018, 20:26:47 »
Hi everyone,
first let me say, I have searched this website and others and I haven't been able to find much specifically, but if this has already been addressed, I apologize and will not ask again.

Background: I'm a dual US-Canadian citizen. Born/raised in the states, married my college sweetheart who is Canadian. Served 8 years in the US military as a commissioned officer. Moved to Canada about a decade ago for my wife's career. Became a naturalized Canadian citizen recently and have been considering joining a local reserve unit (enlisted or officer, don't care) or the cadets as a CIC officer just to get involved again because I miss the camaraderie and discipline. No plans to ever go full time again or make this a career.

My questions are: Is there anyone else on here who has a similar background to me and has successfully joined the reserves with prior US military service? If so, was your prior service an impediment in any way? I'm debating whether to try joining. All I have as proof of my prior service is my DD-214 (which includes an honourable discharge and a clean record with several personal/service related awards) that I received when I was discharged over ten years ago. I have not kept in touch with any supervisors and at this point I'm pretty sure my previous CO's are all retired anyway. I certainly can provide references for some of the subordinates I served with, but I haven't kept in touch with my old supervisors. I have no idea how complicated this would be in terms of what the CAF might want beyond my DD-214, old US military references, my old US military medical files, etc. and whether this whole thing would just be a can of worms or whether I'm making this out to be more complicated than it will be.

If there is anyone on here who has gone through this I'd be much obliged to read about your experience joining.

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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2018, 20:53:22 »
Is there anyone else on here who has a similar background to me and has successfully joined the reserves with prior US military service?

For reference to this discussion,

Prior U.S military service transfer?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=111445.0

Will the Canadian Armed Forces count time served in the US Army?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=108238.0

Will my time in the U.S. Army count for anything?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,18494.msg914640.html#msg914640
Reply #305

The "Wanting To Join Another Military" Thread- Them To Us- Us To Them 
https://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,18494.msg914640.html
18 pages,

etc...



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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2018, 20:54:21 »
Hi everyone,
first let me say, I have searched this website and others and I haven't been able to find much specifically, but if this has already been addressed, I apologize and will not ask again.

Background: I'm a dual US-Canadian citizen. Born/raised in the states, married my college sweetheart who is Canadian. Served 8 years in the US military as a commissioned officer. Moved to Canada about a decade ago for my wife's career. Became a naturalized Canadian citizen recently and have been considering joining a local reserve unit (enlisted or officer, don't care) or the cadets as a CIC officer just to get involved again because I miss the camaraderie and discipline. No plans to ever go full time again or make this a career.

My questions are: Is there anyone else on here who has a similar background to me and has successfully joined the reserves with prior US military service? If so, was your prior service an impediment in any way? I'm debating whether to try joining. All I have as proof of my prior service is my DD-214 (which includes an honourable discharge and a clean record with several personal/service related awards) that I received when I was discharged over ten years ago. I have not kept in touch with any supervisors and at this point I'm pretty sure my previous CO's are all retired anyway. I certainly can provide references for some of the subordinates I served with, but I haven't kept in touch with my old supervisors. I have no idea how complicated this would be in terms of what the CAF might want beyond my DD-214, old US military references, my old US military medical files, etc. and whether this whole thing would just be a can of worms or whether I'm making this out to be more complicated than it will be.

If there is anyone on here who has gone through this I'd be much obliged to read about your experience joining.

I'm sure someone will be able to give you some good advice on here, but I also suggest that you go into your local CAF Recruiting office and ask them. They're always up to date on what is, and isn't, possible.
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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2018, 21:03:28 »
For reference to this discussion,

Prior U.S military service transfer?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=111445.0

Will the Canadian Armed Forces count time served in the US Army?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=108238.0

Will my time in the U.S. Army count for anything?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,18494.msg914640.html#msg914640
Reply #305

The "Wanting To Join Another Military" Thread- Them To Us- Us To Them 
https://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,18494.msg914640.html
18 pages,

etc...

Thanks, I did see these; I was trying to understand more specifically about the background process for anyone else like me who has US mil service but has been out as long as I have. I didn't see much in those threads answering my specific questions but I really do appreciate the references.

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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2018, 21:08:42 »
I'm sure someone will be able to give you some good advice on here, but I also suggest that you go into your local CAF Recruiting office and ask them. They're always up to date on what is, and isn't, possible.

Understood, thank you. I did contact a local reserve unit and even went to the local armoury during a drill night. The recruiter there was very busy and we didn't talk much but I had some great conversations with some of the reservists. At the moment, I'm out of town for my job and not near an office, so I thought I'd ask my questions on here in case there are any other Americans like me who have done this.

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« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2018, 21:18:32 »
I really do appreciate the references.

Good. Here is another,

AMERICAN INTERESTED IN CANADIAN ARMY 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=13198.0
2 pages.

As mentioned, Recruiting is your most trusted source of official, up to date information.

"Unofficial site, not associated with DND or the Canadian Armed Forces."

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« Reply #46 on: September 23, 2018, 00:25:01 »
Good. Here is another,

AMERICAN INTERESTED IN CANADIAN ARMY 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=13198.0
2 pages.

As mentioned, Recruiting is your most trusted source of official, up to date information.

"Unofficial site, not associated with DND or the Canadian Armed Forces."

Great. As I mentioned in my original post, I'm already a Canadian citizen and have been for about 5 years. I'm not asking whether Americans can join the Canadian military. I was just looking for any Americans on here who might have prior US military experience before they joined the Canadian Forces. I wanted to know what their experiences were. This thread you've merged my message into, like the previous one, was not what I was asking. I mean no disrespect but can I please have my original post back as a stand alone thread? So far there is no other post/thread that applies specifically to what I've been asking.

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #47 on: September 23, 2018, 08:37:12 »
For a person from another country they must reside in the US with a green card then go to a recruiting station. The Army just announced that they missed their quota. If you meet the requirements join the USAF or USN and learn a trade.If you go in the Army you would be going to Afghanistan at some point.

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/eligibility-categories
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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #48 on: September 23, 2018, 09:45:38 »
For a person from another country they must reside in the US with a green card then go to a recruiting station. The Army just announced that they missed their quota. If you meet the requirements join the USAF or USN and learn a trade.If you go in the Army you would be going to Afghanistan at some point.

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/eligibility-categories

I think you misread the post.

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #49 on: September 23, 2018, 10:19:29 »
The father of a peer of mine did a tour in Vietnam and then joined the CAF sometime in the 70s or 80s.  He went on to serve in the PPCLI reaching MWO I think.

Not sure what if any qualifications he was granted to carry over, or awards and declarations as well.

I have also served with a good number of UK expats, so it's not terribly uncommon. 

To get the goods on the actual facts and process though I highly suggest you go to your local CFRC or call them.  I am not and have never been a recruiter so I dont feel I can honestly give you any advice.
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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2018, 11:01:31 »
Times have changed but I recall Basic and we had a former Czech soldier who was fluent in a number of languages. He had defected and the Army was going to send to cook school.At the other extreme was a former FFL turned NCO in the US army. He definitely was an impressive guy and quite good at setting an ambush some tactics were not taught usually. It was good to know stuff. He might set his ambush 50 meters off a trail or road.

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2018, 14:27:50 »
. . . . I was just looking for any Americans on here who might have prior US military experience before they joined the Canadian Forces. I wanted to know what their experiences were. This thread you've merged my message into, like the previous one, was not what I was asking. I mean no disrespect but can I please have my original post back as a stand alone thread? So far there is no other post/thread that applies specifically to what I've been asking.

If you are only accepting the advice of other Yanquis who joined the CAF, then you may have a long wait for someone to mosey on past this thread or even a standalone thread with the exact criteria you want .  We are a relatively small community who frequent this forum and while there has been the occasional foreigner who has passed this way on his search for info about joining the CF, at the present none of the regular participants (to my recollection) are in your category.  The consolidation of similar questions into larger threads is one of the common forum management processes that we have come to expect; it works a little better for us than multiple standalone threads.

In looking at your original post, my take is that the essence of your request is;

. . .  dual US-Canadian citizen. . . Served 8 years in the US military as a commissioned officer. . .  considering joining a local reserve unit (enlisted or officer, don't care) or the cadets as a CIC officer. . .

. . .  was your prior service an impediment in any way? . . . . I have no idea how complicated this would be in terms of what the CAF might want beyond my DD-214, old US military references, my old US military medical files, etc. and whether this whole thing would just be a can of worms or whether I'm making this out to be more complicated than it will be.

You are in the same boat as any other former foreigner (regardless of country, though slightly different for those from countries with the Queen as head of state) who came to our shores and now wishes to try military service again.  You already meet the number one criteria for enrolment - you have Canadian citizenship.  First big hurdle passed.

You may be "making this out to be more complicated than it will be" but it will be more complicated than for someone who was born, lived and was educated in the Great White North.  During your enrolment processing you will likely be asked to provide verification that you were indeed born in the USA, lived where you said you did, received whatever education you say you have (and that it was equivalent to a Canadian education - though that is not usually a problem for Americans) and that you have no criminal history in any of the countries in which you have lived.  Making a claim that you have previous military service will probably be one of the least complicated aspects of your enrolment process, unless of course you are seeking some advanced standing based on your US military training.  Then a PLAR would have to be completed before your enrolment and that may take some time.  Probably the easiest way to get a slight jump on the process is to request a copy of your OMPF.  Just the fact that you served in the US military shouldn't be an impediment to joining the CAF, neither should dual citizenship unlike the US military.
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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2018, 15:53:48 »
I am curious why after 8 years you would opt to join the CF ? I am guessing that you may be a Captain with only another year or so before selection to Major ? Thanks

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2018, 17:02:51 »
I am curious why after 8 years you would opt to join the CF ? I am guessing that you may be a Captain with only another year or so before selection to Major ? Thanks


Maybe this has something to do with it.

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2018, 18:49:58 »
Understood, thank you. I did contact a local reserve unit and even went to the local armoury during a drill night. The recruiter there was very busy and we didn't talk much but I had some great conversations with some of the reservists. At the moment, I'm out of town for my job and not near an office, so I thought I'd ask my questions on here in case there are any other Americans like me who have done this.

While the reserve recruiters might have some insight, probably a better way to go is to get to the Canadian Forces Recruiting Centre closest to you and ask those questions.  They would have the most updated info.
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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2018, 12:04:44 »
After reading the thread I'm not catching what your questions are specifically, but here are some recruiting comments.

1) Can you join?
The basic requirements to join the CAF are
a) Age (between the ages of 16 and depending on enrollment plan upper age is 46-57) - from the sounds of if you meet that requirement
b) Citizenship (be a Canadian Citizen) - you state you meet that requirement
c) Education - depending on the occupation you wish to join is depending on the requirement education - if you educated outside of Canada you will need to have that education assess by an agency such as World Education Services (http://www.wes.org)

2) Will your previous service hinder your enrollment?
Nope, it will be treated like any other employer you had outside of Canada

3) Will the CAF recognize your prior service?
There are some situations where yes, however being that you served with a military that doesn't have the Queen as the Head of State; it is not likely that much (if anything) will be granted to you from your prior service with the US Military.

As suggested, your best option is to speak with the Canadian Forces Recruiting Centre in your location; not to put down the Reserves, but I worked as a Recruiter in a Reserve Unit many moons ago and did so without any specialized training.  The recruiters at the CFRC have to do a recruiter course just to be there :-)

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Re: Prior U.S military service transfer?
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2018, 15:47:40 »
In response to paulc87, I've not seen previous allied/US military service hinder enrollment.  My experience is from the other side of the coin - as a recruiter and a Reserve Unit leader. Also, my experience is somewhat dated, but having followed the conversations on this site, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

One of the big hurdles is Canadian citizenship.  I had a Brit trying to join, and at that time, the citizenship requirement was the first Go/No Go test.  Since he did not have Citizenship, we could not get him into the system.  As soon as he received his citizenship, the system kicked in.

Another hurdle is the criminal record check, and the background check for the time you were (out of the country - Edit out) not living in Canada.  The rules have changed over the years, but it still takes time for the checks to take place.  You may have to initiate some yourself.

Another hurdle is having your previous service reviewed.  The unit will need copy of course reports and/ or qualification records.  These will be submitted to the review authorities, usually Subject Matter Experts at Army/Navy/Airforce HQ, who will evaluate the qualifications, and experience, and provide an equivalency.  This is a process that has seen a number of revisions over the years.  Sometimes this process can be done while the recruiting screening process is on-going, and at other times the authorities refuse to consider the matter until after enrollment.

I've seen this process happen quickly - an allied CF-18 pilot on an exchange posting to a Canadian CF-18 squadron who wanted to join the RCAF.  Normally it takes some time, as the HQ authorities make contact with someone who can provide current information on the equivalent Canadian qualifications of the foreign military experience and qualifications under review.

I've seen a former US Marine join a reserve unit - he had to provide info that he was not liable for further US Marine Reserve service, but this was done quickly from the US side, and his processing was as quick (or as slow) as the other applicants applying at the same time.  In his case, the review of qualifications and experience was completed after enrollment, and was done quickly.

Hope this helps.

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