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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2007, 12:58:53 »
Meridian, HQ9'er, thanks for the info. Every little bit helps. Just been informed I might get my prior pay rate (Cpl.) which will help quite a bit. It's about $175 a week more. (However, I have been on the receiving end of pay foul ups before...so best to be prepared for the lowest pay rate.)

Mainz, I'll see you there (hopefully).

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2007, 15:09:16 »
Over the course of a weekend BMQ would you make as much as you would during a Summer BMQ? Just been curious because I don't wanna be bummed out if my recruiting officer can't slip me in for the summer :D The money would help me get my first car haha so anyways any info would be coool :D
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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2007, 15:47:57 »
You get paid by the day.  A weekend does not equal a whole summer.
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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2007, 16:31:30 »
Sweet, tyvm sir. Oh, I'm not to sure if you misunderstood, I ment does the pay for a full weekend BMQ course equal the pay for a full summer BMQ course, like in the end of both BMQs would two people one on each course, have made the same ammount?
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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2007, 18:41:03 »
yes it will..you might get less money at the end because since you contract full time is over a moths worth it...you have a few more extra pay day.

at least that is what happenned in our case...

I just finished BMQ and I'm getting 5 more pay day... 2 week end, 2 more day for annual and 1 more day for holiday (which is Monday for Quebec)

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2007, 07:41:27 »
I am going to take my iap/botc for DEO either this AUgust or next year however I don't know if I will get paid biweekly as an 2nd Lt or lower?

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2007, 09:07:53 »
Ask your recruiter, they will be able to tell you exactly how much, based on your personal details.  Nothing beats information from the horses mouth.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2007, 10:31:03 »
Catherine,

You will be sworn in and appointed OCdt and paid at that rate (monthly alloted bi-weekly) approx 1273/Month less rations and quarters and other good old mandatory deductions CPP/QPP (thats right QPP for the time you are in Que) and son on, upon completion of whichever Phase DEO Candidates are commissioned (I'm honestly not too sure if its the end of IAP/BOTC as CEOTP applicants or different for some reason) you will be commisoned 2lt and paid as a 2lt and backpaid from the day you swear in (if it states the effective date of commsioning to be your swearing in date on the offer/msg) I am assuming you have no previous service so you would be paid as 2Lt Cat C pay incentive 0, if however you do have previous service in the rank of Cpl or above you will be paid as 2Lt Cat D IPC 0, I could be of the mark a little as our situations a different but CBI 204.211 (linked below) Refers, feel free to pm me if some of this is unclear.

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http://www.dnd.ca/dgcb/cbi/engraph/home_e.asp?sidesection=6&Section=204.211&sidecat=21&Chapter=204#204.211

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2007, 14:59:53 »
At the end of BMOQ (BOTP) you will be eligible for commissioning.

I have heard some CEOTP are not eligible for commission until they are done thier phase training.  And I know this is fact cause I did a course with someone who was like that.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #59 on: July 28, 2007, 15:07:27 »
I can second that; know a CEOTP pilot that remained an Ocdt until he was winged. But the catch was that he went directly to Lt. and received all his 2Lt. backpay in a lump sum; sorta like a forced savings plan. Also he was to remain Lt. for 8 months longer than the DEO/ROTP folk before being promoted to captain, don't think any back pay is involved in that one.
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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #60 on: July 28, 2007, 15:40:46 »
It is indeed situation dependant and is spelled out on the offer/aceptance msg I should have been a little more clear and said that in MY CASE (all being different with the entry plans and previous service and so on and so on) the msg stated commsioning upon completion of botp ph ii (botc) with effective date of the day of my appt to OCdt. but as for catherine your best bet indeed is to speak to your recruiter, I gave you my BEST GUESS and that is all it is. Cheers

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #61 on: July 28, 2007, 15:42:11 »
I can say that ROTP is backpayed to the EPZ....

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #62 on: July 28, 2007, 16:15:00 »
Arty, will I being seeing you at the mega come sept? You can guide a new fish like me through the process!
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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #63 on: July 28, 2007, 17:36:08 »
I'll be there on 25 Aug first thing in the morn, what srl are you loaded on I'm on 0072e

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2007, 09:37:45 »
Now...REMEMBER this is DEO pay.

I can tell you that the DEO Nursing Officer's, as an example, do NOT come in at OCdt pay level as for ROTP types...

Small detail but very important...it depends on the MOC the original poster is going for and her qual's....

Catherine what MOC are you shooting for?

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2007, 10:07:41 »
Call your recruitment centre.  I am entering the army as a DEO, and my letter of enrolment has the following two lines in it:

Pay rate - 2Lt Incentive Pay Level 2
Rank worn - OCdt (until BMOQ is successfully passed)

I suspect every situation will vary.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2007, 11:30:44 »
My situation is simaler,

Appointed OCdt, Commissioning to 2Lt upon completion of BMOQ with an effective date of 15 April (2Lt Level D IPC 4) Current rate of pay as an OCdt - CPL IPC 4 (Vested right to pay and all) which I suspect is the same in your case, unless of course you already have your commissioning scroll from the Governor General, if thats the case however I'm way out in left field.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2007, 22:53:08 »
This CEOTP confusion is really starting to annoy me. In the end, Im basically going through the motions to get a letter to see what it says, since Recruiting seems unable to be entirely certain.

The old OCTP program commissioned following MOC training, but effective date of Commission was 9 months after enrollment OR end MOC, which ever was earliest.   So you get most (not all, unless BOMQ takes 9 months for you for some reason) of the pay back and most (not all) of the time-in-rank.

CEOTP replaces OCTP.   The Adm (mil) direction states that CEOTP commissions following completion of basic officer training.   No more specificity.
I wish I could figure out who to ask for a formal answer on this, because the CFRC seems to believe in all cases it is as it was for OCTP, but clearly this is not the case.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2007, 21:05:42 »
My situation is simaler,

Appointed OCdt, Commissioning to 2Lt upon completion of BMOQ with an effective date of 15 April (2Lt Level D IPC 4) Current rate of pay as an OCdt - CPL IPC 4 (Vested right to pay and all) which I suspect is the same in your case, unless of course you already have your commissioning scroll from the Governor General, if thats the case however I'm way out in left field.

I have no comission as of yet, but was sworn in today and confirmed I will be paid exactly as I mentioned.  In the room were several different cases who were all being paid at different levels, confirming that the only pay statement to trust is the one which comes from the recruiting centre.  I was quite impressed at the variety of fields of life people came from.  Anyway, good luck to us all.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2007, 21:30:47 »
shorinsakka,

All DEO candidates are commissioned following BOTP/BOMQ. I've yet to hear any stories where someone wasn't.

The difference is for those without a degree.. it seems, at least from reading here, that those with former service via CEOTP receive commission the same as DEO.   ROTP and everyone else wait until MOC qualified, though ROTP only receive once their degree is complete.

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2007, 21:46:47 »
Good plan shorinsakka, although I have found the only pay statement to trust is the one that comes in the mail (or email nowadays) and even then it can sometimes be sketchy. See you in the Mega

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2007, 15:31:50 »
shorinsakka,

All DEO candidates are commissioned following BOTP/BOMQ. I've yet to hear any stories where someone wasn't.

The difference is for those without a degree.. it seems, at least from reading here, that those with former service via CEOTP receive commission the same as DEO.   ROTP and everyone else wait until MOC qualified, though ROTP only receive once their degree is complete.


ROTP receive their commission once degree is complete, not after MOC qualified...

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2007, 19:01:57 »
QUAG,

That's what I said...

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Re: Monthly Pay after deductions - Questions [Merged]
« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2007, 19:24:54 »
ROTP and everyone else wait until MOC qualified...
Sorry, I must have misinterpreted this part...