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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #225 on: July 04, 2017, 17:06:54 »
Can perm residents in Canada with US citizenship enlist (not joint citizenship)?

To apply to the Forces, you must:
1.Be a Canadian Citizen.
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #226 on: July 05, 2017, 00:42:42 »
To apply to the Forces, you must:
1.Be a Canadian Citizen.
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who

yeah ive seen that.......issue is that isn't true if this is also true.......

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/permanent-canadian-residents-who-are-member-of-the-military-to-be-fast-tracked-for-citizenship

you cant not allow PR and yet have PR already in......math doesn't add.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #227 on: July 05, 2017, 00:58:01 »
In extenuating circumstances some members  have been enrolled with PR status. However, in 2014 I do believe there  were approximately 60 members with pr status in the entire CF.


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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #228 on: July 05, 2017, 02:09:29 »
In extenuating circumstances some members  have been enrolled with PR status. However, in 2014 I do believe there  were approximately 60 members with pr status in the entire CF.


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DAOD 5002-1  Enrollment  Part 3
Citizenship

3.3 An applicant is required to be:

    a Canadian citizen; or
    a citizen of another country who has permanent resident status under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and:
        undertakes to become a Canadian citizen immediately when eligible to do so;
        provides service that satisfies a special need; and
        whose enrolment, in the opinion of the Commander (Comd) Canadian Forces Recruiting Group (CFRG), would not prejudice the national interest.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-defence-admin-orders-directives-5000/5002-1.page#qe

One issue is that a person must maintain permanent resident status.  PR Status may be lost if a refugee returns to visit their home country (demonstrating they no longer require protection) or apply for a passport from their home country.  Permanent Residents must be physically present for two years within five years on the day the determination is made.  The residency requirement for citizenship is a fixed period in Bill C-24 currently six years previous to day of application in Bill C-6 the act about to come into force its 3 years in the five year period previous to the day of application.  I have sworn serving members of the CF as Canadian citizens. 


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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #229 on: July 05, 2017, 02:13:19 »

DAOD 5002-1  Enrollment  Part 3
Citizenship

3.3 An applicant is required to be:

    a Canadian citizen; or
    a citizen of another country who has permanent resident status under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and:
        undertakes to become a Canadian citizen immediately when eligible to do so;
        provides service that satisfies a special need; and
        whose enrolment, in the opinion of the Commander (Comd) Canadian Forces Recruiting Group (CFRG), would not prejudice the national interest.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-defence-admin-orders-directives-5000/5002-1.page#qe
Yes, that's the DAOD reference. Thanks.


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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #230 on: July 05, 2017, 09:43:08 »
Good Morning,

Joining the CAF as a PR requires a Citizenship Waiver.  About the only times citizenship waivers are completed is for occupations where the CAF is having difficulty enrolling Canadian Citizens into the occupation; the other caveat is that the person must be fully qualified in Canada to do the job.  (i.e. a Foreign Medical Officer would not be given a Citizenship Waiver as they're not qualified in Canada to practice but a Foreign Pilot who is fully qualified to fly would be eligible for a Citizenship Waiver).

I can tell you from experience that about the only occupation currently being entertained for foreign (i.e. non-citizens) applicants is Pilot.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #231 on: July 05, 2017, 17:07:06 »
Here is a Naval Commander being presented his Canadian Citizenship on January 31 2014. 
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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #232 on: July 05, 2017, 17:31:20 »
Good Morning,

Joining the CAF as a PR requires a Citizenship Waiver.  About the only times citizenship waivers are completed is for occupations where the CAF is having difficulty enrolling Canadian Citizens into the occupation; the other caveat is that the person must be fully qualified in Canada to do the job.  (i.e. a Foreign Medical Officer would not be given a Citizenship Waiver as they're not qualified in Canada to practice but a Foreign Pilot who is fully qualified to fly would be eligible for a Citizenship Waiver).

I can tell you from experience that about the only occupation currently being entertained for foreign (i.e. non-citizens) applicants is Pilot.

I've seen it done for SOF as well, but that's a little more case by case basis.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #233 on: September 23, 2017, 10:02:07 »
Hello all, I'm 34 years old woman who is new landed PR and want to join CF, I have foreign nurse education, I heard about citizenship waiver for PR, but I made some calls with a few recruiting officers that they said only citizenship can apply, so any advice? Thanks!

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #234 on: September 23, 2017, 10:08:28 »
My advice would be to listen to the recruiting officers who said only citizens can apply... If that info is directly from a Recruiting Centre, it is the most accurate information you'll get.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #235 on: September 23, 2017, 10:27:50 »
Welcome to Army.ca, secammo

Very few exceptions are ever made to the citizenship requirements, and only for narrowly specific reasons. You'll have to obtain that first, as I did several decades ago. They pushed it through for me in half of the normal time back then, as I'd told them that I was applying to the Regular Force (I was a Reservist, at the time; British citizenship was acceptable for that back then).

While you are waiting for that, start exploring this Site. There is much valuable information available in existing threads. Learn from that.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #236 on: September 23, 2017, 10:47:48 »
In addition to the very good advice already posted, if you want to join as a nurse you will need to have a valid licence to practice from a Canadian nursing authority.
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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #237 on: October 04, 2017, 14:38:19 »
Good Day,

In addition to the above I can tell you that citizenship waivers are not currently being entertained for Nursing Officer at the moment; and likely will not be an occupation that is considered for a waiver.

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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #238 on: August 09, 2018, 20:17:19 »
I am a PR in canada , Backgrounded South Korea.
i have been living in canada for more then 10 years.
i wanted to join the regular force but ive noticed that only citizen`s can join it.
is it true? is there no chance for pr to join the regular force?
and i also want to know if i can join the reserve force .
currently 22 years old , finished highschool till grade 12 , dont have the diploma , but attended first year college and mature student
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Re: Enroll Permanent Resident / Naturalized Citizen
« Reply #239 on: August 10, 2018, 00:02:47 »
Taken directly from the Recruiting home page:


Am I eligible?

Let’s start with the basics. To start a full or part-time career in the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) you must:

  -  be a Canadian citizen
  -  be at least 18 years old (17 years old with parental consent), except:
      -  For the Paid Education programs—you may be 16 years old (with parental consent)
      -  For the Primary Reserves—you may be 16 years old (with parental consent) and must be enrolled as a full-time student
   - have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV in Québec (some jobs need higher levels of education)
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