Author Topic: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016  (Read 222330 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Fishbone Jones

    MSC -6945.

  • "Some people will only like you if you fit inside their box. Don't be afraid to shove that box up their ass."
  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Myth
  • *
  • 280,347
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 18,672
    • Army.ca
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #75 on: June 25, 2011, 20:08:57 »
You're in the right Forum (Training). Now, if you look at some of the topics listed here, or do a search, there's an extremely good chance that all your questions have already been answered. Have a look around, you'll be suprised what you'll find.

Welcome to Millnet.

Milnet.ca Staff
Corruption in politics doesn't scare me.
What scares me is how comfortable people are doing nothing about it.

Offline MidnightSun82

  • Guest
  • *
  • 60
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 3
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2011, 08:04:16 »
Thanks.  I already searched a bit and the information seems to be all over the place.  I think I'll call Fort York so I can get a clear idea.

It won't be easy asking my employer for 2-3 months off during the summer.  I just wanted the exact amount of weeks needed.

Offline NinerSix

    is getting the itch to deploy.

  • Has been
  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 316,391
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 1,054
  • Retired!
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2011, 08:28:37 »
Some training can be done over week ends. Such as BMOQ, basic training for officers.

You also might want to Google the Canadian Forces Liaison Council for help with your employer.
The process is not the mission.

Offline MidnightSun82

  • Guest
  • *
  • 60
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 3
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #78 on: June 26, 2011, 11:13:36 »
Thanks NinerSix.

I work for the Federal Government.  There is a policy stating that an employee can have leave without pay for military service / training.  This aspect is covered.   The leadership or officer course (don't know the exact term) taking place during the summer is a few months (?) and this means a pay cut for me!  I need to save up enough dough to pay my mortgage during that time! :)


Offline Nauticus

  • Full Member
  • *****
  • 7,595
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 397
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2011, 14:54:39 »
Thanks NinerSix.

I work for the Federal Government.  There is a policy stating that an employee can have leave without pay for military service / training.  This aspect is covered.   The leadership or officer course (don't know the exact term) taking place during the summer is a few months (?) and this means a pay cut for me!  I need to save up enough dough to pay my mortgage during that time! :)
Well, the other option, like someone else said, is take it on weekends if it's available.
"Fate guides who will; who won't, it drags."

Offline Redeye

    Living The Afghan National Army Dream...

  • Banned
  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *
  • 46,170
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 2,208
  • Hope Is Not A Method
    • The Unofficial Website of the Hastings & Prince Edward Regiment
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2011, 15:04:35 »
In either trade, the only courses that will be available to you on weekends are BMQ and possibly whatever BOTP is called now.  CAP/BMOQ(L) and your trade course are residential courses, both conducted in Gagetown, and you'll need to take time off work to do them.  They are in two week modules, but if you can't get more time than two weeks off each time, you're looking at a very long time to get qualified.  BMOQ(L) is 11 weeks IIRC, DP1.1 for Infantry is 13, for Armoured is 13 as well I think.
Palma Non Sine Pulvere - Nothing Worth Having Comes Easily!

Offline mariomike

  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *
  • 513,465
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9,578
    • The job.
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2011, 15:22:00 »
This may be of interest.
Canada Labour Code
"Leave of Absence for Members of the Reserve Force":
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/L-2/page-103.html#h-98


Offline CanadianTire

  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • 10,234
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 824
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2011, 09:59:50 »
You may also have the option of using vacation time, depending on your department's policy and how much vacation you have. The private sector company that I work for allows unused vacation to carry over. At the start of this year I ended up having way too much vacation time, and so used some of it for our brigade ex.
"Theirs not to reason why/Theirs but to do and die." - Tennyson

Ice97

  • Guest
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #83 on: July 01, 2011, 04:05:57 »
i am a 40 yr old architect that has thought a lot about this and would be interested in joining the military. is there any chance in hell? i want to go into the fray and not essentially be a paper pusher. i want to serve. let and augment my skills. do something real and worthy. thoughts?

Age has nothing to do with it as long as you are fit enough to capibly do the job.  My friend is on his 1st tour and 42 years old.

Offline toyotatundra

  • Member
  • ****
  • 1,520
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 114
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2011, 04:28:07 »
There is at least one officer at my unit who started his career at your age. He is physically fit, and articulate. I feel secure under his command.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2011, 04:53:24 by toyotatundra »

Offline BernDawg

  • Wood Butcher
  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • 11,695
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 999
  • Retired... workin' harder than ever!
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2011, 22:09:44 »
I would imagine that an Architect would be a perfect fit here.

http://www.forces.ca/en/job/constructionengineeringofficer-42

I spent 11 yrs in the Construction Engineers and have now moved on to another construction related job. I've met several mature Lieutenants durinf my career and had a tremendous amount of respect for them.

Whatever you choose, good luck and God-speed
"We can't all be heroes... because someone has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by."  Will Rogers
Someone has to be last.  At least if it's me I know where all the assholes are.

Offline Renwick

  • Guest
  • *
  • 360
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 18
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2011, 16:43:59 »
This post makes me feel a lot better about my current situation.  I am 29 and have just been accepted to RMC in order to become an artillery officer.... put my mind at ease... thank you.  ;D

Offline Pusser

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 88,200
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 2,870
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #87 on: July 18, 2011, 15:11:53 »
This is a very hard adjustment to make, you will be eating crap food, have pretty crap living conditions and not a whole lot of personal space or privacy.   

I take great offence to that statement!  The CF spends a lot of time, effort and money on food services and our food services are second to none.

Anyone who has difficulty living in close quarters with little privacy should look elsewhere for a career.  There are many situations all across the military, particularly at sea or in the field where quarters will be tight and privacy virtually non-existent.  Get used to it and learn to accept it or else life will be very difficult.
Sure, apes read Nietzsche.  They just don't understand it.

Offline Rebel232

  • Guest
  • *
  • 10
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 1
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2011, 05:22:53 »
 :yellow:
« Last Edit: August 12, 2011, 06:48:52 by Rebel232 »

Offline tree hugger

  • Hug a Betula allegeniensis.
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • 6,155
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 452
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2011, 07:08:52 »
If you're federal public service there is also a 'leave with pay' option.
Always behave like a duck.   Remain cool and unruffled on the surface but paddle like the dickens underneath.

Offline Class-Senior

  • Guest
  • *
  • 1,350
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 17
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #90 on: August 12, 2011, 07:32:07 »
I am also a Federal Government worker during the day and have been a Reserve Officer for about a year now. I can confirm the following:
- the only course run on weekends is BMQ (first part of BMOQ for you). the rest you will be taking time off to attend. The next courses (you indicated Land Forces Officer) are BMOQ Mod 2 (three weeks) and CAP (10 weeks = 5 x 2 week sections which can be taken separate but, everyone will recommend you do them together).
- Paid or Unpaid military leave will be at the discretion of your department. If your a civilian at DND, you have a much better chance at getting the paid leave. It is possible in any department but, it took me almost a year to get it approved. I started working on the paid leave option before I was sworn in to the forces. Find the leave category in your pay system and start talking to an HR rep (and your boss) in your department. The paid option will require a fairly senior authorization level and most likely a letter from your CO.
- My application process was over a year. The forces will ensure you really want them as part of your life.

I hope this helps you. For others that read this, it is written in Aug 2011 and over time course names, times, and leave approval info may change.

BTW - so far, it has definitely been worth it.

Offline mariomike

  • Directing Staff
  • Army.ca Fixture
  • *
  • 513,465
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 9,578
    • The job.

Offline Pusser

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 88,200
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 2,870
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2011, 12:26:43 »
Thanks NinerSix.

I work for the Federal Government.  There is a policy stating that an employee can have leave without pay for military service / training.  This aspect is covered.   The leadership or officer course (don't know the exact term) taking place during the summer is a few months (?) and this means a pay cut for me!  I need to save up enough dough to pay my mortgage during that time! :)

On the bright side, although you may take a pay cut while training full time, you will be bringing in extra money for the evening a weekend training that you will do a lot of the time as well.
Sure, apes read Nietzsche.  They just don't understand it.

Offline Blacksmith

  • Guest
  • *
  • 700
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 10
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #93 on: January 11, 2012, 20:05:19 »
Hey everyone.
I'm a few weeks away from being sworn in, and was wondering how much flack I might expect to recieve during BMQ and SQ.
I've been away from the military for over 20 years, which means that some of the recruits I'll be training with will not have been born when I mustered out.
Does anyone here have any experience with this sort of thing? I'm not worried about harrassment (I don't think anyone would deliberately undermine my effort to serve) but I'm sure there will be a certain amount of good natured ribbing.
Though I may be wrong about harrassment and undermining....

Either way, I'm looking forward to it. An adventure at 48! Should be fun.
"In war, events of importance are the result of trivial causes. "
Julius Caesar

Offline PMedMoe

    is retired and loving it!

  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Legend
  • *
  • 257,670
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 10,455
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #94 on: January 11, 2012, 20:24:31 »
They'll call you "Dad".   :nod:
"A good traveler has no fixed plans, and is not intent on arriving".
~ Lao Tzu~

Offline GAP

  • Semper Fi
  • Army.ca Subscriber
  • Army.ca Legend
  • *
  • 214,030
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 12,957
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #95 on: January 11, 2012, 20:25:40 »
They'll call you "Dad".   :nod:

or "Pops"
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe

Offline fauntania

  • New Member
  • **
  • 690
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 31
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #96 on: January 11, 2012, 20:29:10 »
Does this mean at 40, I'll be "Mom"?  *chuckle*  I'm starting BMQ January 23rd!

You're not the only "older type person" joining up!
 ::)

Offline MJP

  • Army.ca Veteran
  • *****
  • 166,945
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 3,488
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #97 on: January 11, 2012, 20:31:49 »
We hate older people, they don't cry for attention and they have work ethic (well some do).  Plus they don't seem to cry when they get in jacked up.  Horrible people all of them...
Hope is not a valid COA

Offline Fatalize

  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • 2,405
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 75
  • 1RCHA - Ubique
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #98 on: January 11, 2012, 20:32:49 »
You can reflect on how much easier it is this time and call them lucky :warstory:  I would not worry about it tho, the age/gender/race differences on my BMQ never seemed to be a problem.
The best part of waking up, is ...FIRE MISSION BATTERY.

Offline Blacksmith

  • Guest
  • *
  • 700
  • Rate Post
  • Posts: 10
Re: Am I too old, fat, or fit in? 2001 to 2016
« Reply #99 on: January 11, 2012, 21:02:17 »
or "Pops"

Yeah a friend of mine said "don't be surprised if they call you the 'course senior citizen'". I thought that was pretty funny.
"In war, events of importance are the result of trivial causes. "
Julius Caesar