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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2019, 16:21:56 »
The entire FN stock was cut for scrap a few years ago.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #176 on: May 21, 2019, 16:28:43 »
I forgot about my last post.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #177 on: May 21, 2019, 16:48:10 »
Last fired that fine antitank weapon in 1978. If there was a 3 round magazine it one in the tube and one in each pocket.  I remember it did wobble in flight and was surprised when it hit the hard target.
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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #178 on: May 21, 2019, 17:24:33 »
The first (bottom) two rounds in the magazine had wooden warheads. The third (top) round had a standard HEAT warhed.

The technique involved working one's way around to the back of the bunker, then firing the first two rounds at the door in rapid succession.

When an occupant opened the door to see who had just made a loud "knock-knock" sound, one could then fire the HEAT round directly inside.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #179 on: May 22, 2019, 13:24:59 »
Heh.

Wish I had a mag-fed Bazooka.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #180 on: May 22, 2019, 16:12:55 »
The entire FN stock was cut for scrap a few years ago.

The Russians are shaking their heads, I would not be surprised if they have large stocks of M1867 Russian Krnka covered in cosmoline.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #181 on: May 22, 2019, 16:37:26 »
The entire FN stock was cut for scrap a few years ago.



If we can do this to perfectly serviceable M109s cutting up a bunch of rifles is nothing.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #182 on: May 22, 2019, 17:18:29 »
Too war like to have.
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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #183 on: May 22, 2019, 19:55:52 »
Too war like to have.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #185 on: July 19, 2019, 22:38:57 »
Neat.  My C1A1 is serial number 8L2369...these two rifles were probably built the same day. 

http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/cgnmilsurpknowledgebase/fn1a1vsfnl1a1vsfnc1a1

(And by 'my' C1A1, I mean the legally registered 12(5) rifle that currently resides in my safe in the basement.)

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #186 on: July 20, 2019, 07:43:25 »
Very interesting and informative video.

I was in the first recruit course in the RCA Depot not issued Lee-Enfields and trained exclusively on the C1. We were the first squad to commence training in 1958. A few of the squads that preceded ours were retained in Shilo for a few weeks to convert to the C1. Considering that this was the Canadian Army, I'm not sure whether the emphasis was on marksmanship and fieldcraft or drill. Just kidding, I think.

On my basic para in Rivers we used some of the old FALs, probably on the principle that it didn't matter how hard they were used and thumped around.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #187 on: July 20, 2019, 14:32:59 »
Very interesting and informative video.

I was in the first recruit course in the RCA Depot not issued Lee-Enfields and trained exclusively on the C1. We were the first squad to commence training in 1958. A few of the squads that preceded ours were retained in Shilo for a few weeks to convert to the C1. Considering that this was the Canadian Army, I'm not sure whether the emphasis was on marksmanship and fieldcraft or drill. Just kidding, I think.

On my basic para in Rivers we used some of the old FALs, probably on the principle that it didn't matter how hard they were used and thumped around.

Was the new rifle drill already in effect or was there a period of confused transition?

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #188 on: July 20, 2019, 14:48:50 »
I don't recall seeing anyone do slope arms with a FN/FAL. Otherwise the drill is similar.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #189 on: July 20, 2019, 15:02:05 »
Was the new rifle drill already in effect or was there a period of confused transition?

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I did my basic para in 1968, so the FN had been in service for more than a decade.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #190 on: July 20, 2019, 15:08:52 »
I don't recall seeing anyone do slope arms with a FN/FAL. Otherwise the drill is similar.

Correct, so we went to carrying the rifle at the shoulder. The original present arms was a two step movement: the first step was to move the rifle out in front of the body with the right arm; while moving the left arm out to catch the foregrip. In a year or so we went to the three step movement.

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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #191 on: July 20, 2019, 16:27:54 »
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Re: The FN C1 - Service Rifle of the Past (and C7A1 vs FN C1A1)
« Reply #192 on: July 22, 2019, 08:36:09 »
From CAMT 2-2 (1959)

There are a few FNs still floating around as trophy pieces.  Saw a FN and the good old SMG from the same period that was stainless steal plated (??), at least it looked like that material, and used as a competition trophy.  There was a unit presented with one a couple years ago in a display case that is in the Sgts and WOs mess. 
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