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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #375 on: February 27, 2017, 09:25:47 »
SQ no longer exists, the course has been altered a bit, and is now called BMQ-Land.  As an Armoured Soldier, you will attend this course after BMQ.

Cool! Thanks for the reply and the information.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #376 on: May 21, 2017, 12:46:37 »
Fresh off the boat, one might say.

 I have slept the first night in my own bed post completion of BMQ-L serial 0546. Typically this news would hardly be worthy of a post. However, seeing as I was the only Master Corporal in attendance on the course as a candidate, I believe I might have some perspective to offer up and coming would be future candidates.


 When I first attempted an SQ course back in 2009 I made it partially through. Due to a sustained foot injury, I was returned to CFB Borden and was encouraged to attempt the training at a later date. Subsequently, I received QL3 training for MSE Op shortly after and was given an initial posting to 19 Wing Comox. During my 8 years of paradise posting on the beautiful eastern shores of Vancouver Island, I made the inquiry about a possible SQ reattempt. The powers that be did not see the training as pertinent to my career. Perhaps there was a slight disconnect between the known needs of the typical blue wearing beret folks and that of a green. Regardless, my career rolled forward and in the spring of 2016 I was advised of my promotion and posting to CFLTC as an instructor for future QL3 MSE Op candidates at the Transport Cadre.

 So, we all know we have to take responsibility for our own careers, right? Well, evidently I dropped the ball... I came to Borden anticipating a course loading on a PLQ. After more than 6 months of pestering my CoC it was revealed that due to my lack of BMQ-L qualification, I was not eligible to initiate PLQ training. If it wasn't so funny I would cry. The skeleton in my closet revealed was great ammunition for jest amongst the guys at work as you can imagine. Comments like "Man, we were willing to give you pass, not being PLQ qualified... But not even qualified soldier... who is this leaf wearing imposter!"


 Anyway, the writing was on the wall and the great green machine had made its verdict known. I was course loaded on BMQ-L slated for start date of 24 April and end date 19 May 2017. Preparation for this course on my part included maintaining a regular routine at the gym, regular weekly ruck marching, procurement of all items kit related. WRT to my physical conditioning, I would have to be honest, and say I didn't do enough... I am 41 years old and the requirements physically of this course to complete it with ease a free of injury would dictate that you be at a level of exceptional conditioning for my age group. On the rucking front, I would say I barely met the ideal conditioning level. In retrospect, I should have been rucking double what I was with significantly more weight in order to prepare for the routine load of tac-vest, frag vest with training plates, rucksack loaded to 40 lbs and carrying C9/C6 without sling more than 10 km per day. The kit procurement aspect was a bit daunting, to say the least. Finding relevant joining instructions which included the proper kit list for this course is a chore and half. A multitude of broken or missing links and unmaintained websites add significantly to the frustration. For anyone who cares to obtain the kit list I went off of, please feel free to send me a pm.


 The course its self, was as named, basic. The content is intended for the newly enlisted member. It strives to develop confidence in various weapon systems including C9, C6, C7, frag grenade, M72 and comms equipment including field phone and radio. At times it seemed the training was fast and furious and others it seemed to be stalled and arduous. As an instructor myself I fully appreciate that flexibility in scheduling often results in training lulls and fire hose delivery. Importance throughout the 20 days of training is certainly targeted at the team building aspect. Standards of inspection and deportment were such that individualism was not an advisable approach. My daily routine while in Edmonton Garrison went as followed. Up by no later than 0430, just because I am an early riser and hate having to share the shaving sink with the mad horde of guys who thought to sleep in a few extra mins was the responsible thing to do. Prepare my bed space and layout for the daily inspection between 0445 and 0515. On PT mornings, which were nearly all mornings, we would either go for a fast paced sprint/run or a rucksac run/march. I made a point of going to breakfast daily without exception. I know of a few individuals who thought skipping breakfast was a good idea. They would skip the meal in order to have more time to work on kit or make up for time lost hitting the snooze button. Personally, I believe if you can't peel yourself off the bed in the morning early enough to have a bowl of oatmeal then your day has already started on a less than positive note. After physical training and inspections were complete our course would make the 3km march to the training facility. Classes typically got underway by 0800. The population of the course was broken down into 4 sections. Each section had its own section IC and 2 IC. While in garrison the course did all relevant training specific to the various weapon systems. Intermittently, we would have a day on the range to confirm the specific systems training.

 
 The field portion of the training platform is where the rubber meets the road. All the prior training is employed in various scenarios. From the construction of stage 6 trenches to recce patrol theory and introduction to section attacks, the field portion covered it. Many people on the course found the field portion to be challenging and character defining. As anyone who knows can attest, after 48 hours of sleepless constant activity, the true colours of folks personality and stamina start to become apparent. Adding to the mix the uncertainty of Wainwright weather systems, you have the perfect recipe for some individuals to question their resolve and life choices as it pertains to their military career, albeit in its infancy.  Then just as quickly as it began, BMQ-L serial 0546 came to a conclusion. We had a few losses along the way. Those who were unable to complete the course were those who suffered either from pre-existing medical circumstances or injury sustained while training. I cannot emphasize enough, to complete the course free of injury and with relative ease, you must as with all military training be in optimal physical and mental shape. 
In point form, I would offer the following as my top suggestions for the upcoming candidate.

•   Acquire a kit list that is specific to the course you are taking. There are variances between summer and winter month requirements.
•   Be in optimal physical shape. If running or digging for prolonged periods is not a strength of yours at present, you have work to do before you go.
•   Be mentally resilient and mature enough to understand the way team dynamics work. If you take every bit of criticism, be it constructive or not, to heart than likely this course will push you beyond your present limitations.
•   View the course as 20 training days. That weekend’s break up those 20 training days is not relevant.  You are on basic military course and having a weekend off is certainly not an entitlement. In the event your course is afforded some free time on a weekend, use the time to catch up on rest and personal chores you had been putting off.
•   Do not be afraid to put voice to the facts you know… But spare us all your opinion. Your opinion is your decided preferable interpretation of something which you have not the factual or complete knowledge to speak definitively about.

That is all.
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #377 on: May 21, 2017, 13:02:24 »
I'm sure there is a lot of great information in that wall of text, but some paragraphs would really help make it actually readable.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #378 on: May 21, 2017, 20:22:27 »
Deck you guys  were allowed to skip breakfast? When I did my SQ course 13 years ago we were told it was a chargeable offensive to miss a meal. No way we could even try because we were march to our meals. Was wondering did  the rules changed or something. Sorry you guys getting to decided whether to go for breakfast or not really stuck out.
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #379 on: May 22, 2017, 12:30:53 »
Fake Penguin,

That I recall no one specifically laid down the law that breakfast meal must be attended. We as a course were instructed to make our way to and from the dining hall in at least groups of two and no larger than groups of four. Perhaps the expectation was that people were mature enough to recognize such a physically demanding course would dictate the necessity to maintain a regular diet. For the most part, the other two meals of the day were chaperoned by the marching NCO of the day.

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SQ 2018
« Reply #380 on: April 10, 2018, 09:57:49 »
Hey,

I'll be returning from PATA leave in a few weeks and before I can begin my training for my new trade I have to complete SQ. I was hoping that someone might have some insight into possible course dates and/or locations for SQ this summer. I am currently posted in Halifax so I am hoping for a Aldershot or Gagetown course.

Thanks
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #381 on: July 01, 2018, 11:05:03 »
Set to do BMQ-L in Valcartier in August and I have a few questions. The kit list I received seems like a generic kit list including a combination of both summer and winter kit. I have all of the winter whites but mukluks and snowshoes I do not. If supply can't/won't give them to me is it just as simple as me mentioning that if asked on course or do I need something in writing from supply?

I was also wondering what the following were that are also on my kit list;

- Complete Polar Kit CADPAT
- Passe Montagne (Vert)
- Bousolle Silva de votre quartuer maire (or maine. Page is smudged)

Also what are the chances of me getting jacked for having SWATs?


The last two don't have English translations. My entire kit list is French translated to English so its been a hassle to say the least.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #382 on: July 02, 2018, 09:28:50 »
Set to do BMQ-L in Valcartier in August and I have a few questions. The kit list I received seems like a generic kit list including a combination of both summer and winter kit. I have all of the winter whites but mukluks and snowshoes I do not. If supply can't/won't give them to me is it just as simple as me mentioning that if asked on course or do I need something in writing from supply?

I was also wondering what the following were that are also on my kit list;

- Complete Polar Kit CADPAT
- Passe Montagne (Vert)
- Bousolle Silva de votre quartuer maire (or maine. Page is smudged)

Also what are the chances of me getting jacked for having SWATs?


The last two don't have English translations. My entire kit list is French translated to English so its been a hassle to say the least.

The first one sounds like the Polar Fleece sweater and pants or it could also mean your ICE/IECS parka/wind pants/bib overalls, the last one is a compass and the second item doesn't seem to make sense "Mountain pass (green)"
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #383 on: July 04, 2018, 20:28:38 »
Been a very long time since I've gone through an army ran course. Going to BMQ-L, what are the chances of me getting jacked up for wearing SWATs? The only other boots I have are the issued side zips.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #384 on: July 04, 2018, 20:37:03 »
Been a very long time since I've gone through an army ran course. Going to BMQ-L, what are the chances of me getting jacked up for wearing SWATs? The only other boots I have are the issued side zips.

Considering the gongshow boots are in the CAF are, they'll probably think they're issued.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #385 on: July 04, 2018, 20:37:11 »
7% chance you'll catch flak for it, 93% no one will care.

The CAF screwed up boots so bad most people don't care. 

Bring your issued pair just incase.
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #386 on: July 04, 2018, 21:04:21 »
Sounds like a plan.

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #387 on: August 06, 2018, 16:43:04 »
How does our FORCEs test work in terms of validity? I'm going on SQ and in the joining instructions it says I need a valid FORCEs test. Mine was due July 2018 however I am still yellow on my DAG and not red. Someone mentioned to me that it is good for all of 2018 but I don't really want to take their word for it because they tend to talk without knowing much generally. I am unable to get the test completed before I go on course (next week). Is this something that they are gonna RTU me for?

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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #388 on: August 06, 2018, 16:46:14 »
How does our FORCEs test work in terms of validity? I'm going on SQ and in the joining instructions it says I need a valid FORCEs test. Mine was due July 2018 however I am still yellow on my DAG and not red. Someone mentioned to me that it is good for all of 2018 but I don't really want to take their word for it because they tend to talk without knowing much generally. I am unable to get the test completed before I go on course (next week). Is this something that they are gonna RTU me for?

If your last FORCE test was completed in July 2017, it is expired now.  The test is only valid for 12 months.

Get your FORCE test done ASAP. 
 
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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #389 on: August 06, 2018, 16:58:49 »
If your last FORCE test was completed in July 2017, it is expired now.  The test is only valid for 12 months.

Get your FORCE test done ASAP.

That's what I thought. Guess my vacation is getting cut short :( Oh well.

Thanks a lot.

EDIT: Another question... With the new boot CANFORGEN getting activated on the 15th will this allow me to wear non-issued boots while on courses now without any hassle?


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Re: Soldier Qualification Course (Questions & Answers)
« Reply #390 on: September 28, 2018, 08:06:22 »
I finished BMQ-L in April. I did mine in Gage Town. To be honest, it really wasn't that bad until the field portion, at which point it really sucked due to weather.... and a pull pull on ice at 0400...

When I got back to PAT, I talked to some of the guys who did it in Edmonton, and it sounded like the **** knob was on 11 the whole time. Rucking 8k in any direction for meals/training/to the shacks, no off time, sprinting up hills covered in snow because "it's not that cold, take off the parka".

What I'm trying to get at here is that it sounds like there is no standardization between courses. Maybe one of the more experienced guys here can help it make sense to me.