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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #300 on: April 04, 2013, 11:07:27 »
I had dealings with Peter MacKay for a few years. Smart guy. I met him a few days after he became MND. I thought he would make a good Prime Minister and really wanted to help Vets. I have emails where he made many promises. Turns out he is usually full of crap and completely untrustworthy.

"The minimum benefit for the Primary Reserve Force members on short-term class of service who are medically released, or take a voluntary release but qualify as being totally disabled will increase to 75% of the deemed salary of $2700/month from the previously used $2000/month rate."

On LTD $2700 and only $2000 if you are on vocational rehab. I made twice that much on civvie street and lost the ability to work full time due to my injury.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #301 on: April 04, 2013, 11:15:30 »
Need to edit. Got out the form.
75% of 2700$=2025$-400 in taxes taken off=1625$ monthly.

Is there any way to get the edit post function back?

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #302 on: April 04, 2013, 11:25:55 »
Nemo tried to PM you but your inbox is full lol. Got a bunch of questions for you if you don't mind.


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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #303 on: April 04, 2013, 11:34:52 »
I emptied it. Should be fine now.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #304 on: April 04, 2013, 17:05:51 »
From the Federal Court of Canada:
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The Federal Court approves a negotiated settlement of a class action brought on behalf of former members of the Canadian Forces.

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The Court approves the proposed settlement finding that it represents a fair and reasonable compromise that is in the best interests of the class as a whole. With respect to the request made by counsel for the class to approve their claim to legal fees, the Court approves legal fees in an amount equal to 8% of the retroactive refunds payable to class beneficiaries. This figure is approximately 4% of the total value of the settlement ....
Summary, Docket: T-463-07, 4 Apr 13

Reasons for decision here or attached
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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #305 on: April 05, 2013, 16:47:59 »
If theres anyone else with or without SISIP experience please feel free to give your thoughts. I'd especially like to know about the 40k minimum if anyone has experienced what Nemo has.

Cheers,

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #306 on: April 06, 2013, 06:36:50 »
The only addition I would have is to contact the DND Ombudsman and explain your situation.  They may decide to address the issue at ministerial level as unfairness to reserve pers.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #307 on: April 09, 2013, 20:33:37 »
I'm reading VAC's - "The New Veterans Charter" pamphlet that arrived in the mail.

In this document is clearly states $40,000 pre-tax minimum for those qualified, as an enhanced Earnings Loss Benefit
for Veterans participating in Rehabilitation program or unable to be gainfully employed.

I double checked this against the VAC website and found this link quoting the same information,
under the Earning Loss Benefit.

The VAC link also indicates it applies to certain Reservists as well.
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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #308 on: April 09, 2013, 21:49:27 »
"unable to be gainfully employed."

To bad VAC never defines "gainfully employed". I'm sure theres lots of vets that are employed but not gainfully but VAC believes any job is gainfull in my opinion.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #309 on: April 09, 2013, 22:06:59 »
I'm reading VAC's - "The New Veterans Charter" pamphlet that arrived in the mail.

In this document is clearly states $40,000 pre-tax minimum for those qualified, as an enhanced Earnings Loss Benefit
for Veterans participating in Rehabilitation program or unable to be gainfully employed.

I double checked this against the VAC website and found this link quoting the same information,
under the Earning Loss Benefit.

The VAC link also indicates it applies to certain Reservists as well.

That is for your VAC rehab. You get two years of SISIP rehab first. You can't get VAC rehab until you have exhausted the SISIP.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #310 on: September 16, 2013, 10:53:40 »
Folks:

I'm advocating for a Veteran in BC, who's ex was financially abusing him. Since their divorse, several years ago, it appears she has been tracking the SISIP class action and has initiated an action against this veteran with the hopes of getting a share of the prospective SISIP monies.

I am asking for any insight, links, legislation or experience with BC Divorce act, or any national act that protects veterans in this situation (i.e. protection of funds as a result of service disability, from an ex). I know I had read a statute on this before, but I cannot locate it.

Your assistance is appreciated.




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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #311 on: October 10, 2013, 23:54:12 »
Hope you have received a response offline sooner, but for information purposes this is covered under clause 85(1) of the the Family Law Act in BC (each province is somewhat different) at http://canlii.ca/en/bc/laws/stat/sbc-2011-c-25/latest/part-6/sbc-2011-c-25-part-6.html.  There is also a good summation of exceptions and variety in application on pension.ca at http://www.pension.ca/Disability%20Benefits%20&%20FL.pdf.  This page also provides examples of some court decisions that may be of help.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #312 on: December 19, 2013, 11:44:42 »
If theres anyone else with or without SISIP experience please feel free to give your thoughts. I'd especially like to know about the 40k minimum if anyone has experienced what Nemo has.

Cheers,

Teager

I have been on SISP LTD w / Rehab, since 17 Nov 2012 & getting just under $3,000 per month, AFTER TAXES. I released from the Pres, as a result of eventulally going on a Pcat, from a injury in Bosnia late 2000. I was on class "C", at the time of injury. It took about 6 months, for SISIP to kick in. Another Pres member, I worked with in Wainwright, is also getting the same scale on SISIP.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #313 on: July 03, 2014, 19:53:47 »
Bump with the very latest ....
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A Federal Court judge has approved a $38.6-million settlement for Canadian military veterans with disabilities who won a lawsuit with Ottawa last year, lawyers for the veterans said Thursday.

The veterans were originally awarded $887.8-million over the long-standing federal practice of clawing back the military pensions of injured soldiers by the amount of disability payments they received.

The latest amount approved was for a settlement on the cost of living provisions in that agreement.

The lawyers for the veterans said they found a miscalculation in the way the federal government determined the cost of living allowance for military veterans.

The original class action was initiated in March 2007 on behalf of representative plaintiff Dennis Manuge and other disabled Canadian Forces veterans affected by the clawbacks.

The lawsuit started with 8,000 people, but the $38.6-million settlement includes another 6,000 veterans who were not subject to a wrongful offset of their benefits, but whose cost of living allowances were also miscalculated ....
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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #314 on: July 23, 2014, 14:00:13 »
I was med released in Oct 2013.  I was granted the 2 year SISIP benefit, & was told by SISIP that at the end of that 2 year period, I'd have to apply for CPP Disability if still disabled.  In 6 months I turn 60.  Am I forced to apply for regular CPP at that time, so SISIP can claw-back their equal funds ??  Or can I delay until a year later, hopefully no claw-back, and maybe a touch higher CPP (61 yrs of age, vs 60) ??

I haven't contacted SISIP as I don't want them to catch this if they haven't already. 

Tnx

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #315 on: July 23, 2014, 14:05:44 »
You don't have to apply for CPP until you're 65 if you choose to wait that long.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #316 on: July 23, 2014, 14:22:12 »
Investigate the rules concerning CPP disability payments (which are different from the regular CPP rules and payments).

CPP disability benefits are not the same as retirement benefits.

http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eng/services/pensions/cpp/disability/benefit/index.shtml?utm_source=campaign%20URL&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=000050,%2003122013,%20Eng&utm_campaign=disability%20benefit
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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #317 on: July 23, 2014, 16:08:51 »
bigcletus,

Thank you for posting and for everyone's reply.

There are too many posts asking for how to enter the CAF,
but far too few on how to deal with exiting our organization.
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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #318 on: July 23, 2014, 16:27:06 »
Once the 2 years with SISIP is over is there a program from VAC that kicks in if you are unemployed/disabled before CPP?

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #319 on: July 23, 2014, 17:59:25 »
I was told by SISIP, shortly before releasing, that at the 2 year mark, if my medical practitioner stated I was still disabled, I'd have to apply for CPP Disability.  If I was turned down, SISIP would continue (for how long, I have no idea).

So from these responses, it appears I can delay, buy 1 year, +/-, on apply for regular CPP.  If thats true, it works for me.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #320 on: July 25, 2014, 15:48:16 »
I took the plunge and contacted my SISIP case manager.

Good news, so it appears...Maybe some others who are affected can glean some valuable info (and dollars) from this response:

'Certainly.  We would only deduct for CPP Disability.  Should you decide to take CPP retirement you would receive it in addition to our benefit.  If you defer CPP retirement to 61 you will still receive the benefit from us.  Either way there is no impact to the benefit you currently receive from us.    It would be CPP Disability that would affect your SISIP benefit.

I hope this answers your question but if not let me know.

Regards,"

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #321 on: November 20, 2014, 18:26:33 »
Hey all,

Yes this is my first post. Served 25 years in the CF. Was released on a 3(B) medical back in 2004. Was NOT entitled to SISIP OR VOC REHAB.
With all the NEW programs out there I thought that because I was one of the lucky guys that was not entitled to these benefits back then, thought I'd be entitled to them now.
It was only actually after a chief I knew was releasing told me of all his entitlements after his release such as VOC rehab.
Could not actually believe that the CF paid 30K for his tuition for a heavy equipment course and this was without actually releasing medically. He said that it was an entitlement to retrain CF members after their release. I mean good on the CF now finally supporting our troops after release. Forgive my ignorance as I have been out for a while but I really wanted to take the same course but was told by SISIP that I have been out for too long and the military said that the NEW VOC rehab is for NEW releasing members.
Am I missing something here??
Am I not talking to the right people. Just think that this is VERY wrong. Served my country as many other past veterans and would like some of the same benefits that are available now as there was NOTHING for us back then.
Can someone please help? and is anyone else in the same situation?
"Dirty Patricia"
« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 01:25:51 by 44inchStone »

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #322 on: November 21, 2014, 01:59:04 »
Giving you this benefit wouldn't allow Veterans Affairs to return $1.1 Billion to the general fund.
If they can find reasons not to spend it they can return it. >:(

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #323 on: November 21, 2014, 07:16:21 »
I find it odd you wouldn't be entitled. My father was a 3b in 2002 and got his VOC rehab covered.

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Re: SISIP LTD 2002 - 2018
« Reply #324 on: November 21, 2014, 10:45:54 »
The reasons why they said I was NOT entitled to it was because my Military Pension combined with my CF Pension equaled more than the 75% if my pay. If it were less then SISIP would have given me the assistance.
AND even if I had the option of VOC rehab(Which is only good up until 2 years after your release), there would have been no assistance from SISIP. They screwed me BIG.
SO, in turn I had to find myself a substandard job. Still had to pay for a mortgage and support my family. I just could not wait for the months of back and forth fighting from DVA, SISIP and myself. Hoping that they would retrain me in something that I actually wanted to do.
In the past 9 years I've jumped from job to job. Just wish I could have chosen a new career path after the CF, something I really wanted. The same as what soldiers are given the option of doing now, even not released medically.
Things just don't seem right.
Pro Patricia!!