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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2010, 15:07:50 »
Thank you.

The dead link I was referring to: http://www.cfsuo.forces.gc.ca/ts-st/sup-app/mlsr-rped-eng.asp

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2010, 16:27:26 »
Thank you.

The dead link I was referring to: http://www.cfsuo.forces.gc.ca/ts-st/sup-app/mlsr-rped-eng.asp

CFSUO ... that's Ottawa; you didn't really think their links would be up to date did you?  8)
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2010, 16:33:28 »
Ottawa. Isn't that the home station of Bad idea generation.

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2010, 16:45:57 »
Ottawa. Isn't that the home station of Bad idea generation.

No, the Good Idea Fairies live there. They have branch offices too.
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2010, 16:51:18 »
No.  No.  Those are Fairies who think they have good ideas.
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2010, 17:35:06 »
No.  No.  Those are Fairies who think they have good ideas.

Maybe so George, but they call themselves Good Idea Fairies. ;D
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2010, 00:01:18 »
Is that why the Louis Stand around bldg looks so shiney? From all the Fairy dust.

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2010, 08:27:53 »
Is that why the Louis Stand around bldg looks so shiney? From all the Fairy dust.

I think that's Coventry you're thinking of.  Pink fairy dust.   ;)
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2010, 09:04:56 »
Well DLR is in the St.Laurent bldg, so there must be high concentrations of some kind of dust over there. >:D

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2010, 14:04:49 »
I think that's Coventry you're thinking of.  Pink fairy dust.   ;)

Be careful Moe....that's the org I work for!!  >:D
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2010, 19:20:12 »
Be careful Moe....that's the org I work for!!  >:D

My sister works there.  Civilian accountant for CFPSA.   ;D
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2010, 20:18:39 »
Well DLR is in the St.Laurent bldg, so there must be high concentrations of some kind of dust over there. >:D

It isn't pink dust, nor is it fairy dust.

I'm convinced it's angel dust.

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2010, 21:36:26 »
I once did the backbone for a secure system in the LStL. We had to tell the cleaners what floor we were going to be on the day before... so they could clean the ceiling tiles of all the mouse droppings. The bldg is infested with mice, little know fact.

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2010, 15:46:44 »
This deals with yearly entitlements, so I'll ask it...

A little bird once told me that I am entitled to (sports) bra reimbursement, to a tune of about 160$ a year, or 4 bras, whichever comes first?  I know they have to be sports bras, etc, but my questions are these:

I heard a rumour once that, because I'm deployed this year, I'm entitled to double the bra numbers, is this true?

Also, I have my bra receipts magneted to the fridge back home, which were bought before my first deployment in February.  Can they still be submitted when I go home, or have I missed the boat because we're in the new financial year?

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2010, 16:36:47 »
Yes, your entitlement does double when deploying (I'm sure Vern will have a link for that), however, I think you might be SOL for the receipts from last year as I believe the yearly entitlement must be done in the fiscal year.  See your clerk for further (and probably better) info on that matter.
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2010, 16:57:05 »
This deals with yearly entitlements, so I'll ask it...

A little bird once told me that I am entitled to (sports) bra reimbursement, to a tune of about 160$ a year, or 4 bras, whichever comes first?  I know they have to be sports bras, etc, but my questions are these:

I heard a rumour once that, because I'm deployed this year, I'm entitled to double the bra numbers, is this true?

Also, I have my bra receipts magneted to the fridge back home, which were bought before my first deployment in February.  Can they still be submitted when I go home, or have I missed the boat because we're in the new financial year?

Thanks so much for any info.

You missed the boat for last FY however, as of 01 Apr --- you are entitled to another $160.00 for this FY and, if you are still deployed and have not claimed against the deployment, you are entitled to a further $160.00.

If I read your post correctly, you are still deployed and have not claimed the 160.00 for this deployment or the 160.00 for FY 10/11. That = $320.00.

Forget the number of bras. It is no longer an issue as per the recent change. The entitlement is 160.00 per FY (and deployment). You can buy 1 X 160.00 dollar bra or 16 X 10.00 $ bras. Tax is NOT included. The taxes are re-imburseable over and above the 160.00. Receipts required.

You can purchase, and claim, while deployed; you do not have to be in-Canada.
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #66 on: August 13, 2010, 07:39:55 »
You missed the boat for last FY however, as of 01 Apr --- you are entitled to another $160.00 for this FY and, if you are still deployed and have not claimed against the deployment, you are entitled to a further $160.00.

If I read your post correctly, you are still deployed and have not claimed the 160.00 for this deployment or the 160.00 for FY 10/11. That = $320.00.

Forget the number of bras. It is no longer an issue as per the recent change. The entitlement is 160.00 per FY (and deployment). You can buy 1 X 160.00 dollar bra or 16 X 10.00 $ bras. Tax is NOT included. The taxes are re-imburseable over and above the 160.00. Receipts required.

You can purchase, and claim, while deployed; you do not have to be in-Canada.

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Re: Lost Kit Report
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2011, 11:18:30 »
Would be possbile to get a link for the lost kit form?

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2011, 11:22:26 »
Does anyone know what form you need to fill out to report lost kit? also links if possible.

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2011, 11:29:22 »
Does anyone know what form you need to fill out to report lost kit? also links if possible.

Posted here for you already:  http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,26386.0.html
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2011, 11:45:03 »
thanks, is there another link, that one doesn't work

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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2011, 11:57:16 »
It's a DWAN link.

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Re: Lost Kit Report
« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2011, 12:11:54 »
A Stores Loss Report is a locally produced form.  They're all basically the same, but there are variations from base to base.  Clothing Stores should have one available for you.

Once the Report is completed and submitted, they should issue the replacement piece of kit.

Now I'm going to let folks in on a badly kept secret.  Clothing Stores cannot force you to pay for lost kit.  Only the Chain of Command can do this and there is supposed to be proof of willfulness or negligence.  The applicable regulations are QR&O 38.01 and 38.03.  If you lose equipment on a field exercise (due to the chaos that usually reigns for instance), and you can show that you took every reasonable precaution to look after it, then you shouldn't have to pay for it.  Part of the Stores Loss Report is a line for the member to object on the grounds that the projected recovery is "unwarranted or unreasonable."  If the member the objects, then the CO cannot order a recovery.  If it goes to the next level, the Formation Commander can only order a recover of $50 (Commander of a Command, $200 and the CDS, $250).  A pertinent part of the QR&O 38.03 states:

(a) no administrative deduction shall be imposed if the negligence is of a minor character, being negligence that does not involve recklessness, undue carelessness or intentional commission of a wrongful act or an intentional omission to perform a legal duty;...

Having said this, BE CAREFUL!  Consider how badly you want to fight this before you proceed.  There is always the possibility that the CO could order an investigation and if you are indeed found negligent, you could end up both paying for the item and getting charged under the Code of Service Discipline.  Regulations can be such a double-edged sword!

The reason I bring this up is because I have seen too many CF members get rail-roaded into paying for things that were actually lost through the normal day to day dealings of the CF.  If something is lost or damaged through no fault of your own, you shouldn't have to pay for it.  My best example was the case of a young sailor who lost his floater coat (an expensive item).  He had hung it on the hook where he was told to hang it and it disappeared.  As the Supply Officer, my recommendation to the CO was "write-off with no recovery action."  It wasn't the sailors fault that something was put away properly and then disappeared. The CO approved the write-off.
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Re: Lost Kit and annual issue questions
« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2011, 15:17:14 »
So after parade I left my tac vest where everyone leaves there kit before entering.

Afterwards, before I decided to head home, I went to pick it up. It was no longer there. I went to the commissionaires to ask if they've seen a stray tac vest, they haven't heard or seen one.


Now I'm thinking I'm screwed. I'm going to head to ASU tommorow to file a lost kit report, am I going to have to pay for a replacement vest?
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