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Dog Tags
« on: November 08, 2001, 18:30:00 »
Hey, I have a few questions concerning Dog Tags...

1.) Do CF members even get Dog Tags ?
2.) If so do all 3 branches recieve them ?
3.) And are they like the traditional Dog Tags like the US Military uses (the 2 piece Tags) or does the CF use a different type of Dog Tag.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2001, 20:54:00 »
Yes
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No, they are one piece with a groove down teh center to break it in half. The info is written on the top and the bottom again. You leave the top part on the dead person.

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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2001, 23:20:00 »
The current style of dogtag was introduced in the late 1940s, and was used in the Korean War and up to present day.  The material has changed and the protocols for information have changed slightly over time, but for the most part they have not changed in 50 years.
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2001, 17:03:00 »
Do reserves wear dog tags?
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2001, 17:55:00 »
YUP  WE DO
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2002, 03:17:00 »
do they still print the members‘ religion on the tag?

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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2002, 09:04:00 »
Yup, the tags include your religion in an abbreviated form, e.g. ACC for Anglican Church of Canada.

Only one of the tags gives your blood type and RH factor, which I guess makes sense, it‘s pretty much useless info if you‘re dead...   :blotto:  

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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2002, 10:47:00 »
If you don‘t want a religion listed on the ID Disk, don‘t fill in the space on the app form. They‘ll enter NRE (no religion entered) on the disk.
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2002, 14:27:00 »
Well, technically, us Militia types do rate dog tags and mil ID cards. But after 4+ months in the regiment, I don‘t have them, nor do any of the guys who were on QL2/3 with me. Then again, it may just be that our BOR is filled with usless pouges. Who always seem to have nice shiny new field kit us line animals don‘t have issued. Go figure.
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2002, 14:43:00 »
Marauder,
Get on your CSM, thru your Pltn WO. We got all our new guys in the WR done as soon as they came back and for the most part they‘re completed for ID cards and Disks.
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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2002, 20:19:00 »
Yeh mine say NRE as well. Is the religion section so they can give you your last rites?

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Re: Dog Tags
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2002, 09:12:00 »
spacemarine,
Yea, that possibility exist I suppose. Padres in the military are able to cover a large spectrum of religions, no matter their own. It‘s done by keeping things non denominational and an aggreement with the religious hierarchy in Canada. Therefore a Rabbi could minister to an RC if he were the only one avail and ya still get to heaven! Besides, they say everyone finds god on their deathbed, and I don‘t think most people are fussy about who‘s he is!

As for the rest, fill in the form and submit it. If nothing happens, (give it time to work, even regs don‘t get theirs by that afternoon!), put in a memo to the Adjt. Make sure you create a paper trail and push it up the chain. These things are part of your standard issue stuff. Most times nothing happens because someone has left the request in a basket and it gets shifted around the office till it‘s lost. We like to ask for ours in a large run. We‘ll wait till Sept-Oct, canvass the Regt, submit all requests at once and voila!, everyone gets ID Disks. Try that.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2002, 12:38:00 »
What information, line by line, goes on the dog tags? An example would be great too.
thanks  :fifty:

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Re: dog tags
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2002, 17:09:00 »
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2002, 18:02:00 »
I assume the one they leave on the body is the one with the blood type, correct?
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2002, 19:45:00 »
The top part with the chain should stay with whatever body part is the largest it can attach to...The bottom goes to the supply guys for processing (why I don‘t know)
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2002, 21:30:00 »
The bottom half of the dog tags goes to supply because Graves Registration is a G4 (Logistics) responsibility. If the body was handled correctly with a battlefield burial, then that lower half of the dogtag will be accompanied by the details of the burial for later recovery to a military cemetery or repatriation. Having the logistics branch handle this ensures that the medical corps resources are concentrated on the living.

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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2002, 21:03:00 »
thanks,
one more thing are the dog tags stamped or are they engraved, i‘ve seen a bunch engraved, is this correct?  :fifty:

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Re: dog tags
« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2002, 22:34:00 »
Mine are stamped, but the lettering is fine enough that it could be mistaken for engraving.

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Re: dog tags
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2003, 05:47:00 »
The old tag‘s were aluminium (go figure).
The one‘s we have now are of steel so they can survive fire etc.
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2003, 23:02:00 »
Uh oh... What if... You dont relly have a religion. I mean my mom says in christian.  But ive never really went to church all that much.  I mean ive read a vee from the bible once in a while, The lord is my sheperd.... Think they‘ll even let me in.. I saw on the news this one kid got kicked out of his scouts or somthin because he idnt have a religion =)
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2003, 00:21:00 »
If you state no religion on the form, your Identity Disks will come back with NRE stamped on them in place of faith. NRE = No Religion Entered. No biggy, you don‘t have to have a certified religion to be in the Forces. Even the atheistic soldier mutters, Oh God, not again, at budget time.  :D
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Re: dog tags
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2003, 21:00:00 »
The atheistic soldier is also known to mutter Oh/Dear God (I won‘t do this again) when making long distance calls on the porcelain bathroom phone as well... but I digress.

NRE has become very common over the past ten years, signs of the times I guess.

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Re: dog tags
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2003, 07:19:00 »
Once upon a time, a padre suggested there were no atheists on foxholes ...

When I attended funerals of Second World War veterans from my Regiment, I quickly discovered the old guys could recite Psalms from memory ... not because they were particularly religious, but because they‘d had to do it so many times during the War ...

So, even though I‘m not that religious, I remember my padre‘s words.

And, amusingly enough, we were reminded of the field expedience of carrying a pocket bible (you know - the infamous one that "stops the bullet") ... just in case there was ever the requirement to hold a charge parade in the field (chuckle).

And, one last word - if you‘re dead, and you weren‘t terribly religious, then you probably won‘t worry or care too much about your funeral.  However, if your family or parents were more religious than you, they might appreciate giving you an "appropriate" farewell (in this case, appropriate refers to them, not so much as you).  For the sake of being gracious/altruistic, it doesn‘t hurt to put down your family‘s religion - it gives you manoeuver room later on ...

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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2003, 17:52:00 »
Bossi,

Was thinking along similar lines.  Many a Navy veteran can recite psalm and verse and tell of moments they shared with the Lord after finding that maybe, just maybe something more than dumb luck saved their Salty behinds.

You hit it on the head.  A wizened old Padre in Cornwallis told us a very similar story.

"We are men, we can drink, we can cuss.  We are expected to commit acts of sin in defence of our beliefs and we can blasphemy God.  But it is our families who stand before him and consecrate their loss".

Didn’t miss a Sunday for 4 years after hearing that, then I followed another path.  Still sticks to this day.