Topic: The Khadr Thread

[Colin P]

Our very own Milnews highlighted that the Khadar family has links to this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Boyle

[gryphonv]

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ex-gitmo-captive-set-to-sue-canada-for-50-million-for-alleged-complicity-in-torture-1.3664243

It seems they are starting to come out of the woodwork.

[Hamish Seggie]

http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada/ex-gitmo-captive-set-to-sue-canada-for-50-million-for-alleged-complicity-in-torture-1.3664243

It seems they are starting to come out of the woodwork.

Any bets he’ll settle for 10.5 million?

[gryphonv]

I'm curious how this one plays out. But glaring difference, he don't have Canadian citizenship. And if he did, since it wasn't by birth, it could of been removed for the terrorism charges.

[Oldgateboatdriver]

I'm curious how this one plays out. But glaring difference, he don't have Canadian citizenship. And if he did, since it wasn't by birth, it could of been removed for the terrorism charges.

No it couldn't. You may recall that Trudeau's Liberals have revoked that law, and even retro-actively given back to convicted terrorist their Canadian citizenship.

To Trudeau's Liberals, "A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian" no matter how unsavoury their actions, even against Canadians and the Canadian state's are. Remember, Trudeau himself envies the Canadian citizenship of those who acquire it through immigration and wished he could do so himself*.


*: Personally, if Trudeau wanted to renounce his Canadian citizenship (perhaps acquiring the Chinese one, since he admires them so much), go live somewhere else (perhaps the Aga Khan's caribbean retreat) while applying for immigration to Canada, come back here as an immigrant, wait the three (?) to five years needed and took Canadian citizenship again, I would have no problem with that - would get him out of our "hair' for that long at least. 

[gryphonv]

No it couldn't. You may recall that Trudeau's Liberals have revoked that law, and even retro-actively given back to convicted terrorist their Canadian citizenship.

To Trudeau's Liberals, "A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian" no matter how unsavoury their actions, even against Canadians and the Canadian state's are. Remember, Trudeau himself envies the Canadian citizenship of those who acquire it through immigration and wished he could do so himself*.


*: Personally, if Trudeau wanted to renounce his Canadian citizenship (perhaps acquiring the Chinese one, since he admires them so much), go live somewhere else (perhaps the Aga Khan's caribbean retreat) while applying for immigration to Canada, come back here as an immigrant, wait the three (?) to five years needed and took Canadian citizenship again, I would have no problem with that - would get him out of our "hair' for that long at least. 

I forgot about that.

At least he has nice Hair. /s

[Platitudinarian]

Not meaning at all to reignite any debate about Omar's detention in Gitmo, or the Harper governments efforts to keep him there indefinitely, but trying to go to to Saudi at this time seems like a bad idea. They just murdered Khasshogi and Canadian and SA relations are not exactly at their best. Such a high profile visitor might attract some very unwanted attention or political reprisal. Don't do it bro.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/omar-khadr-passport-travel-saudi-arabia-sister-1.4940009

[Loachman]

You consider him your "bro"?

Most here, I think, would support his trip to Saudi Arabia.

[Eye In The Sky]

Not that he needs it, but I'd contribute to a GoFundMe for the airline ticket.   

[PuckChaser]

You consider him your "bro"?

Most here, I think, would support his trip to Saudi Arabia.

One way, with passport surrendered at the last Canadian airport he was in.

[my72jeep]

Not that he needs it, but I'd contribute to a GoFundMe for the airline ticket.   

Let the buger pay out of his own pocket, why should he get any more of our money?

[AbdullahD]

Wait.. we paid him millions of dollars and now he wants to go to Saudi to visit his "sister" who has been under investigation previously...

Am I the one thinking this is insane? I think if he leaves this country.. he will take his money and not come back....

Why wont his sister come here? Why now? It is not Ramadan or anything that I'm aware of either.

Sorry I'm suspicious
Abdullah

[Hamish Seggie]

Not meaning at all to reignite any debate about Omar's detention in Gitmo, or the Harper governments efforts to keep him there indefinitely, but trying to go to to Saudi at this time seems like a bad idea. They just murdered Khasshogi and Canadian and SA relations are not exactly at their best. Such a high profile visitor might attract some very unwanted attention or political reprisal. Don't do it bro.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/omar-khadr-passport-travel-saudi-arabia-sister-1.4940009

Your bro? Really?

Please rethink your line of thought and be cognizant of the thread your posting on. We’re not too terrorist friendly here.

[Platitudinarian]

Your bro? Really?

Please rethink your line of thought and be cognizant of the thread your posting on. We’re not too terrorist friendly here.

Did mean that sarcastically. Obviously he can use the 105 million dollar settlement to get his *** there. Brought it up just because of the timing, I'm not "terrorist-friendly" FFS.

It would be really weird political conundrum if something were to happen to him there. Like if he and his sister join what's left of Al Qaida, well that would set a really shitty precedent for others seeking reparations for illegal imprisonment for detention in places like Gitmo. And if the Saudi's murder him, what's the GOCs response supposed to be? And if nothing happens and he just comes back, is that really going to be the end of it?

[Cloud Cover]

Personally, I want him to have his rights and go. As a thought experiment, how far would the current CanGov go to free him from the Saudis compared to the two unlucky bastards in China. He's their ******* golden boy, let him go.

[Journeyman]

He's their ******* golden boy, let him go.

Just to be clear, do you mean the Canadian government or the Saudi's?  I suspect that, like his sister, he faces absolutely no risk in Saudi Arabia.

[Cloud Cover]

Both. He’s got 10 million, worth a ransom to someone. It can be arranged I’m sure.

[Teager]

I still find it odd how he managed to get in a nursing program with his record. Not exactly sure how things work in Alberta but my wife is in a nursing program and is required to have a vulnerable persons check done every 6 months.

I find it odd how his big plans were to go into this nursing program and now he is unable to "focus" in it and all of a sudden wants to go visit his sister all after a year or so of receiving his payment. Perhaps his sister has some "investment" opportunities for him.

[Jarnhamar]

I still find it odd how he managed to get in a nursing program with his record.

Easy. He's a celebrity.  He could probably arrange a meeting between himself and the PM fairly easily if he wanted to.

[Hamish Seggie]

Maybe some don’t understand that calling a terrorist “bro” even jokingly is not funny. Khadr was lucky he didn’t catch one in the head the day he murdered a medic.

[Brihard]

Maybe some don’t understand that calling a terrorist “bro” even jokingly is not funny. Khadr was lucky he didn’t catch one in the head the day he murdered a medic.

Other than a recanted confession under threat of torture and indefinite detention in Gitmo, what actual evidence is there that he threw the grenade? I remain completely unconvinced that he is guilty of that particular act. Sure as hell there's nothing there that would stand in any court in a place that recognizes due process and rule of law...

[Czech_pivo]

Other than a recanted confession under threat of torture and indefinite detention in Gitmo, what actual evidence is there that he threw the grenade? I remain completely unconvinced that he is guilty of that particular act. Sure as hell there's nothing there that would stand in any court in a place that recognizes due process and rule of law...

From a National Post article - May 29, 2015. "Edited" - I'm adding the link - https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/omar-khadr-describes-firefight-that-killed-u-s-soldier-im-just-going-to-throw-this-grenade

"In an interview, Khadr, now 28,  remembers grenades being tossed inside the remote compound of an alleged al-Qaida cell, something exploding beside him and U.S. forces “screaming and shouting.”

“I got scared,” a bearded Khadr, now 28, says in a documentary collaboration by the Toronto Star, CBC and White Pine Pictures.

“I was thinking, ‘What should I do…?’ I didn’t know what to do. So I thought, I’m just going to throw this grenade and maybe just scare them away.”

The evidence is his own words.