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Re: Will I have to redo BMQ?
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2013, 14:59:27 »
Im more or less in the same situation. I put a CT in from my P Res Army unit, to an RMS Clerk Reg Force (Navy). My interview is next week and then I should receive an offer from my broker quick. I have completed my BMQ/BMQ (L) and my controlled goods awareness... I have been in my unit for 13 months... Any idea if I should get the bypass?

How 'quick' is quick for an expected offer?

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Re: Will I have to redo BMQ?
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2013, 10:19:53 »
Just going from personal experience, I didn't have to. I went from Armoured reserves to Armoured reg force with a 4 year gap in between and they put me on my DP1. They initially said I was going to be going to CFLRS but changed their minds I guess.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2014, 13:44:26 »
Hi I joined the military and did my Basic Training. I released a while back for personal reasons I was just wondering how long I have to rejoin before my basic training is considered expired?

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2014, 14:14:58 »
There is no guaranteed timeline because standards / skills change.

Generally speaking, if the BMQ standards have not changed since release,
after the mandatory PLAR (due to prior service) your BMQ should be valid for approximately three years.

Note: trades (MOC) trained members have about five years, depending on the above.
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Recruit school bypass
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2014, 14:39:02 »
Hi I released in 2011 I was fully trained and with the Royal Canadian Dragoons and I Voluntarily released. I re applied in 2013 but got held up and canceled. I was wondering how long do I have before I would have to redo basic training? Not that redoing basic would stop me from coming back but I would just like to know as I submitted my application and requested recruit school bypass and if I have chosen a different trade will that affect that in anyway?

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2014, 15:18:15 »
Well actually they have but they seem easier than when I did it. I was told by a buddy of mine that is also rejoining that  it's 5 years he kind of confused me though so I figured I would ask. I also forgot to mention that I was all done my trades training as well.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2014, 15:18:52 »
I've heard 5 years.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2014, 15:28:46 »
Well I guess I will find out when they contact me again. Thanks though guys. If I do have to redo it it won't stop me.

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Re: Recruit school bypass?
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2014, 13:27:36 »
Good day,

A PLAR is used to assess all prior education and qualifications including courses taken by prior serving members who are applying for reenlistment into the Canadian Armed Forces related to the chosen occupation on the current application. Courses change over time and a PLAR is used to determine what knowledge gained from previous qualifications match the current requirements of the training for the occupation and may result in the granting of some qualifications towards the current courses/occupation standards.

For example if you've already done a basic military qualification course and the course has not changed then an individual would be granted that qualification and not have to redo the course if they are re-enrolled.
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Recruit school bypass
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2016, 15:13:35 »
Hi

I just got a call saying I was accepted as a combat engineer with recruit school bypass.

Does this mean I am bypassing both bmq and sq or just bmq?

During trade school do I stay on base on course like bmq and sq or can I get my own place?  How long before my girlfriend and daughter Can Move around with me? It it possible to be near them or live with them during trade school?

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Re: Recruit school bypass
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2016, 15:19:51 »
I just got a call saying I was accepted as a combat engineer with recruit school bypass.

Does this mean I am bypassing both bmq and sq or just bmq?

From Ask a CAF Recruiter,

Recruit school bypass?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=117016.0




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Re: Recruit school bypass
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2016, 16:02:29 »
Hi

I just got a call saying I was accepted as a combat engineer with recruit school bypass.

Does this mean I am bypassing both bmq and sq or just bmq

Likely just BMQ.  BMQ-L/SQ isn't taught at CFLRS right?  Makes sense.

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During trade school do I stay on base on course like bmq and sq or can I get my own place?

CFSME, I'll wager a guess that you will live-in during your 3s.  Unless the world has really changed in the cbt arms.

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  How long before my girlfriend and daughter Can Move around with me?

Normally, that is after you are completed your trg (QL3) and posted to your first unit.

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It it possible to be near them or live with them during trade school?

No move at public expense and they'd have to pay their own way/rent, the whole sha-bang.  You have no idea what time you'd have off to actually spend with them.  If they aren't from close to the CFB Gagetown area, I personally would recommend they stay close to home while you are in your QL3 trg.  They'd be in a new area, with no family support and you will be very busy most of the time and not even likely allowed to live with them, right?

And you would be able to focus on your course without clock-watching thinking about 'going home' all the time.

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Re: Recruit school bypass
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2016, 07:20:40 »
Hi

I just got a call saying I was accepted as a combat engineer with recruit school bypass.

Does this mean I am bypassing both bmq and sq or just bmq? No you will do BMQ-L either at 5 Div TC or some other location

During trade school do I stay on base on course like bmq and sq or can I get my own place?  How long before my girlfriend and daughter Can Move around with me? It it possible to be near them or live with them during trade school? You will first be placed in HOLDFAST TP and will have to live in IIRC and during your trades course you will be required to live in the shacks with the rest of the course

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2016, 15:55:34 »
Greetings:

How many times have you heard of an individual completing basic training? 3, 4, 5 +? Just curious. Thanks in advance.


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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2016, 16:11:31 »
Theoretical limit?

Joins PRes at 16, CT to RegF at 18 needs to redo BMQ.
Gets out after BE, re-enrolls 10 years later, BMQ again.

Probably 3? at 4 the CFRC should be not allowing them back in.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2016, 16:28:00 »
Saw this from way back in 2006. Doesn't say how many BMQ's, but it may help,

Unfortunately, a person could release and reapply as many times as they want as there is no restriction on either.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2016, 16:30:06 »
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 16:34:31 by RocketRichard »

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2016, 16:30:34 »
Saw this from way back in 2006. Doesn't say how many BMQ's, but it may help,
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2016, 16:51:27 »

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2016, 18:00:02 »
Doesn't make much sense, BMQ qual if good for 10 years post-release....
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2016, 18:44:22 »
Doesn't make much sense, BMQ qual if good for 10 years post-release....
I do believe BMQ qual is only good for 5 years. We need to start thinking outside the box on this one.


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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2016, 19:09:26 »
Doesn't make much sense, BMQ qual if good for 10 years post-release....

I do believe BMQ qual is only good for 5 years.



How long Is BMQ good for 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=28624.0

If you get out and then decide to get back into the CF within a year, it should still be good.  If you wait two or more years, you will probably have to do it all over again.

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If you do BMQ regular force, then it's 5 years.

From 2011,

He informed me that BMQ expires after 2 years! I missed the enrollment date by 1 month, My understanding was that BMQ was good for 5 years and 10 years if you finished your trade course!

From 2012,

I'm not sure how long BMQ is good for, I heard 5 years, then 10 years. 

DAA would know.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2016, 19:23:01 »
I do believe BMQ qual is only good for 5 years. We need to start thinking outside the box on this one.


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Come to think of it, that's sounds more correct.

My father, back in the late 80's, released for a year and got back in. The CFRC gave him a recruit school bypass... Only to find himself back in Cornwallis again.

We've had a few fellas come in at the 2 year and 5 year mark and were given all their qualifications back. No redos.
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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2016, 19:51:46 »
We are going to be hurting for experience and leadership when the boomers start retiring.  When we have former MCpl's and above attempt to re enroll and they've been out longer than 5 years and they have to do basic in the reg force or reserve that is an issue.  I would argue that someone who has done their CLC/JLC/PLQ etc could do a 'refresher' course thus opening up spots for new recruits and getting the experienced people into the training system to re qualify (if needed) in their trades or straight into a unit.  Yes, I know there are standards but essentially not much has changed in basic training since as far back as the 80's.

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Re: BMQ / BMOQ Expiry date? [MERGED]
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2016, 19:57:42 »
We are going to be hurting for experience and leadership when the boomers start retiring. 

The "Boomers" started retiring years ago. Their current age range is 70 - 52.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/baby-boomers-say-age-gives-them-office-cred/
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