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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #525 on: September 08, 2018, 17:59:19 »
My understanding is 1 CMBG is letting the troops grow beards, not sure if or when everyone else is going to catch up.

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #526 on: September 08, 2018, 18:37:44 »
My understanding is 1 CMBG is letting the troops grow beards, not sure if or when everyone else is going to catch up.

Until a CANFORGEN is released, this is contrary to the CAF Dress Instructions.
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #527 on: September 08, 2018, 19:55:42 »
What came down was to submit a memo stating your intention to grow a beard. So does that mean once the memo is submitted you're good to stop shaving? That's the question.

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #528 on: September 08, 2018, 23:16:11 »
What came down was to submit a memo stating your intention to grow a beard. So does that mean once the memo is submitted you're good to stop shaving? That's the question.

Maybe from your CoC. Clearly individual units are putting their own spin on what came down from higher.
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #529 on: September 10, 2018, 20:07:44 »
Until a CANFORGEN is released, this is contrary to the CAF Dress Instructions.

I'm pretty sure the Bde Comd had the consent of the Div Comd, I would assume because the CANFORGEN is not long in coming, I had heard it was to drop today, that obviously didn't happen, but I doubt it's far away. 

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #530 on: September 10, 2018, 20:09:06 »
What came down was to submit a memo stating your intention to grow a beard. So does that mean once the memo is submitted you're good to stop shaving? That's the question.

I would hope we avoid the entire writing a memo for this...I don't think any CO wants to be flooded with 100's of memos...

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #531 on: September 10, 2018, 21:11:55 »
Guys showed up today unshaven, were sent home to shave until their memo is approved.

Unit experiences may differ.

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #532 on: September 11, 2018, 14:40:27 »
The Army needs to adopt the request form.  Much easier and much more practical for mundane things like cease shaving.
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #533 on: September 11, 2018, 15:06:46 »
The Army needs to adopt the request form.  Much easier and much more practical for mundane things like cease shaving.

Or not use any forms and allow leaders to...well lead. 

"Hey Sgt, I am going to grow a beard" 
"Right on brah" and then thinks I'll monitor it but he is an adult and until he proves otherwise it is all good.




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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #534 on: September 11, 2018, 19:14:34 »
More importantly, when can we adopt a goatee and man bun? ;D

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« Reply #535 on: September 11, 2018, 20:06:29 »
More importantly, when can we adopt a goatee and man bun? ;D

I asked the CFSU(O) CWO when I was in Ottawa last if Goatee's are on the table as they are with the RCMP, he said no that's a dead issue :-/

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #536 on: September 12, 2018, 08:21:36 »
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #537 on: September 12, 2018, 11:04:12 »
I asked the CFSU(O) CWO when I was in Ottawa last if Goatee's are on the table as they are with the RCMP, he said no that's a dead issue :-/
Concur. IMHO that should be a HARD NO!


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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #538 on: September 12, 2018, 13:10:47 »
I asked the CFSU(O) CWO when I was in Ottawa last if Goatee's are on the table as they are with the RCMP, he said no that's a dead issue :-/

So...soul patches then?   Neat and doesn't affect the gas mask seal.

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #539 on: September 12, 2018, 15:18:27 »
I just heard a nasty rumour that BEARDFORGEN has been reversed because the air force didn't buy in. This came to me through two sources commenting on a mutual friend's Facebook post. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Apparently the news just came down today.
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #540 on: September 12, 2018, 15:23:05 »
I just heard a nasty rumour that BEARDFORGEN has been reversed because the air force didn't buy in. This came to me through two sources commenting on a mutual friend's Facebook post. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Apparently the news just came down today.

This makes me happy that I am Navy, though I feel for my colleagues who wear a different DEU and anxiously await BEARDFORGEN.

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« Reply #541 on: September 12, 2018, 15:30:52 »
This makes me happy that I am Navy, though I feel for my colleagues who wear a different DEU and anxiously await BEARDFORGEN.

RCN cant have a beard at sea... Although more scuttlebutt says that may be changing too...
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #542 on: September 12, 2018, 15:46:52 »
RCN cant have a beard at sea... Although more scuttlebutt says that may be changing too...

Better than not at all. Plus there aren't many seagoing billets for me in Ottawa right now anyway ;)

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #543 on: September 12, 2018, 17:46:54 »
I just heard a nasty rumour that BEARDFORGEN has been reversed because the air force didn't buy in. This came to me through two sources commenting on a mutual friend's Facebook post. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? Apparently the news just came down today.
Bah don't you dare start that rumour....I've been watching CANFORGENs like mad waiting for beardforgen.

You just killed what morale I had left lol.


 

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #544 on: September 12, 2018, 18:29:41 »
Bah don't you dare start that rumour....I've been watching CANFORGENs like mad waiting for beardforgen.

You just killed what moral I had left lol.
 

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #545 on: September 12, 2018, 18:51:50 »
Bah don't you dare start that rumour....I've been watching CANFORGENs like mad waiting for beardforgen.

You just killed what moral I had left lol.
 

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If the RCAF doesn't want in so be it, make it a CANARMYGEN/CANFORGEN.  The RCN already has regs for beards...

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« Reply #546 on: September 12, 2018, 18:55:28 »
That would be nice...and it makes sense....so it can't possibly happen.

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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #547 on: September 12, 2018, 21:28:03 »
Well, the BOOTFORGEN didn't apply to the Air Ops capbadge types for the most part, and it went forward.  I know more than 1 member of the aircrew world who only shave when they have to fly, and I've flown with aircrew who flew with beards for specific reasons.  Going off recent history of policy decisions, the WEEDFORGEN also was restrictive to aircrew specifically in the RCAF, yet the brush that applied to us didn't get used on 'everyone', so if there is common sense in policy for things like weed, I'm hopeful it will also be the case with beards.  Just because I don't get to pick my own combat boots, can't partake in legal use of cannabis and have to be clean shaven for flying (specifically related to mask/face seal concerns using emergency oxygen systems) doesn't mean it also makes sense to place the same restrictions on all;  BOOTFORGEN and WEEDFORGEN are examples of 'restrictions for some doesn't equal restrictions for all'.

I can't speak for the RCAF Comd/CWO but there are air ops folks out there with beards now...
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #548 on: September 12, 2018, 21:33:29 »
I’m having a chuckle - beards and bongs all in the same week. 😆
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Re: All things beardy-2005 to 2018 (merged)
« Reply #549 on: September 12, 2018, 23:30:16 »
I’m having a chuckle - beards and bongs all in the same week. 😆

Not yet, but I certainly hope in the next two days the beardforgen drops....