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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2008, 16:57:41 »
That we do geo  ;D
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2008, 17:31:06 »
Thumper/Bubbleheads all the way.....

And I'm not the slightest bit biased  ;D

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2008, 12:21:51 »
Okay, I'm not actually in YET, but my husband is an infantry NCM, and all he does is complain that it is REALLY boring on a standard day - you don't do nearly as much as you do in training, and especially now coming up to summer, there isn't much training or anything going on.

That said, he generally has PT sometime between 07:00 and 07:30 (could be a run, time in the gym, or as on some days, didly squat), then has a 10:00 timing for which they may have a class, do some sort of PT-style training (rappelling, hand-to-hand, rock climbing, etc.) Lunnch usually by 11:30ish, then back for 13:00 and again training of some sort, and off some time between 15:00 and 17:00. There are time when they'll head out to do field training, in which none of the timings are relevant, and depending on what's happening elsewhere on base, they may have other specific tasks or possibly nothing to do (after their last EX they spent several days cleaning the LAVs, whereas this week he has had days where they've been released early because of a lack of work, like today.) And at other times, he may be out overnight for field training.

Now, this isn't indicative of all infantry, nor of even every company in the battalion (2RCR). It just happens to be an average day for him. Things change, and honestly, we pretty much believe that no day is really "average" since he can be doing so many different things at so many different times. But I hope it helps a little bit.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2008, 13:48:19 »
Yawn  :boring: - Is that all the Infantry do ???
That explains a lot about why I'm always soo tired.... Opening the way for the Infantry and carrying everyone on my back    :P
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2008, 15:30:34 »
He must of had a lot of sleep on his last ex, us engineers shore did  ;D
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2008, 01:50:16 »
Yawn  :boring: - Is that all the Infantry do ???
That explains a lot about why I'm always soo tired.... Opening the way for the Infantry and carrying everyone on my back    :P

Please good sir, tell us of all the opening of ways and carrying you've done for us boring infantrymen :)
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2008, 06:48:14 »
Please good sir, tell us of all the opening of ways and carrying you've done for us boring infantrymen :)

Where would you like us thumperheads to start???
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2008, 07:33:42 »
As a Combat Engineer, I would have to say go Infantry. Not that I don't like being a Combat Engineer but our secondary role is much more exciting than our primary role. Neither job requires anyone to be rocket scientists and that being said, show me a Infantry Sect Comd or Pl WO who has to carry around a battle box full of pubs in order to do his job?

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2008, 08:02:36 »
As a Combat Engineer, I would have to say go Infantry. Not that I don't like being a Combat Engineer but our secondary role is much more exciting than our primary role. Neither job requires anyone to be rocket scientists and that being said, show me a Infantry Sect Comd or Pl WO who has to carry around a battle box full of pubs in order to do his job?

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Very true unfortunately, the part about the battle box that is. While we are not "rocket scientists" our math skills must be above average. For the most part though the Engineers are utilized in the secondary role only as a last resort by the battle commander. Or at least it used to be that way.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2008, 08:44:35 »
.... funny - In training, infantry leaders find that we are too methodical when it comes time to solve a problem.
Those notional mine fields they throw up on a map....  We start going thru our procedures to get them across & they blow a gasket cause it's taking too long (in their mind)... so they bypass us - declare the minefield breached & carry on the ex....

Then we get to somewhere where we have the real deal.... take your time they tell us - take your time
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2008, 10:26:38 »
How true there Geo.
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2008, 14:53:32 »
Very true unfortunately, the part about the battle box that is. While we are not "rocket scientists" our math skills must be above average. For the most part though the Engineers are utilized in the secondary role only as a last resort by the battle commander. Or at least it used to be that way.

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You aged yourself quite a bit........math skills? In the day of MS Excell there is no requirement for math skills. Everything is tables now. And even our Infantry brethern learn Exp Breaching. And I would disagree with your comment on being the last resort.....that's not true anymore at all. Ask any LAV Gnr from an Engr Sqn. In order to do our Primary role, we are often (8/10 times) called upon to do our Secondary role first.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2008, 20:19:10 »
You aged yourself quite a bit........math skills? In the day of MS Excell there is no requirement for math skills. Everything is tables now. And even our Infantry brethern learn Exp Breaching. And I would disagree with your comment on being the last resort.....that's not true anymore at all. Ask any LAV Gnr from an Engr Sqn. In order to do our Primary role, we are often (8/10 times) called upon to do our Secondary role first.

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Fair enough, many moons ago when I was still a thumperhead, that is the way it was. Time has a way of changing things.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2008, 00:00:10 »
Wow at least im not alone. I been strongly thinking of changing my MOC from Infantry to Combat Engineer. I still haven't decided. What type of math do Combat Enginee's do?

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2008, 00:02:29 »
What type of math do Combat Enginee's do?

Mostly the kind with numbers........

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2008, 00:04:56 »
Well will they expect us to know the math, or will they teach us how to do the math that we are a bit rusty on.

Will I need to know algebra, geometry, trig or will i need to know any type of math?
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2008, 00:18:00 »
Can you solve this :

(10+10) / 4 = ?


3 1/4 + 5 3/8 = ?

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2008, 00:45:07 »
I can do the first one....

Second well let's all be glad I'm not paid for my math skills...






For the record answer 1 is 5
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2008, 07:02:28 »
Can you solve this :

(10+10) / 4 = ? 5


3 1/4 + 5 3/8 = ? 8 5/8
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2008, 08:04:06 »
I think he wanted the original poster to solve it  ;D


I can do the first one....

Second well let's all be glad I'm not paid for my math skills...

For the record answer 1 is 5

And thats why most of us have calculators  ;D


or the one of the more common ones: 132 sec / 120 s/m +0.3
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2008, 09:39:10 »
2023......I would have been worried if you couldnt do it  ;D

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2008, 09:41:28 »



or the one of the more common ones: 132 sec / 120 s/m +0.3

Thats what i was getting at......

(walk time / burn time) + 0.3

If you can do something simple like that or just plain add some basic measurements ( hence the fraction question) then your math skills are good enough to pass the engineer QL3.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2008, 09:57:05 »
Thats what i was getting at......

(walk time / burn time) + 0.3

If you can do something simple like that or just plain add some basic measurements ( hence the fraction question) then your math skills are good enough to pass the engineer QL3.

Seeing the more complicated stuff has been moved from the 5's to the 6A's
Note to any Taliban and AQ personnel on the Form:  ALL SUICIDE VESTS AND EXPLOSIVE DEVICES MUST BE TESTED TO INSURE THEY WORK BEFORE GOING AFTER A TARGET.

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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2008, 10:02:35 »
DP1's now recieve this as part of Computer Based Learning.
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Re: Combat Engineer or Infantry
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2009, 23:23:33 »
What you have to do is lay down "Where do I want to be in 20 years" etc.  The Infantry as a career offers plenty of excellent training opportunities, as does being a Combat Eng., although you may develop a much more employable skill set (Civi) as a Combat Eng. if you ever do decide to "get out" entirely from the CF. Also, it's important to know with the current mission overseas, when choosing a trade it's often difficult to switch trades if in fact you wish to do so (they like to hold onto both- unless you're going Pri2 or 3). If you're able to speak with experienced guys (this site is perfect) then do it. But either way you'll have one hell of a time.

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