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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2008, 20:40:45 »
I had planned to drive to BMOQ in St. Jean, but was strongly advised against it;  I was told that the parking is very limited at CFLRS.

I'll take the train instead, but will definitely drive to Gagetown for CAP and artillery training in the fall, since I'll be there for over a year.

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2008, 20:42:18 »
I had planned to drive to BMOQ in St. Jean, but was strongly advised against it;  I was told that the parking is very limited at CFLRS.

I'll take the train instead, but will definitely drive to Gagetown for CAP and artillery training in the fall, since I'll be there for over a year.

There is ample parking at the Mega.  Has the person who told you that ever been there before?
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2008, 21:06:31 »
There is ample parking at the Mega.  Has the person who told you that ever been there before?

I'd assume so, since he's a Captain

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2008, 21:14:20 »
I'd assume so, since he's a Captain

A Captain?  Was he a Cpl who went through Cornwallis and couldn't make it to MCpl, so is now a "Career Capt", never having been to the province of Quebec?   >:D

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2008, 21:50:00 »
Here you go George a recent picture of Det Aldershot  ;D
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2008, 21:53:46 »
I'd assume so, since he's a Captain

Well, your call.  There is parking.  The Joining Instructions for CFLRS, issued on the authority of the Commandant, a Lt Col, say you can bring your car, and where you are to park it.  I am just telling you there is parking for candidates on garrison.  If you take a look at the attached photo, the areas circled (I use the term loosely!) in red are parking lots.  The ones circled in yellow are ones that candidates were/are able to park in.  The main one used by candidates is at the top left corner of the picture, on the NW end of the garrison.  The rest of the lots are for staff/employees.  The picture doesn't show the entire south end of the garrison (clothing stores, CE, etc). 

So...Yes, Virgina, there is a Santa Claus parking for candidates at CFLRS in St-Jean Qc.
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2008, 22:59:39 »
You're always a help, Eye In The Sky.  I'll check into the reimbursement for driving/gas vs. taking the train.

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2008, 23:30:21 »
Don't thank me, thank Google Earth for the screen shot picture  ;D
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2008, 23:37:10 »
You're always a help, Eye In The Sky.  I'll check into the reimbursement for driving/gas vs. taking the train.

 There's more to it than that. Either way you get reimbursed, but it's REALLY nice to have a car for weekends. Both for yourself, and because you'll be everybody's best friend. It makes the course a lot more pleasant when you can get out and not be cooped in the Mega, especially if you're doing IAP/BOTP back to back, which I think you said you were rytel.
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2008, 23:57:39 »
There's more to it than that. Either way you get reimbursed, but it's REALLY nice to have a car for weekends. Both for yourself, and because you'll be everybody's best friend. It makes the course a lot more pleasant when you can get out and not be cooped in the Mega, especially if you're doing IAP/BOTP back to back, which I think you said you were rytel.

Didn't have a car for IAP, but last summer I had my car for BOTP and it was awesome! Every weekend we were either cruising around St. Jean or in Montreal. It motivates you to get out and relax; it's nice to get away from the MEGA for a while.

I would strongly recommend brining your car.
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2008, 00:00:08 »
Didn't have a car for IAP, but last summer I had my car for BOTP and it was awesome! Every weekend we were either cruising around St. Jean or in Montreal. It motivates you to get out and relax; it's nice to get away from the MEGA for a while.

I would strongly recommend brining your car.

You want him to put his car in saltwater mix???   ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brining

http://bbq.about.com/cs/barbecuetips/a/aa112000b.htm

http://www.taunton.com/finecooking/articles/why-brining-keeps-meat-moist.aspx
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2008, 00:04:06 »
You want him to put his car in saltwater mix???   ;D

http://www.taunton.com/finecooking/articles/why-brining-keeps-meat-moist.aspx

 Well he wants to keep it moist, obviously.
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2008, 01:07:12 »
Well I do brine my car every 2nd saturday, after I wish it with soap.

I think I'll take your suggestions to heart, and tell my girlfriend that she can't use my car from August to October...

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2008, 21:13:31 »
Its been a while here, but personally, I bought a car when I turned 16, and I just hate it.  It runs fine I just hate the expenses of insurance, and gas, and shirtless female car washes, it just adds up.  Which is why I can't even describe how happy I am to be selling it and not paying insurance anymore!!   ;D

The only thing I want to have after Courses are done and have my first post is my dirt bike to toddle around on with other bike enthusiasts and such.  Especially if the CFB is out of the way a fair bit, all those empty fields, dirt roads, and trails are a god send.   :)   

In terms of having that though, does anyone know where you would keep something like that at your post?  If you're living in shacks can you just park it outside in a designated area or hows that work?

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2010, 04:02:06 »
This might be a dumb question but are you allowed to have a car at bmoq?
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2010, 05:18:15 »
If you use your own vehicle:


This method entails the candidate using a personal motor vehicle (whether the vehicle belongs to him/her or someone else). Candidates who wish to park their vehicle in the Saint-Jean Garrison for their course must have registration and insurance papers with them. You will have to park your vehicle in either lot A1 or lot A2. During the course, you will only be authorized to use your vehicle during designated weekends or holidays.


From: http://www.cflrs.forces.gc.ca/menu/pd/pa-ap/index-eng.asp

Take that however you wish.

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2010, 08:29:01 »
For almost all of the questions you may have...before you arrive thru the Green Doors atleast.

CFLRS Joining Instructions

And yes, you can take your own car, provided you have the items indicated in the post above mine.
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« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2010, 16:10:21 »
Thank you for the quick response.

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2010, 12:35:57 »


CFLRS Joining Instructions

Thanks for this link! I am memorizing it asap and it is allieviating a ton of stress for me!!!

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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #69 on: May 26, 2010, 13:32:55 »
The first time I received an offer and loaded on a BMQ course at CFLRS Det Borden, they asked if I needed transportation - I said no I can drive, and I was informed I could use my personal vehicle to get there and would be reimbursed travel expense on arrival. The second time I received an offer I was loaded on course at CFLRS St Jean - they didn't mention transportation, so I asked later on - I was told vehicles were only allowed under circumstances that would necessitate it (the example provided was a sick family member I needed to visit.) So no dice then... We'll see what the policy will be the third time! Point is, the provisions and restrictions for personal motor vehicles once there are in the joining instructions linked in the previous posts - however whether or not you will be allowed to take a vehicle is something you will learn when you are course loaded. If it's not initially brought up then make sure to ask before they buy you a plane or bus ticket.

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You can take your car to CFLRS.  Period.  I was staff there, and I can attest that MANY people had their PMVs that were on BMQ/BMOQ.  There are even designated parking spaces FOR students.

If you search on the forum, I believe I even posted a picture where I circled the spots students can park in red or yellow.
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2010, 13:59:14 »
I agree with EITS however, they may NOT pay you for mileage if the airfare (or bus fare) is cheaper.  Take your car if you like but be prepared for that.  Also, if you're from quite a distance away, leave plenty of time (to get on a plane, train or bus if required) in case of car troubles.  I'm pretty sure if they wanted you to take a plane and you took your car, the excuse "Well, my vehicle broke down" isn't going to go over very well. 
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« Reply #71 on: May 26, 2010, 14:56:55 »
It would be via the Cost Comparison method, would it not?
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2010, 15:22:13 »
Yes it would...
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if you drive your car and it cost you 1000$ in gas, hotels and restaurants BUT the cot of plying you would be 400$, you would only get 400$
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2010, 15:38:28 »
They will always pay the cheapest mode of transportation, then if you want to use another one, they make you sign a weaver saying that you will assume the cost difference, I'm in that situation atm, going on course in Borden from Halifax, the cost of a claim for taking my car would be well over 2000$ (incl. meals, gas, milleage, hotels...) but a plan ticket is around 800$ so I only get 800$ even if I use my car.

You don't really need a car while on BMQ....you can't get out for the first few week-ends and when you do everything is at a 20$ cab ride away....not worth the trouble unless you have family close by IMO.....
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Re: Personal car at Basic, or other courses? [MERGED]
« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2010, 16:28:05 »
if you do that, keep in mind that they wont ship it until your MOC qualified....
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