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Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« on: March 16, 2004, 10:29:00 »
Folks,

Because of the hardware failure last week, we‘re now operating off of my home connection until the new hardware can be put in place. Unfortunately, this is putting me *way* over my monthly traffic limit, and it may cost me up to $300 based on how things have been running so far.

I‘ve been tossing around a number of ideas, since I‘d like to avoid a $300 monthly bill. The obvious approach is to take down Army.ca for a while, to lower the usage. It‘s not my first choice, and would definitely be a temporary situation. (If we do happen to go off the air, don‘t panic - we‘ll be back!)

The other option is to try to raise a few bucks to cover the additional cost. Probably the best way to do this is to sell some Army.ca shirts, so at least you have something to show for your support. (I hate "flogging" them like this, but it seems to be the lesser of two evils.) You can go to the order form here:

 http://Army.ca/shirts

There are only 15 left from the first lot, so it‘s possible we may sell them all. Thanks in advance for your support.


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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2004, 10:51:00 »
What about advertisments from places like "wheelers"?  Dunno..it‘s an idea anyway!
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004, 10:55:00 »
Mike,
How do we send you a straight donation?
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2004, 11:11:00 »
Good idea.  Just noticed the t-shirts don‘t come in small, so I‘m willing to make a donation. :)
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2004, 11:13:00 »
Thanks for the quick response!

tree hugger: I have advertising from Wheelers already, though it doesn‘t "rotate in" very often. So far I‘ve made about $8 from that and just over $1 from the Amazon advertising here. It‘s probably because the ads are small, but I can‘t stand sites where 1/2 the page is flashing banner ads. I guess I need some marketing training...  ;)

recceguy: There‘s a form for straight donations here:

 http://army.ca/donate/


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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2004, 11:25:00 »
Huh?  What am I chopped liver?  My money is as green as everybody elses. Unless of course you only want a donation from recceguy. ;)
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 11:32:00 »
Heheh, sorry, apparently we were typing our responses at the same time...

Here‘s a thought: If you donate $18, you get a free shirt, shipped to your door.  ;)

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 11:44:00 »
hehe.. deal!  ;)
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2004, 13:50:00 »
Why don‘t you check out paypal for possible donations? They offer a service where webusers can click a link on your site (ie; army.ca) to directly send a paypal/credit card payment, for donation purposes. With ease of transcaction like that, i am sure everyone could cough up a few bucks... anyways, check out the link here:
 https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&leafid=2524&answer_id=3119609

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 13:51:00 »
Mike,

To recoup the $300 this month alone you‘d need to sell at least 100 shirts?  I think that people should step up to the plate and cough up $4 or $5 to help you out.  I‘ve done just that myself.
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2004, 13:54:00 »
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Why don‘t you check out paypal for possible donations? They offer a service where webusers can click a link on your site (ie; army.ca) to directly send a paypal/credit card payment, for donation purposes. With ease of transcaction like that, i am sure everyone could cough up a few bucks... anyways, check out the link here:
If you followed his link, you would see that he has already done this.
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2004, 14:01:00 »
Yep, already set up with PayPal... BTW I‘m not looking to completely cover the $300. Partly because that‘s an estimate and partly because I don‘t think it‘s reasonable to ask that much of the membership. So far though, folks have been very generous.


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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2004, 15:27:00 »
I feel really, really bad because as much as I want to, I can‘t help out.
My parents just keep saying no, and I don‘t have money, nor a credit card of my own to donate with.

But I would if I could. Sorry guys, I feel I‘ve let you down when you really need me.    :(
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2004, 15:28:00 »
How about a classified ad section, you could charge a $1.00 or so per ad. Limit it to miltary items, Collectables and Surplus. Lots of traffic and there is alot of people that have extra stuff laying around that are not a business. More ambitious project would be a auction such as ebay or yahoo, Military collectables only.

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2004, 15:35:00 »
It would be good to have a members only ‘equipment exchange‘ on here. See www.ausmil.com, which is a site similar to this, and they ahve one there.

Hope this helps us all out.

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2004, 15:46:00 »
Thanks for the ideas guys.

Lexi: Don‘t worry, not everyone is able to help out this way and I understand that. The response has been very positive, and we‘re looking pretty good.

I think an "equipment exchange" section might be a good idea, though it‘d be free. I don‘t want to charge for services as it then limits who can use them. It could also be very difficult to manage if it was a "pay to post" scenario. And most importantly, I‘m not out to make a buck, just trying to bridge things until the new hardware is in place.

Maybe we can start a new thread on the equipment idea to get a feel for how much it might be used.

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2004, 15:53:00 »
You‘d know what would be kinda cool? If you made the shirts Olive green just like the issued combat T‘s, then us fellows in the militia and cadets can wear them under our combats

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2004, 16:12:00 »
Not a bad idea... If this lot sells out maybe I‘ll order a 2nd batch... I‘ll probably post a poll first to get an idea of preferences for colour, size etc...


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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2004, 16:48:00 »
Mike,

email (mike@army.ca) was bounced back.  Please advise.....

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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2004, 18:50:00 »
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[qb] Not a bad idea... If this lot sells out maybe I‘ll order a 2nd batch... I‘ll probably post a poll first to get an idea of preferences for colour, size etc...


Thanks [/qb]
well you can count on me for one.. olive green, size small, please.    :D
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2004, 19:09:00 »
Oh man. This is awful!

I really wish I could help. I would transfur funds, but you have to be 18 right?
(*note* I have CIBC online banking if that makes a diffrence...)

As for my input, perhapes you could close all forums except Canadian army or Off topic or something of that nature.
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2004, 19:11:00 »
As soon as I get my interac card and allowance that my mom and dad owe me from the past 2 years I swear to the gods I‘m going to buy a whole closet worth of T-Shirts and wear them out on the town.

And here‘s another idea. Instead of having a small logo on the left breast, how about a large logo, like my avatar image with "Army.ca" across it instead? Just an idea...
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2004, 19:51:00 »
Hi Mike,

Another possible solution to this problems may be to  ‘simply‘ have a distributed server.  Many versions of forum software out there allow you do have your server act as the ‘mother‘ server, and other computers can act as secondary servers and take a load of the network traffic.

Some free forum software that does is can be found at:

www.invisionboard.com
www.phpbb.com

I have not done this before, but I don‘t think it is too difficult to set up.

I would be willing to donate my linux platform as a secondary server, if there are a few other computer geeks out there on the forum willing to do the same, the amount of traffic on each network would be minimal.
 
It is not a easy solution, but I think it could work and would cost nothing.
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2004, 20:43:00 »
Another suggestion would be for some of the artists on here to come up with a logo of some sort. I‘m sure this forum has a lot of hidden talent.  Personally, I prefer a small logo as opposed to something in your face.  Just a suggestion.
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Re: Recouping Temporary Site Costs
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2004, 22:09:00 »
Silly me, there is an easier solution.

Don‘t know if you are aware of this, there are companies that will host your forum for about $5-10 a month that will allow for over 2G of network traffic. This one may be of bennifit:

 http://phpbb-host.org/

This sight will host your forum for free, but don‘t know if they will let you use the army.ca address without paying.
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