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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2009, 19:30:51 »
As someone serving in an infantry bn I find it hard to believe they are not hiring infantry... there are a lot of vacant spots in our unit.

For the guy who says he will go south of the border to join, I would suggest you think very long and hard about this. Think of doing your time and getting a call 7 years down the line saying you have to report back to a US base in 2 weeks or face jail time. Perhaps the stop loss program where they wont let you leave is appealing as well? Seriously, think long and hard about joining the US military, its not worth it.

For those who would consider joining their 2nd choice, tanker or artillery, also think long and hard about it. If you are really interested in being an infanteer, you are going to strongly regret your choice. Trust me, being an infanteer is worth the wait.

Push your case at the recuiting centre and tell them you are only interested in infantry and want nothing else. They may be trying to fill those red trades with those who are opting on a green one.

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I can't believe this whole topic.  So Infantry is full at the momment.  That means that there are enough people currently hired to fill the Training Systems slots for BMQ and then DP1 Infantry.  There are only so many Instructors and rooms, etc. in the training facilities to accommondate a fixed number of candidates.  Think of when you went to school or applied for any other job.  Were there an infinite number of spots for you?  NO!

Shake your heads.  Patience.  Wait for your first choice or take your Second Choice.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2009, 19:33:49 »
I don't know about that. I've heard stories about people gaining their US citizenship by serving in Iraq. There is probably a large % of non-US citizens, from Mexico and other Central American countries, serving in a US branch of service.

I'm certainly not going to sit around for 8 more months, hoping my application isn't misplaced, when I could TRY and join as an infantryman in a US force, regardless of weather or not I actually get in, I'm not going to sit around. If they take me, even better.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2009, 19:34:40 »
I don't know about that. I've heard stories about people gaining their US citizenship by serving in Iraq. There is probably a large % of non-US citizens, from Mexico and other Central American countries, serving in a US branch of service.

I'm certainly not going to sit around for 8 more months, hoping my application isn't misplaced, when I could TRY and join as an infantryman in a US force, regardless of weather or not I actually get in, I'm not going to sit around. If they take me, even better.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2009, 19:35:38 »
I don't know about that. I've heard stories about people gaining their US citizenship by serving in Iraq.

Reread what I posted....  You either must already be a US Citizen or hold a Green Card.  So yes those with a Green Card after meeting the pre-reqs can get US Citizenship.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2009, 19:38:22 »
Then don't let the door hit you on the way out.........
I want to be an infantryman, our army won't take me... so you don't need to be rude.

I'm fiercely patriotic. Even run a website about Canadian soldiers, that I spend most of my free time on... I just want be a soldier, and I'm way over due joining up as it is. I don't think waiting 8 more months is a good option for me.

So I really hope that somehow for me, this doesn't turn out to be so.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2009, 19:41:16 »
Thats a bit extreme...  yes people have been stop lossed, but not every Soldier or Marine has been affected by it.

I served 14 months on a private detail in Iraq in 05/06, and I cant even count how many people I met who were either stop lossed, or called back into service. I met a MSgt who had served in Vietnam and was called back 20 years later because he was the only person they could find who knew how to do his job. It is a VERY real part of joining the US military, and anyone thinking about it should be aware of it.

I really suggest sitting tight and waiting this one out. Yeah, it may be full now, but if you really want something, isnt it worth waiting for? By the time one was to go through the process of joining the US military it wouldnt have taken much longer than joining our own.

Dont worry about whether or not they take you though, standards have gotten lower over the years, and if you are looking to serve as a cog in a machine Im sure they have a spot for you.

G.W., well, from all the stories I hear from tankers, they certainly are single handedly winning the war over there.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2009, 19:50:40 »
I want to be an infantryman, our army won't take me... so you don't need to be rude.

I'm fiercely patriotic. Even run a website about Canadian soldiers, that I spend most of my free time on... I just want be a soldier, and I'm way over due joining up as it is. I don't think waiting 8 more months is a good option for me.

So I really hope that somehow for me, this doesn't turn out to be so.


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Joining the military, any military, is not "Your Right".

You have to meet the criteria.  It is a hard earned priviledge.  Your patriotic stance looses all credibility with your statement that you can join another nation's military.  Your whole credibility is pretty well summed up now.

Guess that sums this up.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2009, 19:51:04 »
I just want to be a soldier. If my own country "isn't hiring" flipping infantry, and the US army will take me, I will absolutely cross the border next week and peruse that... rather than twiddle my thumbs for another 8 months. I'd rather not go that route, but I can't wait any longer. It's been long enough.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2009, 19:56:53 »
I just want to be a soldier. If my own country "isn't hiring" flipping infantry, and the US army will take me, I will absolutely cross the border next week and peruse that... rather than twiddle my thumbs for another 8 months. I'd rather not go that route, but I can't wait any longer. It's been long enough.
 Dont Join the U.S ARMY if you really want join the British army it will take less time in the US but around the same time as CND  either way your waiting for 8 months to a year.

Are you a card carrying Status Indian or an American citizen?  If not you can not join the US military.  Even the French Foreign Legion is not taking "just anyone" off the streets anymore.  And; the US does not have a Foreign Legion.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2009, 19:57:49 »
I am applying for infantry. I was supposed to go for the one day processing about a month ago now and never got the call to actually go. I have been calling my recruiter every couple days since then leaving messages but he never gets back to me. I have even emailed numerous times. I guess this is why. All I can say is I am freaking waiting and when my time comes I am going to be very happy.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2009, 19:58:08 »
I just want to be a soldier. If my own country "isn't hiring" flipping infantry, and the US army will take me, I will absolutely cross the border next week and peruse that... rather than twiddle my thumbs for another 8 months. I'd rather not go that route, but I can't wait any longer. It's been long enough.
 Dont Join the U.S ARMY if you really want join the British army it will take less time in the US but around the same time as CND  either way your waiting for 8 months to a year.

Good riddance, obviously you don't love your country enough to find another occupation that would suit you while serving it, so you'll just jump ship. Maybe you just want to be a super-ninja sniper and you think the infantry is your only route there.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2009, 20:05:09 »
Good riddance, obviously you don't love your country enough to find another occupation that would suit you while serving it, so you'll just jump ship. Maybe you just want to be a super-ninja sniper and you think the infantry is your only route there.

brandon_ was actually quoting erikh.  It's hard to tell but there is a [/quote] at the end of the first statement.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2009, 20:08:06 »

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Joining the military, any military, is not "Your Right".

You have to meet the criteria.  It is a hard earned priviledge.  Your patriotic stance looses all credibility with your statement that you can join another nation's military.  Your whole credibility is pretty well summed up now.

Guess that sums this up.
I know... I never claimed it to be my or anyone's right. It's certainly a privileged and honor to be able to serve your country... and I will very likely not persue the US or any other army, I'm just a little ticked that I had to find out like this, two days before I though I finally might completed the process. Now I've gotta stay doing my mindless work and waste away for another 8 months, if I even am accepted.

However, I think you've got an odd view on Canadians serving in another force. What about that Canadian pilot who was turned away here, but went to the British forces and was awarded some kind of decoration for his service not too long ago? say what about his credibility and patriotism?
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2009, 20:08:41 »
Have you guys considered becoming a combat engineer?

Also, maybe look at going armoured as a coyote crew. They do a lot of dismounted recce work according to the video on recruit site.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2009, 20:10:29 »
I want to be an infantryman, our army won't take me... so you don't need to be rude.

I'm fiercely patriotic. Even run a website about Canadian soldiers, that I spend most of my free time on... I just want be a soldier, and I'm way over due joining up as it is. I don't think waiting 8 more months is a good option for me.

So I really hope that somehow for me, this doesn't turn out to be so.

You want to be an infantryman and think a little remark like that is rude? Did it offend you?
You cant wait out for a little bit until you get the call? Get used to this,"Hurry Up and WAIT"
I think you need to take a step back and reflect on what you really want. Do you really want to soldier, OR just be called one. IF you want to be in the infantry, take the time it takes to process your application as a gift. Train, prepare physically for it. When you finally get to be in uniform, youll be ready.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2009, 20:17:34 »
You want to be an infantryman and think a little remark like that is rude? Did it offend you?
You cant wait out for a little bit until you get the call? Get used to this,"Hurry Up and WAIT"
I think you need to take a step back and reflect on what you really want. Do you really want to soldier, OR just be called one. IF you want to be in the infantry, take the time it takes to process your application as a gift. Train, prepare physically for it. When you finally get to be in uniform, youll be ready.

And, most US Army soldiers I talked to in the FOB were stop-lossed,and none to happy about it.
I'm just pretty pissed off right now. I was flipping ready to go May 1, but I developed an eye problem (ghosting - because I was worried about my vision, I brilliantly started using eye drops, that ended up drying out my eyes, giving me the ghosting) that delayed my application for two months while I had my eyes checked by a specialist. Just when I think that it might be complete, I hear about this. I'm just gonna go kick myself for a while now, or ram my head into a brick wall.

I would of liked to of heard if from them, but maybe this is better, because it would been an even loooonger walk home come Thursday.

Still hoping my file was advanced enough to have a shot this year.
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2009, 20:23:49 »
Also, maybe look at going armoured as a coyote crew. They do a lot of dismounted recce work according to the video on recruit site.


The few times I saw Armour Recce guys overseas they were either driving their coyote, or set up an observing. Didn't see them doing dismounted patrols as part of their job. Not to say they don't an I'm sure an actual Armour Recce guy can go into more details on the job.

Only times I saw Armour guys doing dismounted patrolling was when they volunteered to go out on patrol with the OMLT in our loc. The Recce guy only did it once.. walking through grape fields wasn't his thing. An the tanker(also only went once) that went out with us really appreciated his tank after his patrol haha.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2009, 20:24:55 »
As one who actually went and joined USMC 30+ years ago, when they were more than happy to take 30,000 of us in various forms, it still took 8 months to do the clearances/immigration/etc.....

My oldest who's in the CF briefly considered doing the same thing and was told exactly what Skeltor and GW said......so if you are still intent on it....knock yourself out.....

I don't suppose any of these future GI Joe's ever considered canvassing the other trades available that are eminently as satisfying/action packed/demanding....but what do I know, I'm one of those furner fellas......?
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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2009, 20:38:11 »
Well, since no-one has provided any further useful information addressing the original post, and the thread has turned into a dogpile.  We're done and locked.

Ask a staff member to open the thread if you have something useful to add.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2009, 11:13:58 »
I was told that they will not be selecting Infantry until April 2010, but that's the occupation I really want in the Army, so I'm willing to wait until then.  My question is in regards to BMQ...

Even though they aren't hiring more Infantry until April 2010, would the pre-emptively send someone through BMQ prior to that deadline so that when they leave BMQ, they'll be able to go through SQ and MOC almost immediately after finishing BMQ?  Hopefully I said that well enough.  It makes sense in my head, haha.

Someone also mentioned that if I only want Infantry, I should put only that in my first occupation choice and leave 2 and 3 empty.  Is that okay to do?  I don't want to end up looking bad in the eyes of the Army I suppose, so I want to make sure I know all this before I start with the process.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give!

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2009, 11:25:12 »
To go to BMQ, you need to have a job offer- which will apparently not be happening until April 2010 for infantry.

As for what to put on your form, etc, from everything I've read here you should really be contacting your CFRC and speaking to someone who can focus on your situation as everything is done case by case.
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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2009, 11:26:23 »

 would the pre-emptively send someone through BMQ prior to that deadline

No.

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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2009, 11:27:29 »
Someone also mentioned that if I only want Infantry, I should put only that in my first occupation choice and leave 2 and 3 empty.  Is that okay to do?

Yes, that is ok.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2009, 11:31:52 »
To go to BMQ, you need to have a job offer- which will apparently not be happening until April 2010 for infantry.

As for what to put on your form, etc, from everything I've read here you should really be contacting your CFRC and speaking to someone who can focus on your situation as everything is done case by case.

I have been, but see he said they were still hiring for Infantry, but everyone else has told me that they were not.  So I sent him an email two weeks ago but he hasn't responded yet.

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Yes, that is ok.

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Re: Re: Trades OPEN / CLOSED 2005-2018
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2009, 11:38:43 »
I have been, but see he said they were still hiring for Infantry, but everyone else has told me that they were not.  So I sent him an email two weeks ago but he hasn't responded yet.

If you want to get confirmation from someone you can always call them, anyone there should be able to answer your question accurately.

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