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Avionics Systems Technician ( AVS )
« on: January 17, 2006, 09:52:27 »
I'm planning to join the air force as an AVS tech I was wandering how is the training? And how is the work condition after? And what is the average age of the students. Thanks.

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Re: AVS training
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2006, 10:17:21 »
You start your training by doing your POET in Kingston during 8 months. Over there you'll learn all about electronics. Once completed, you'll go back to Borden and finish up your AVS QL3 for 6 months. Once its done you'll get posted somewhere and start working on the A/C with a supervisor or a journeyman.
The average of my class was about 26 years old. You'll meet poeple from all ages and all around the country.
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Avionics Systems Technician ( AVS )
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 11:45:55 »
Hey guys, I an AVS student here in Borden aka bordom, lol

Ive finished POET and will be starting my AVS 3's in Late march this year.

There is a lot of rumor and speculation on which base is going to be the best for your carreer. Eg. Trenton is to big, ull be just another grey man etc etc

Mabey if some of you guys have any experience with bases across canada, you can shed some light and mabey help me make a more informed decision, when it comes time to go to my Sqn.

Thx

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Re: AVS Postings
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 18:55:48 »
I'm not sure what individual units are like, but Cold Lake is a great base if you aren't single and like outdoor activities like fishing and hunting.

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Re: AVS Postings
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2006, 21:36:40 »
Cold Lake or Comox would be my pick for career and location. Both career/experience and location are important factors in getting a good start in the military. Cold Lake may be a bit isolated and could be a bit of a challenge as far as social life goes but it's a great place to work and live. Also if you have never experienced the" great Canadian outdoors" Cold Lake is a great experience. Wimmen ain't everything.
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Re: AVS training
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2006, 17:57:34 »
Hey, just a heads up if you have not already heard.

The AVS TP changed a bit... im on course here in CFSATE now and were looking at changes.

6 months Kingston for POET

and 12 to 18 months for QL3 in Borden.

Were the pilot course for it now...bring on the fun!

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Re: AVS training
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2006, 12:05:27 »
can somebody confirm that this trade is spec pay?

i can't seem to find the info   ???
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Re: AVS training
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 12:08:45 »
can somebody confirm that this trade is spec pay?

i can't seem to find the info   ???

Yes.......AVS is part of the specialist 1 pay group

if you couldnt find that i suspect you are blind.

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Re: AVS training
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2006, 12:20:08 »
wow
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AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 21:52:29 »
Hey all,

Just curious to know what should I expect when I arrive in Shearwater for my 3's later this year. How is training is conducted there? I know they bus you from the base to school. Do you get mixed with civi's on the program? Or is it all military in the class? Which campus is it in by the way?

Also, is there a March Break just like here in CFSATE? That's if you still have annuals left. Or is it continuous trg with only Christmas break?

Thanks for all the input,
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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 20:54:30 »
some avs buddies of mine have done the course so i'll ask
but I imagine you will get christmas, march break and summer block leave in order to use up all 20 days
I'll post when I know more
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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2007, 22:05:04 »
I took the civie course last year at NSCC and can answer a few of your questions.  When I was there the military had their own classes that were separate and were taught by different instructors than the civie program.  Also the course is run out of 4 Hanger at Shearwater.

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2007, 15:58:50 »
Hey,

I took the shearwater avs 3's course, you march from the shacks to 4 hanger in shearwater for class. its a civy school with civy planes. shacks there are way better than borden, you get yopur own room with free cable tv and fridge!

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2007, 16:04:08 »
hey guys, im looking to do some studying on avionics before i consider joining, any books you recommend i could buy? thanks

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2007, 06:57:00 »
  Check this website out for electronics theory....www.allaboutcircuits.com
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AVS Tech Question
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2008, 15:44:19 »
My fingerprints were sent away beginning of December 07, when they are back and I'm granted security clearance, I will be merit listed. Does anyone have any idea when I might actually start basic?? How long is the training in Borden? And what does QL3 mean??  Thankyou...

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Re: AVS Tech Question
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2008, 15:55:51 »
My fingerprints were sent away beginning of December 07, when they are back and I'm granted security clearance, I will be merit listed. Does anyone have any idea when I might actually start basic?? How long is the training in Borden? And what does QL3 mean??  Thankyou...

Fingerprints? 

Basic?

QL3?

If you were fingerprinted, you can expect that process to take some time.  As that is not the norm, your embarking on Basic (BMQ) will be another delay.  QL3 is your Trades Training, in your case the AVS Tech Course. 

All times are dependent on your first passing the Security Screening and then when an opening on a BMQ Course becomes available after that.  We can only guess.  Three months to two years.
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Re: AVS Tech Question
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 16:40:43 »
Ahhhh.....that's what I was figuring. Thankyou for the reply. Another question, on the recruiting website, it says QL3 in Borden is 24 months, but I've read that it has changed. Do you know how long it is?

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Re: AVS Tech Question
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 17:19:55 »
Ahhhh.....that's what I was figuring. Thankyou for the reply. Another question, on the recruiting website, it says QL3 in Borden is 24 months, but I've read that it has changed. Do you know how long it is?


Where you read it had changed, did it not give specifics on what the change was to?

There is a sub-board on this site called Maintainer's Bench.  There are some great posts on it about AVS, and it should help answer your question and lots others that you might come up with.  You can also use the 'Search' function to track down more information.
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Re: AVS training
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2008, 03:20:39 »
OK - I have a few questions on this - assuming I have the correct trade - Avionics Systems Technician???

I was wondering what the course layout was like. I get BMQ - first month confined to quarters basically, next few weeks you have weekend off(at the instructors good graces), can take leave - visit family and whatnot.

Are the AVS courses set up like this as well, with weekend leaves available? Or is is more the 24/7 except for block leave. I ask this simply because my better half is very worried that I'm going to disappear off the face of the planet until I'm done training - and because of his job would be unable/unwilling to move until I had a posting out of training.

Thanks in Advance :)

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Re: AVS training
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2008, 09:15:28 »
     As an AVS tech who has spent some time in Borden, I can probably answer some of your questions. When you arrive at CFSATE from BMQ, you will be given a few relocation days off to clear into the base. Then you will become part of the PAT Platoon. (Personnel awaiting training) while awaiting your POET course in Kingston. I had a 4 month wait for my POET, but there are a lot less people there than when I first arrived there so the waits have not been as long. The new PAT staff have greatly improved PAT in the last few months. There are a lot more taskings and a lot less sitting in the canteen staring at the walls. That being said, it is what you make of it and keeping in mind you are getting paid a heck of a lot plus banking pensionable time will help keep you in perspective.

      If your course does not start for a while, you will have the opportunity to take leave. As far as weekend leave, you will get every weekend off. Unless there is a parade or there are problems in the shacks with behaviour and the SCWO is forced to initiate a weekend inspection. However in the year and a half I was there weekends were threatened to be revoked several times but it never happened. You need a leave pass if you are going beyond a 500 km radius if I remember correctly. You do need one for Quebec. If you are staying in the radius but not in the shacks/PMQ, you fill out the weekend locater. Simple as that. So as far as you husband/BF/whatever worrying about you disappearing for a while, no need. If he lives in Ontario, you will be seeing him quite frequently.

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2008, 22:55:50 »
AVS training in Shearwater? Awesome...so once I'm done with the POET training I may be shipped back to Nova Scotia for more? Awesome news...first time I've seen this (not on the forces.ca website at all, no surprise there though).

Is it still being ran this way? Best news Ive come across :)

Oh, and how solid does the math skills have to be? Im a bit rusty, but out of the blue I passed Physics Math (survey physics) by barely scraping by (hard as hell). I heard the military starts at the most basic level when they teach you a skill you need to know for tech courses.

Thanks :)

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2008, 11:20:47 »
      Yes they are still conducting AVS QL3 in Shearwater at NSCC Aviation Institute. I graduated there on March 7 and am now waiting for my message to Cold Lake which has been delayed due to the semi-isolated screening process. I can answer any questions about it you may have, although I assume you still have to go do your POET training. As of now, the seventh serial is beginning tomorrow and I believe the contract is for more two more courses after that minimum. So you may be finish your POET and sent here. However they are still running a limited number of english QL3 in Borden, but that is mostly for people who have been having outstanding "issues", whether administrative or personal. I don't know if you have a family, but as it is five months long you are on a "prohibited" posting when you come here. You cannot get a PMQ or move your family at the Crown's expense. You do not get TD pay or free R and Q either, unless you come IR and collect Sep Expense, which is what the people who leave their families in Borden or wherever do. The nice thing is you can de-link from the rations unlike Borden, but the food here is excellent so it is not necessary. I did though to have a little extra each pay and was still able to eat well by eating in the mess occasionally and buying groceries. You also get a single room while you are here.
     As for the math, it is really nothing to sweat in POET and definitely not here. In POET, they will teach you everything from the basics you need to know. The only math here we did was calculations of frequencies of doppler radar. Kids stuff!
 
            Good luck in POET!

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 17:21:10 »
Hoping to join soon as an AVS in august. Will the course still be in shearwater? I suppose so since from what I have read borden is crammed...

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Re: AVS QL3 - NSCC
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2008, 17:27:07 »
I suppose so since from what I have read borden is crammed...

Why dont you just wait and see.