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Re: CIC to PRes PLAR
« Reply #100 on: April 17, 2014, 15:11:24 »
Thanks for the helpful opinions... so far.

I'm mostly looking for confirmation that someone with an appropriate level of service (say 15 years) can bypass BMQ/BMOQ to start at the level of taking BMOQ-L (aka CAP). Since this is the general consensus of most people, but wanted to know if anyone has recently gone through this experience. If full PLAR was not granted for BMQ/BMOQ, was partial credit given with the exception of any combat related modules.

I was advised the PLAR would be prepared for me by the OR, but I'm trying to be proactive to assist them with the process, since they have not processed this kind of sub-component transfer in a very long time.

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Re: CIC to PRes PLAR
« Reply #101 on: April 17, 2014, 15:25:08 »
Thanks for the helpful opinions... so far.

I'm mostly looking for confirmation that someone with an appropriate level of service (say 15 years) .......



The amount of Service is not the factor.  What is important is how long ago that Regular or PRes Service was.   It used to be that five (5) years was the cut-off, and ten (10) years meant that you would have to redo all.  What the current policy is, will have to be for a current CFRG member to say.
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Re: CIC to PRes PLAR
« Reply #102 on: April 17, 2014, 16:07:26 »
Thanks for the helpful opinions... so far.

I'm mostly looking for confirmation that someone with an appropriate level of service (say 15 years) can bypass BMQ/BMOQ to start at the level of taking BMOQ-L (aka CAP). Since this is the general consensus of most people, but wanted to know if anyone has recently gone through this experience. If full PLAR was not granted for BMQ/BMOQ, was partial credit given with the exception of any combat related modules.

I was advised the PLAR would be prepared for me by the OR, but I'm trying to be proactive to assist them with the process, since they have not processed this kind of sub-component transfer in a very long time.

BMQ and BMOQ quals are managed and governed by CDA.  I can't remember the exact order # off hand but something like 12/001 or 001/12 comes to mind.  There is a "table/matrix" which lists equivalancies for both BMQ and BMOQ.  It's fairly comprehensive and anything that falls outside the table, will require additional review (ie; PLARing).  Equivalencies are granted based on previous trg, so "time in" won't get you anything, that I know of.

Sub-Component transfers are tricky at best and not sure if they are sufficiently covered in MILPERSCOM Orders or not.  PM me and I will follow up with you next week.
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Re: CIC to PRes PLAR
« Reply #103 on: April 17, 2014, 16:18:31 »
Have you qualified on C7 and shot PWT1? Have you done the gas hut? CF field communications? Living and working as a dismounted section?

I would suggest that no amount of CIC experience is going to grant equivalencies that should be recognized as writing off some of these absolute fundamentals.

Time in means almost nothing. What have you *done* in that time, and as importantly, where is it formally recorded that you did so?
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Re: Applying Med Tech waiting on PLAR
« Reply #104 on: May 21, 2014, 01:06:28 »
Hello. 

My PLAR process took appx. 4-5 months.  Apparently this is the usual amount of time it takes. 

I was speaking with my recruiters today, and they stated that there are "SOME POSITIONS STILL AVAILABLE" for the semiskilled MED-TECH trade.  As for when I will be merit listed or sworn in, "SOON" was the response. 

Personally, I will take the "some, and soon"!  It is one more step in the right direction. 

Hopefully you hear some good news as well.  Take care and have a great day!
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PLAR sent - JAN 2014
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Prior Learning assessment Review( PLAR ) FAQs
« Reply #105 on: June 24, 2014, 13:26:30 »
Good afternoon.

A PLAR was submitted on my behalf on June 6th.  Can you tell me how long the process normally takes?  I am an older recruit and if it is going to drag on (I have read about some extremely lengthy processing times on here), I will change my application to RMS clerk.  I don't want to be sitting here a year from now, still working at job I dislike.

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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #106 on: June 24, 2014, 15:52:00 »
The Prior Learning Assessment Review (PLAR) is not conducted by recruiting centres/detachments and, as such, it would be inappropriate to speculate on what you may or may not be granted, or the time it will take to complete. Many factors play into the amount of time it can take to complete a PLAR, including the qualifications being sought.

I would advise against making occupation choices based on the amount of time it takes to complete a PLAR, or your discontent with your current job. Furthermore, there is no guarantee that you will be offered a job in any of your occupational choices.

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Prior Learning Assessment Review - PLAR
« Reply #107 on: June 24, 2014, 16:27:33 »
Some of you wishing to join the Canadian Armed Forces, may have special skills or education that can be credited towards your training.  This is where one may need to have a Prior Learning Assessment Review (PLAR) done.  The amount of time that it will take to have a PLAR completed will depend on what Trade you are attempting to enroll in, and the skill sets and/or education you may have.  Everyone is an individual, with different skills and education, and therefore assessed on individual cases, so there is no set time for the completion of the PLAR.

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The Prior Learning Assessment Review (PLAR) is not conducted by recruiting centres/detachments and, as such, it would be inappropriate to speculate on what you may or may not be granted, or the time it will take to complete. Many factors play into the amount of time it can take to complete a PLAR, including the qualifications being sought.

I would advise against making occupation choices based on the amount of time it takes to complete a PLAR, or your discontent with your current job. Furthermore, there is no guarantee that you will be offered a job in any of your occupational choices.
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Re: Applying Med Tech waiting on PLAR
« Reply #108 on: July 18, 2014, 12:03:56 »
Well called CFRC Edmonton this morning and found out that my PLAR and Security Check are both complete! Very exciting news now I am waiting to be merit listed hopefully aiming for the November Selection dates.

Today is a very good day :)
Recruting Center: Edmonton
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Trade Choice 2: N/A
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Interview completed: March. 2014
Medical Completed: March. 2014
PLAR Completed: July 2014
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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #109 on: August 06, 2014, 06:58:02 »
I would like to ask a recruiter what their experience with time frames on PLAR's have been? Mine is at 4 months and counting.  The RC called me a month ago to tell me they spoke to CFRG and it is complete but not yet entered in HRMS.  I know that every case is different but just wondering of recruiters experiences with them.  I have seen a few posts here where it has been said it takes 2-4 months? Is it just a matter of them having a stack of them to enter and just haven't gotten to mine yet?  Everything else is complete, medical, interview CFAT. My VFS is done and Med docs are at the RC so basically my enrolment is waiting on the PLAR. Any information you could provide me would be greatly appreciated. 
Thank You in advance.

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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2014, 07:20:20 »
Good day,

There is no guaranteed amount of time it takes to process an application in part or in whole. Maintain contact with your local recruiting center as to the status of your PLAR.
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PLAR and the Forces
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2014, 17:24:15 »
I released from the forces and have my application in because while civi side I realized the CF is the thing for me. I just have one question I am being told that a PLAR has to happen as part of  my verification of prior service now while I do understand that to some extent I'm applying for all CAF trades and coming from an ACISS background I don't see how courses would be transferable other than BMQ can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2014, 17:31:31 »
I released from the forces and have my application in because while civi side I realized the CF is the thing for me. I just have one question I am being told that a PLAR has to happen as part of  my verification of prior service now while I do understand that to some extent I'm applying for all CAF trades and coming from an ACISS background I don't see how courses would be transferable other than BMQ can anyone shed some light on this for me?

Thanks in advance.

You need to be a tad bit more specific.  "I'm, applying for all CAF trades" , just doesn't help.  Oh and a "release date" also helps.
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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2014, 17:33:01 »
You need to be a tad bit more specific.  "I'm, applying for all CAF trades" , just doesn't help.

Sorry applying for Air weapons system tech, Aerospace Control Operator, Avionics system tech

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2014, 17:43:18 »
Sorry applying for Air weapons system tech, Aerospace Control Operator, Avionics system tech

Better.  Because you have prior service and obviously reached the OFP (ie; QL3) in your prior CF occupation, a PLAR is mandatory.  Only because your CFRC does not have the authority to grant you BMQ nor any other prior CF qualifications.  Whilst the PLAR is in progress, your application will not move forward until the PLAR results are completed.
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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2014, 17:57:37 »
Understood do you have an idea if it would be faster since the only course I have that is relevant is BMQ?

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2014, 18:36:02 »
Understood do you have an idea if it would be faster since the only course I have that is relevant is BMQ?

They look at all your courses, not just BMQ/BMQ-L.

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2014, 20:26:41 »
They look at all your courses, not just BMQ/BMQ-L.

Ok thanks a lot for the information everyone

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #118 on: August 12, 2014, 09:28:53 »
Understood do you have an idea if it would be faster since the only course I have that is relevant is BMQ?

I have been waiting for almost 5 months for a PLAR.  I am going from one tech trade to another and there are a lot of exemptions in training. That being said, every case is different so maybe yours may go faster. But if you prepare to wait a while you won't be disappointed. Good luck!

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #119 on: August 12, 2014, 10:18:57 »
Sorry applying for Air weapons system tech, Aerospace Control Operator, Avionics system tech

POET would transfer to AVS and probably allow you to skip Basic Electrical for AWS. Plus bmq, maybe end up with some credited for promotion. A plar is never going to hurt you.

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Re: PLAR part of VPS?
« Reply #120 on: August 12, 2014, 12:49:16 »
POET would transfer to AVS and probably allow you to skip Basic Electrical for AWS. Plus bmq, maybe end up with some credited for promotion. A plar is never going to hurt you.

I didn't take poet as I went through for ACISS core or sig op

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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #121 on: August 25, 2014, 22:42:05 »
Hello,

Just got a quick question in regards to the PLAR. I graduated from a college program that the Canadian Forces sends their subsidized members to take. Though I wasn't in the military, I still took the program. In terms of the PLAR, do they look for anything different if it was a military approved program? or does it not affect the time in which the PLAR takes at all?
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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2014, 23:11:11 »
I guess my real question would be, what else do they look at in the PLAR if you already graduated from a cirriculum that's military approved?
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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2014, 08:30:16 »
Good day,

The PLAR is used to assess all prior education and qualifications including courses taken by prior serving members who are applying for reenlistment into the Canadian Armed Forces related to the chosen occupation on the current application. Courses change over time and a PLAR is used to determine what knowledge gained from previous qualifications match the current requirements of the training for the occupation and may result in the granting of some qualifications towards the current courses/occupation standards.

For example if you've already done a basic military qualification course and the course has not changed then an individual would be granted that qualification and not have to redo the course if they are re-enrolled.   
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Re: PLAR Timeline
« Reply #124 on: August 26, 2014, 13:08:59 »
Thank you for you quick response. Coincidently I got a call earlier saying the PLAR came back golden and that I'm set for an interview in a week and a half :).
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