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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2011, 11:36:57 »
Will I get paid too?
I realized I phrased that question wrong.
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2011, 11:40:24 »
Will I get paid too?
I realized I phrased that question wrong.
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2011, 11:43:05 »
Will I get paid too?
I realized I phrased that question wrong.
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Yes, you will get paid too. I understood what you were asking, i'm not stupid.

From day one of BMQ, you are a salaried "employee" of the government. If there is time between BMQ and your trades training, you are employed in some capacity while you are waiting and thus get paid.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2011, 11:45:55 »
Hahaha
I'm not implying anyone on here would be a smart alek because of a poorly phrased question..(also sarcasm)

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2011, 11:47:08 »
Even if you take leave between courses, you will be paid.
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2011, 23:56:32 »
Forgive my ignorance but what leave can you get between courses, is it paid vacation or something else. I am starting Bmq aug. 29 th

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 00:16:19 »
You file a CF100. It is either approved or denied by your chain of command. You are given a certain amount of annual leave (not sure exactly how much) that you can use depending on your time in. Sometimes you will be allowed to go on leave, sometimes not, depending on many reasons.

All annual leave is paid.
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 13:34:38 »
Apparently you get 20 days paid vacation from day one, can somebody clarify if taking leave is separate from these vacation days or is taking leave and paid vacation the same thing.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2011, 13:41:15 »
Apparently you get 20 days paid vacation from day one, can somebody clarify if taking leave is separate from these vacation days or is taking leave and paid vacation the same thing.
20 days annual paid leave.  They're the same thing. 
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2011, 13:54:47 »
20 days annual paid leave.  They're the same thing.

To make it a LITTLE easier to understand, those 20 days annual leave are on top of statuatory holidays (which sometimes you may not get depending on how training/exercises/operations are going).  You do not have to spend an Annual day for a statuatory holiday or weekend.
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2011, 20:39:01 »
Thank you that's the answer I was looking for. Another question, does seniority affect what times of the year lower ranked persons are allowed leave.
 

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2011, 21:06:04 »
Not usually, there are enough lackeys around to cover off your position There is however "Block Leave" Which is the timeframe where everyone is encouraged to take their leave. But all of these questions will be covered in detail during your BMQ lessons. The various types of leave being one of them.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2011, 21:32:53 »
There is however "Block Leave"

Not everyone in the CF lives by block leave. There are entire CF units that do not get to shut down because it is summer or because it is Christmas time.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2011, 11:19:32 »
Thanks for the answers this helps.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2011, 19:16:41 »
Not everyone in the CF lives by block leave. There are entire CF units that do not get to shut down because it is summer or because it is Christmas time.

My unit doesnt "Shut Down" Either. Simply has alot of people on leave at the same time.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2014, 08:30:18 »
1) When you're waiting to go on course, are you required to live in barracks, or are you permitted to live off-base with a SO? I understand during training that SOs have no place to live with you until after you get posted (and even then, that depends on marriage/common-law).

2) Moving from infantry to med tech, out of pure curiosity, will there be much kit to give back to stores, or since they'll both be army trades the kit will be the same?

Thank you in advance for the help.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2014, 16:49:36 »
You are not guaranteed to stay army when switching from Infantry to Med Tech. Med Tech is a purple trade, so it can be any element.  I know of one infanteer who is now an Air Force medic and another who was armoured and is now navy. Depends on what the military needs. In the past I was told the military likes to have 60% army, 20% air and 20% navy. These percentages may have changed in the last few years.

On Pat Platoon, if you do not wish to live in shacks, you can write a memo through your CoC requesting permission to live off base. Again, no guarantees. You may still be required to maintain a bed space in the shacks for inspections etc. You can also apply to do OJT/OJE at your home city if there is a base nearby. I was lucky enough to get to go home during 6 of the 9 month wait for my course. Others filled their time doing driver wheel courses and being patients for the med students.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2014, 13:55:12 »
Yes, that was very helpful, thank you very much!

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2014, 10:04:55 »
You are not guaranteed to stay army when switching from Infantry to Med Tech. Med Tech is a purple trade, so it can be any element.  I know of one infanteer who is now an Air Force medic and another who was armoured and is now navy. Depends on what the military needs. In the past I was told the military likes to have 60% army, 20% air and 20% navy. These percentages may have changed in the last few years.

On Pat Platoon, if you do not wish to live in shacks, you can write a memo through your CoC requesting permission to live off base. Again, no guarantees. You may still be required to maintain a bed space in the shacks for inspections etc. You can also apply to do OJT/OJE at your home city if there is a base nearby. I was lucky enough to get to go home during 6 of the 9 month wait for my course. Others filled their time doing driver wheel courses and being patients for the med students.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

If I end up doing my OJT (which is 18 months), will I finish my OJT before I go on course, or will they cut it short, send me on course, then after that continue my OJT?
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Application Date (Online): March, 2013
Documents Received: April, 2013
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First Contact: August 19th, 2013
CFAT: October 25th, 2013 PASSED
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2014, 16:15:17 »
How do you know your OJT is 18 months? Is it a trade specific thing?
As a medic, I was told we don't have OJT anymore, only OJE. OJE has no definite set lengths, so it finishes when you are finally loaded onto your course. And no guarantees of returning to that same clinic after your 3s.
YMMV

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2014, 19:57:03 »
How do you know your OJT is 18 months? Is it a trade specific thing?
As a medic, I was told we don't have OJT anymore, only OJE. OJE has no definite set lengths, so it finishes when you are finally loaded onto your course. And no guarantees of returning to that same clinic after your 3s.
YMMV

Yes OJT is trade specific. Different trades have different lengths depending on how technical they are
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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2014, 07:18:54 »
How do you know your OJT is 18 months? Is it a trade specific thing?
As a medic, I was told we don't have OJT anymore, only OJE. OJE has no definite set lengths, so it finishes when you are finally loaded onto your course. And no guarantees of returning to that same clinic after your 3s.
YMMV

I know this, because my File Manager told me it was 18 months of OJT for Vehicle Tech.
Recruiting Centre: CFVRC/Halifax
Regular/Reserve: Regular
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade Choice 1: Vehicle Tech
Trade Choice 2: Infantry
Trade Choice 3: Combat Engineer
Application Date (Online): March, 2013
Documents Received: April, 2013
File Transferred to Halifax: August 2013
First Contact: August 19th, 2013
CFAT: October 25th, 2013 PASSED
Medical Part 1: October 25th, 2013  PASSED
Interview: March 13, 2014 PASSED
Medical Part 2: March 18th, 2014 PASSED
BMQ Start Date: July 21st, 2014

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2014, 07:35:57 »
Veh tech ojt can be 6 months up to 2 years. I saw more than that but it was due to parental leave. But most of my course did it in 18 months.

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Re: After BMQ - PAT [Merged]
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2014, 06:17:19 »
I'm currently on PAT Pl until end of September when i start poet and I got approved to get a pmq with my SO with no hassles, it's very easy to get a pmq all you need to do is put a request to vacate through your CoC
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