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House Hunting Trip (HHT) Lore (merged)
« on: June 07, 2006, 11:43:06 »
Hi everyone, I am waiting for a phone call from the CAFRC as I re-enlist as a marine mechanic in Esquimalt, BC.  I left the Navy in 1995.  I want to know how the House hunting trip works when you re-enlist fully qualified.  I know when you start fro stcratch with BMQ, all these steps come together as you go but when you skip BMQ and QL3, when do you get to go with your family for the HHT??  Do they send me to Esquimalt first to start my posting and then fly my family a few weeks later to look for a place to stay or do I get to fly over there with my family for a week before I go to my posting??  My wife doesn't know anything about being a military wife and she is a bite concerned about the whole "moving away fast" kind of thing.  BTW, all the recruting process is done, I am on the merit list, expecting a call any day now.  They told me I would get the call within 2 weeks from now.

Thanks for your input!

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Re: re-enlisting as qualified, question about house hunting trip...
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2006, 14:37:38 »
Best way to find out is to call the base and ask to speak to the Remax HHT reps.

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Re: re-enlisting as qualified, question about house hunting trip...
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2006, 18:09:35 »
yeah, thanks for the tip, I will call tomorrow...
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2007, 21:52:27 »
I am just about finished my first TOS. I am realeasing and re-enlisting to P-RES. Regarding my entitlements, do you get a house hunting trip back to where you enlisted in the first place?

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Re: HHT
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 21:59:43 »

Addendum 3: Move to Intended Place of Residence on Release (IPR)

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A3.07   Criteria Table

The following table depicts the IPR relocation benefits, based on period of continuous Regular Force service and appropriate release item.

Period of continuous service - Less than 10 years of continuous Regular Force service

Release Item -

2 – Unsatisfactory Service.
3 – Medical.
4(a) – On Request
4(b) – On Request Completion of Engagement; and
5 – Service Completed

IPR location - Move to place of enrolment or move to any location provided that the cost does not exceed the move to the place of enrolment.

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Re: HHT
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2007, 08:13:52 »
Thanx for the quick reply. Respect.

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2008, 23:08:46 »
Hey,

If you are authorized to have a 7 day HHT (5 days +2 days travel), and you complete it much quicker, I understand that you can put the money saved (food, incidentals, lodging) into your personal/ customized relocation fund.  I read though that this is capped at $250.  My question is, is this $250 per day or $250 total?

Thanks! 

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2008, 23:25:03 »
I've done this 5 times.........so heres my advice :

Take the full 7 days.

The 250 aint worth it.

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2008, 08:50:16 »
I agree, if you're done the HHT, just have a little "vacation" instead.  Does this mean you found a house?
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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2008, 13:37:07 »
So you both are advocating that he commit fraud?
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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2008, 13:40:20 »
So you both are advocating that he commit fraud?

Nope. On all my HHTs i have found a place fairly quickly but , in my experience, theres always something else that should be done with your time there to smoothen the transition. Wether its the kid's school, wife's job, setting up utilities and such at the new location, etc,etc,etc........

Besides, as i have found out recently, changing your flights on such short notice costs more than the money DND would save.

« Last Edit: July 27, 2008, 13:45:48 by CDN Aviator »

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2008, 13:41:39 »
Just pulling your chain. ;D
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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2008, 13:45:03 »
Just pulling your chain. ;D

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 13:56:47 »
Home inspection has gone hinky.  Gotta stay at least one more night....
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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 14:00:30 »
Home inspection has gone hinky.  Gotta stay at least one more night....

......and thats why you stay the entire time.

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2008, 17:47:59 »
So you both are advocating that he she commit fraud?

Nope, the bank/lawyer/inspection stuff usually takes at least a day or so, which means you pretty much have to put your offer in on the Wednesday of your HHT.  While you're waiting for the bank/lawyer/inspection stuff, if you have a cell phone, you can be having a "vacation" (hence the reason I put it in quotation marks).  ;D

Want to talk about fraud?  I would love to see all those people busted who fly home on HLTA but claim the mileage so they will get more money.  >:( 
I used to only get about $167 back for a $600 flight from Ottawa to Fredericton.   :-\
« Last Edit: July 27, 2008, 17:50:45 by PMedMoe »
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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2008, 08:41:03 »
In answering the original question, it is $250 total.  I took it last time only because we had made an offer on a house before we left and so the process was shortened significantly.

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Re: Shorter House Hunting trip
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2008, 12:47:08 »
Nope. On all my HHTs i have found a place fairly quickly but , in my experience, theres always something else that should be done with your time there to smoothen the transition. Wether its the kid's school, wife's job, setting up utilities and such at the new location, etc,etc,etc........

Besides, as i have found out recently, changing your flights on such short notice costs more than the money DND would save.

ahh - but the HHT is not for this, it is only for finding living accm - once you have secured a place your HHT ends and you are suposed to return home. I secured my place the very last day of my HHT and headed home - right by the book.  >:D
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Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 07:28:08 »
I have a quick question i want answered. If you can not answer it Please don't post useless responces.

We only have 1 hour with IRPP cause the course messed up our student admin periods.

I am getting posted in a month and im curious. My plan is to move to the shacks right away and leave my F and E at there current location,then proceed to look for a house. Now when i get to my posting can i use my house hounding trip at anytime i submit a memo ? Also can i do my own move were the military will give me a lump sum move?

If anyone can answer these questions post up your answer if you can't hit the next topic button

Thanks.

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Re: Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 10:01:31 »
1 hour is plenty of time for your IRP rep to answer your question.

I would never take any answer you get from army.ca as policies change. 

You would get a better response if you typed these questions in an email and fired them off to your IRP consultant, instead of posting them on army.ca and demanding an answer.

If you have time to post here, then you have time to send an email to IRP.

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Re: Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2009, 06:47:14 »
Why would you need a house "hunting" trip if you will already be living there?
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Re: Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 23:23:32 »
Why would you need a house "hunting" trip if you will already be living there?

The OP is likely proceeding to the new location on IR and intends to move F&E/ dependants later on. Thus the OP is entitled to an HHT like everyone else where he gets time off work and bring the significant other to the new location to look for suitable housing.

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Re: Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2009, 00:32:04 »
Being on IR and getting a house hunting trip, sounds like the IRP folks left that policy alone, I am sure they can save some money if they scrap that option.   We will get that kick in the junk with next years policy.

You shouldn't have to submit a memo for the house hunting trip, *shakes head* what am I thinking, the memo is the back bone of the CF.  It's the only place where you would have to submit a memo, requesting a memo writing course. 

You might want to read through the IRP policy manual, heck get one for the wife too.  I bet you will find that all your questions will be answered.  You should also be familiar with all the benefits and options you will have available to you.  I find my IRP consultant to be somewhat secretive when it comes to that stuff.  For a real kick have a read through the CF Leave Manual so you will be familiar with your leave entitlements (IR posting and going back to get your F&E).

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Re: Quick posting/moving question
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2009, 07:26:05 »
Being on IR and getting a house hunting trip, sounds like the IRP folks left that policy alone, I am sure they can save some money if they scrap that option.   We will get that kick in the junk with next years policy.

Actually, they just changed that this year, and I, for one, am quite happy about it, even though it's too late for me.

It's not easy to find a place to live, sight unseen, and not knowing the area makes it harder.  I'm just glad I was posted to Ottawa and not Vancouver (or some other city I'm not familiar with).  Also, I had a good boss who gave me a day off to come up and check places.  I will say the SE/IR section at CFSU(O) (at least the clerk I was assigned to) did not help at all.
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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2010, 09:30:44 »
I'm hoping somebody will be able to explain to me the new situation my family and I have found ourselves.
My husband joined in March of '09 and left promptly for St. Jean since then he as been in Borden completing his 3's. About 7 weeks ago we were told that he would be posted to Dundurn. We promptly applied for a PMQ and heard nothing. After a few weeks and a couple applications we were told one would not be available until June or August and that we were 4th in line. We were then given our options and chose to go with the house hunting trip so we can live together as a family again. Please keep in mind that it's been 11 months since we've lived together. We were notified this Friday that he was pretty much denied his HHT and if we wanted one I would have to leave by myself on Sunday and take care of it all myself. This left me with 1 day to find a sitter for our 2 children for a week not to mention I really don't feel comfortable buying a house for our family without my husband. So as it stands, he finishes his 3's and the next day he fly's out for an undetermined amount of time without the chance to say goodbye to his family. At least when he was in Borden he could come home every few weeks to see the children but now this option is gone. He has also been told that when he gets there he has 7 days to find his living arrangements which will have to be fully furnished since I cannot ship him our stuff since I will still need it while he is gone. What bothers me the most is that the other person who got posted to Dundurn is getting a HHT so what are we being penalized for? I understand that they are going to give us x amount to help pay for my husbands living quarters but why should we have to have 2 houses? And do they really expect us to stay separated for up to 19 months? Can anyone explain why this is going on? I saw the posting message and it says that we can move with him so why are we not being given the option? I know there is much that I don't know which is why I am asking. Sorry for my rant and I hope that it doesn't sound like I'm just complaining. We knew there was going to be separations but first we were told 4 months then wait another 7 and now this.

I really appreciate any info I can get.