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All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« on: June 10, 2007, 20:42:42 »
I did a search on google, and on here as well.

First, I am wondering if I joined the reserves and I wanted to go in as a PH Tech, where I would probley be stationed. I am Just North of Toronto. Is there any close by? I am also wondering since its a different occupation compared to Infantry, or Armoured would I still have the same type of sched? From the CF website it says that reservists often work one half day a week, and one weekend a month. Would that roughly be the same? Now, if I am stationed say in Borden, then when I would work on the weekend would I sleep on base? Im not sure how this works, and couldent find very much information.

Aside from all that, is it difficult to get in as a PH Tech? It shows that the minimum education is grade 10, which I have. And I also have previous work experience in this trade.

Thanks for taking your time to read this, and hopefully you guys can help me out.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 21:07:46 »
What's a PH Tech, or is it another term for Photo Tech or Imagery Tech.?     :)

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 21:17:13 »
What's a PH Tech, or is it another term for Photo Tech or Imagery Tech.?     :)

MOC 646: Plumbing And Heating Technician (PH TECH)

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 21:19:27 »
D'Oh......... :-[

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2007, 21:19:43 »
Google is your friend.   ;)
 

As is the recruiting website.

Superbeast, as for the rest of your questions, they will be best answered by your local CFRC, as well as the local reserve unit that you would be a member of.  You can find out from CFRC what units in your area have PH techs.  Give that/those units a call, and ask to speak to other PH techs there and get some firsthand knowledge about the trade.  Good luck.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 21:20:48 »
Anyone? (Sorry, I had to get this back on topic)

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2007, 21:21:50 »
Ease up , it was a harmless question.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2007, 21:22:14 »
Well PH Tech is an Air Force trade, so look up your nearest AirRes Sqn/Flight and ask them if they've got a position available. Res schedules are all pretty much the same, 1 night a week 1 weekend a month.
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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 21:25:36 »
I do not believe it is a Trade that is offered to Reservists.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 21:26:05 »
Well PH Tech is an Air Force trade...

I do not believe it is a Trade that is offered to Reservists.

According to the recruiting site, it is actually both Air Force and Army, as well as available part-time.  Superbeast, I edited my post above for you, but others were posted after so you might have missed it.
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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 21:27:02 »
Ease up , it was a harmless question.

No problem, I diden't take it the wrong way. I just wanted to get the thread back on topic

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Well PH Tech is an Air Force trade, so look up your nearest AirRes Sqn/Flight and ask them if they've got a position available. Res schedules are all pretty much the same, 1 night a week 1 weekend a month.

I thought that it is Army/Airforce/Navy?

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2007, 21:30:28 »
if I joined the reserves and I wanted to go in as a PH Tech, where I would probley be stationed

The words "reserves" and "Stationed" don't normally go together, as a reservist you work at you home unit, usually one night a week and or weekends, the only time you would be stationed normally is if you ask for a tasking.

I am Just North of Toronto. Is there any close by?

That I couldn't tell you but I am sure that the recruiting website could (I don't even know if this trade is offered to reservists...

 
I am also wondering since its a different occupation compared to Infantry, or Armoured would I still have the same type of sched? From the CF website it says that reservists often work one half day a week, and one weekend a month. Would that roughly be the same?

The one night and or weekend a week thing is usually a guideline some units parade one night a week others every second weekend, it all depends on the unit.


Now, if I am stationed say in Borden, then when I would work on the weekend would I sleep on base? Im not sure how this works, and couldn't find very much information.

To go along with my first response, if you don't live near by then normally yes you do live on base when on tasking, unless you want to rent an apartment for the summer or how ever long you are there.


Aside from all that, is it difficult to get in as a PH Tech? It shows that the minimum education is grade 10, which I have. And I also have previous work experience in this trade.

That I don't know as it is not my trade I am sure someone will be along to help you out soon.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2007, 21:30:46 »
Hmmm... I haven't met any Army PH Techs... and I know the Airforce has them that's why I suggested that he go and visit an Air Reserve unit. oh well... I tried...
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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2007, 21:31:37 »
I thank everyone for their replys. I visted the CF website, and under Reserves, it does show a job for PH Techs (Part time). I think the best thing for me is to call, and try and get more information. I thought I would try here first though. :P

Thanks again guys for your replys.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2009, 15:27:36 »
 :cdn: I have a few questions regarding the engineering trades in the forces.  The Ph tech trade i know is plumbing and heating, but what i wanted to find out is after your 5 year commitment, are you a licensed plumber?  Say if you wanted to leave the forces and return to civy life, would you have to become an apprentice and learn from the start? Or would you already be a licensed plumber ?

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2009, 10:58:33 »
Well to start off, im not in the PH trade, im an ex-combat engineer, but then jumped over to the trade side of the house, i am a Construction Tech. and to answer your question in a nut shell, will it happen with in 5 years? well frist year is recruit course, then second year should be your aprentice course, then doing 2 years of OJT (on the job training) you will go on your journeyman course. so in the military eyes you are a Qualified PH Tech, how ever you dont have your civi ticket, that is up to you, after doing your journeymans course and getting the hours needed for your trade, you can go challange the exam and if you pass it the military will reimburse your coin for the exam, and boom you have your ticket. Hope this helps you out. Oh if you are joining the military just to get a "ticket" in a trade its cool and all but here is the dirt of it all, its not all trade related things you will do, after all you will learn really fast you are a soldier first.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 21:29:33 »
Here is the way it works. I am a ph tech.

You do your QL3 witch is 6-7 months in gagetown. Upon completing your ql3 you will be posted to a unit and you have a OJT book to fill out. The avg wait is 2-3 years then you are eligible for your QL5 witch is 6 months and in gagetown. Upon completion of this you go back to your unit and in a year's time your CO can write a memo witch allows you challenge your ticket in what ever province you are in. So if you look at it min of 8 years served to be a plumber.

Ill tell you this work civic street and work dnd. The stuff we do is far and beyond what you do in civi street.Its the best move i did was to go to the CF as a PH TECH. There is always a great challenge.

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 18:11:12 »
Hello everyone I'm currently a second year pluming apprentice(also second year sprinkler fitter) interested in joining the armed forces to continue my trade. Just had a few questions that I would really appreciate some feedback on. Is the trade considered a specialist in the army? Would i get to skip the initial seven month training( realize  I have to still complete BMQ) And is there chance to travel and if so how often? Good overall job in the armed forces? Appreciate all and any feedback. have a great day.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 18:27:16 »
Hello everyone I'm currently a second year pluming apprentice(also second year sprinkler fitter) interested in joining the armed forces to continue my trade. Just had a few questions that I would really appreciate some feedback on. Is the trade considered a specialist in the army? Would i get to skip the initial seven month training( realize  I have to still complete BMQ) And is there chance to travel and if so how often? Good overall job in the armed forces? Appreciate all and any feedback. have a great day.


You should look into skilled entry and there may be a signing bonus if you have your coursing completed. As well, you should submit a PLAR (Prior Learning Assessment Review) which will determine what you will be exempt for while on military courses.
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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2011, 18:39:22 »
None of the six entry level construction engineering trades matches with a single civilian trade.  Rather most overlap with multiple civilain trades.  That means that nobody gets a by-pass on the initial training.  However, 2 CAD has an MWO at CFSME with the primary function of conducting PLARs for guys joining the construction engineering trades.  If there are elements of your previous education and experience that credit can be given for, then you will likely get the credit for that portion of the training.


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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2014, 10:56:44 »
Hi.
I have been wanting to sign up for years.  I don't want  anything to get in the way of that now.  Iv been doing night school to get my G3 gas technician ticket. Just did my test and feel good about it.

My question is: will a G3 Gas Technician ticket  count as any experience for plumbing and heating?

Iv been trying to get a plumbing/gas technician apprenticeship for years.  But ontario is soo cluttered with people that it's very very hard to get more education/job experience.

Iv always wanted to serve my country! I think about all the time.  Time to stop thinking and start doing. My wife is very supportive and thinks military life is the life for me.  She is also willing to relocate.

My goal (if accepted to the Canadian Forces) is to sign on as a PH Tech and when done move on to Refrigeration Tech. I would be planning on being with the CF for a very long time. The way I see it , the more training and tickets I have then the more I could give back to my Country.

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Re: All Things Plumbing & Heating Tech (merged)
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2014, 13:16:47 »
My question is: will a G3 Gas Technician ticket  count as any experience for plumbing and heating?
Iv been trying to get a plumbing/gas technician apprenticeship for years.  But ontario is soo cluttered with people that it's very very hard to get more education/job experience.
Iv always wanted to serve my country! I think about all the time.  Time to stop thinking and start doing. My wife is very supportive and thinks military life is the life for me.  She is also willing to relocate.
My goal (if accepted to the Canadian Forces) is to sign on as a PH Tech and when done move on to Refrigeration Tech. I would be planning on being with the CF for a very long time. The way I see it , the more training and tickets I have then the more I could give back to my Country.

Yes, chances are very likely that a G3 ticket will count for something.  You would need to provide proof of your professional certifications and also a resume at the time of processing, which would be sent away for a PLAR (comparative assessment).  But don't exepct to get much, as PH Tech is a combined occupation (Plumbing and Heating).  Also the CF doesn't necessarily have it's members obtain "provincial or national certifications", unless their is an actual job requirement to do so.  In which case, you would have to pursue this on your own time and possibly at some expense to yourself.

Once you "sign on" as a PH Tech, that's it and that is now your occupation.  You don't just simply decide that tomorrow you will move on to RM Tech, it doesn't work that way.

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 18:38:52 »
Good day everyone,

Wondering if anyone who is currently in the plumbing/heating trade or works along side anyone who is, could speak towards how it is as a career?

I am currently looking to pursue an apprenticeship as a plumber, and thought that this might be a good route to go to become certified, and serve my country at the same time.

Also wondering if there is a variety of different aspects of plumbing/heating that those in this trade are exposed to (IE. Residential, New Construction, Commercial, etc.).

Thank you in advance for your help.

Cheers,

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 18:44:28 »
I am currently looking to pursue an apprenticeship as a plumber, and thought that this might be a good route to go to become certified, and serve my country at the same time.

Got the offer today, headed for BMQ September 2nd as well! Vehicle Tech

Career change?

You may find this of interest,

Certificates of Military Achievement Recognized in Alberta:
http://tradesecrets.alberta.ca/sources/pdfs/forms/military_trades.pdf

Vehicle Technician QL5
Construction Technician QL5
Cook QL5
Electrical Distribution Technician QL5
Marine Engineering Technician QL5
Marine Engineering Technician QL5
Supply Technician QL6
Plumbing and Heating Technician QL5

Refrigeration and Mechanical Technician QL5
Material Technician QL5

Certificates of Military Achievement Recognized in Ontario:
http://app06.ottawa.ca/cs/groups/content/@webottawa/documents/pdf/mdaw/mtkx/~edisp/cap201209.pdf
See page 5.

"If you hold a DND Certificate of Military Achievement at the Ql5 level and the rank of Corporal in the certification programs listed below, you can write the.red.seal Certificate of Qualification exam that corresponds to your military certification with no further training:
■ Marine Engineering Technician
■ Marine Electrician
■ Vehicle Technician
■ Material Technician
■ Refrigeration and Mechanical Technician
■ Electrical.distribution Technician
Plumbing and Heating Technician
■ Construction Technician, and
■ Cook
To be able to write the certification exam, you must submit the three documents listed in the “required documentation” section and include a copy of your Member’s personnel record résumé (Mprr) as evidence of your work experience in place of a letter from your employer."

See also,

Plumbing and heating tech questions 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=98508.0

Ph tech question
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=114155.0

PH Tech question?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=83885.0

etc...
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 20:16:36 »
Yes sir.

Much obliged Mario, thank you for the resources. Was just hoping to get in contact with someone who has spent a fair amount of time in the trade.

Thanks again.