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« Reply #3150 on: March 15, 2020, 13:43:09 »
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REVEALED: Army lockdown on 650 British soldiers in Kenya barracks after up to 100 visited prostitutes and feared they had HIV after unprotected sex

3 Para  ::)

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« Reply #3151 on: March 15, 2020, 14:06:53 »
3 Para  ::)

See story here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8113331/Army-lockdown-British-soldiers-barracks-HIV-fears-sex-prostitutes.html

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My outside voice: OMG, that’s awful!

My inside voice: 3 PARA eh? I wonder what gender/ species those sex workers were :)
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« Reply #3153 on: March 18, 2020, 00:01:12 »
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Ulster veterans will NOT be covered by new law to halt witch-hunts against military veterans accuse of wrongdoing on battlefields abroad
-New Overseas Operations Bill will protect veterans accused of wrongdoing
-But the Bill will not apply to soldiers who served in Northern Ireland
-Dennis Hutchings, 78, accuses of government of 'discriminatory behaviour'
-Hutchings is accused of a Troubles-related shooting over four decades ago 
By LARISA BROWN DEFENCE AND SECURITY EDITOR FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 21:58 EDT, 17 March 2020 | UPDATED: 21:59 EDT, 17 March 2020

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8124337/New-bill-not-protect-Northern-Ireland-veterans-accusations-wrongdoing.html

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« Reply #3154 on: March 18, 2020, 00:12:17 »
See article here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8124337/New-bill-not-protect-Northern-Ireland-veterans-accusations-wrongdoing.html

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Excellent.

I can imagine the old notebooks with the orders written down that looked kind of strange at the time, and were passed down from ‘higher’. This should be good Netflix fodder :)
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« Reply #3155 on: March 21, 2020, 17:19:25 »
10,000 extra troops to join British army's Covid support force

 
MoD doubles size of force amid fears over ability of police and NHS to cope with crisis

The Ministry of Defence is to double the size of the military’s civil contingency unit to create a 20,000-strong Covid support force, the defence secretary has announced.

An additional 10,000 troops will be added to the 10,000 routinely held at higher readiness in case of a civil emergency, and reservists could also be called up, Ben Wallace said on Wednesday.

There are fears about the ability of the police and NHS, which are both already at full stretch, to deal with the scale of the crisis. While the government has been reluctant to highlight such a bleak prospect, the armed forces need to be prepared for the threat of a breakdown in civil order given that troops have been deployed in other countries to enforce lockdowns and prevent looting of shops.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/18/10000-extra-troops-to-join-british-armys-covid-support-force
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« Reply #3156 on: March 27, 2020, 10:44:38 »

UK troops fear Covid-19 outbreak in 'cramped' barracks lockdown

Claims that 300 soldiers in Aldershot are in crowded unit with no hygiene essentials

Three hundred soldiers recalled to a barracks in Aldershot this week have complained they are being locked down without sufficient hygiene essentials amid concerns their cramped conditions could lead to a coronavirus outbreak.

Troops from the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards said they had been asked to self-isolate with their families but were hauled back to an environment which had not been supplied with any personal hand sanitiser or other cleaning equipment.

The lockdown means soldiers have been unable to shop outside to obtain personal supplies, while people within the camp in Hampshire who are showing coronavirus symptoms have been offered no medical treatment or support, according to those in the unit.

Although thousands of troops have been placed on standby to help tackle the coronavirus crisis, frustrated soldiers in Aldershot said it was not clear why they had been recalled to “essentially an open prison”.

“They’ve taken hundreds of people away from their families and their safe environments, only to thrust them in with hundred of other people who are potential carriers, unbeknownst to themselves,” according to a member of the unit who contacted the Guardian but asked not to be named.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/27/uk-troops-fear-covid-19-outbreak-cramped-barracks-lockdown
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Re: British Military Current Events
« Reply #3157 on: March 29, 2020, 17:31:01 »
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« Reply #3158 on: March 29, 2020, 17:37:51 »
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Well, I guess that's one guys view.

Probably didn't see the crown that's most likely on his cap badge and what it all means.

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Re: British Military Current Events
« Reply #3160 on: March 29, 2020, 20:30:48 »
Well, I guess that's one guys view.

Probably didn't see the crown that's most likely on his cap badge and what it all means.

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You’d be surprised at how ‘anti-Royal’ some British Army members can be, largely due to the massive ethical failures exhibited by various members of the Royal Family from time to time.
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« Reply #3161 on: March 29, 2020, 21:20:23 »
You’d be surprised at how ‘anti-Royal’ some British Army members can be, largely due to the massive ethical failures exhibited by various members of the Royal Family from time to time.

Seems that kinda runs with who votes Labour.

Overall, I think the Queen has set a good example and, at least for the moment, she's still the head of state. As far as the others--there are some excellent royals and some a'holes--just like in every family.

Maybe it's my Teutonic side but when I give an oath to be loyal to someone, then I am. Besides, she said right on my commissioning scroll that she had was "...reposing especial Trust and Confidence in your Loyalty, Courage and Integrity" So there's that.  ;D

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« Reply #3162 on: March 30, 2020, 09:56:33 »
Well, if he's 'Derry born' he is, or at least was, British, not Irish..


Irish footballer fined for 'IRA' balaclava 'history lesson' with kids

Irish footballer James McClean has been fined by club team Stoke City and ordered to delete his Instagram account after posting a message in which he was seen wearing a balaclava while giving his children a “history lesson.”

The Derry-born Republic of Ireland star hastily removed the message after posting it, but not before he had come under fire for his home-schooling efforts featuring headwear seen as synonymous with the Irish Republican Army (IRA).

https://www.rt.com/sport/484301-james-mcclean-stoke-history-lesson-balaclava/?fbclid=IwAR2czBWgAY3ctLe1E0d570UZxuq8g30uEzDACMG6iCKcQUKa5vgt7EjoLPs
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« Reply #3163 on: March 30, 2020, 10:07:54 »
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Christina Blizzard really dumps on the couple formerly known as Royals:

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Harry and Meghan acting like spoiled brats
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/blizzard-harry-and-meghan-acting-like-spoiled-brats

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« Reply #3164 on: April 02, 2020, 14:11:54 »
Britain is calling up 3,000 reservists for a six-month mobilisation to help in the fight against coronavirus and is putting their civilian employers on notice.

Only part-time soldiers, sailors, airmen and Royal Marines with specialist skills, such as in engineering, logistics and accountancy, will be activated.

Those in the NHS and other frontline services already involved in the government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic will not be asked to switch into a military uniform.

The reservists will be part of what is being called the COVID Support Force on top of 20,000 regular service personnel. It lifts to 23,000 the potential pool of military personnel available for the government's coronavirus response.

James Heappey, the armed forces minister, said: "Our reservists are a truly remarkable group of people, each with their own skills and experience from their civilian careers beyond the armed forces.

https://news-sky-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-3-000-reservists-called-up-to-join-mods-response-11967124
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« Reply #3165 on: April 02, 2020, 14:45:50 »
Well, if he's 'Derry born' he is, or at least was, British, not Irish..

If I remember my 'James Joyce" the proper term is 'West Briton.'

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« Reply #3166 on: April 02, 2020, 17:17:25 »
While you're on the line D&B, I've got a question for you about 3 (UK) Div. Under Army2020 Refine, the division has two armoured infantry brigades each with two RegF mechanized infantry battalions (with Warrior) and to ResF infantry battalions. Those battalions are regimentally tied (1st and 4th Mercians; 1st and 3rd Royal Welsh; 1st and 5th R Regt of Fus; and 5th and 7th Rifles)

Same issue with 16th Air Assault Bde (UK) and 2 and 3 Para and 4th Para (AR)

It looks to me like the four reserve battalions basically train as mechanized infantry but will not deploy as mechanized battalions but merely provide reinforcements and replacements to the four regular battalions but I can't find confirmation of that.

Have you, in any of your discussions with your old mates, been able to determine if these reserve battalions just provide augmentation or are they able to operate as battalions in their own right?

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« Reply #3167 on: April 03, 2020, 14:22:17 »
While you're on the line D&B, I've got a question for you about 3 (UK) Div. Under Army2020 Refine, the division has two armoured infantry brigades each with two RegF mechanized infantry battalions (with Warrior) and to ResF infantry battalions. Those battalions are regimentally tied (1st and 4th Mercians; 1st and 3rd Royal Welsh; 1st and 5th R Regt of Fus; and 5th and 7th Rifles)

Same issue with 16th Air Assault Bde (UK) and 2 and 3 Para and 4th Para (AR)

It looks to me like the four reserve battalions basically train as mechanized infantry but will not deploy as mechanized battalions but merely provide reinforcements and replacements to the four regular battalions but I can't find confirmation of that.

Have you, in any of your discussions with your old mates, been able to determine if these reserve battalions just provide augmentation or are they able to operate as battalions in their own right?

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The TA have always been intended, during 'General War', to be deployed as intact units to fill a line battalion role following the signing of 'Queens Order #2" as I recall. As a result, their levels of Reg F support have been much higher than Canada's e.g., a Reg F CO, plus a full training team of Officers and NCOs.

I can only assume this is sitll the case, as I have several Reg F colleagues who were COs of TA Battalions. There have been issues of 'value for money' though, given the labour under similar legislative restrictions to our reserves, and the struggles they faced in keeping up with the various post-911 demands. They've done a complete re-think, as a result, more recently.

From Wiki-wanky:

2011 onwards and renaming[edit]

Under the "Future Reserves 2020" (FR20) plan outlined by then Secretary of State for Defence Liam Fox on 18 July 2011, the Ministry of Defence promised to provide more money to train more Army Reservists with the objective of more frequently deploying entire Army Reserve units[citation needed] (much like United States Army Reserve and Army National Guard units). Under the reform plan, the total force will be restructured so that, by 2020, the British Army will have 120,000 soldiers, of which 84,000 will be Regulars and 35,000 Reservists (a ratio of 70/30). The Territorial Army was renamed under that plan, becoming the Army Reserve.[44]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Reserve_(United_Kingdom)

Just FYI....

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https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/826095/AC_72030_Reserve_Land_Forces_Regulations_Amendment_3.pdf
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« Reply #3168 on: April 03, 2020, 16:05:20 »
Thanks D&B. I just considered it strange that the two armoured inf brigades in 3 (UK) div would each have one tank regiment, 2 armoured infantry battalions and two light infantry reserve force battalions (and also strangely, 7 The Rifles and 5 RRegt of Fus from 20th Armoured Inf Bde have a group of several hundred volunteers serving together in Cyprus)

On a completely unrelated matter, the Communist view of UK troops called into the streets:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/03/16/mili-m16.html

You'd think Stalinist should understand that all this oppression is necessary.  ;D

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« Reply #3169 on: April 17, 2020, 18:21:55 »

Army ready to serve during the COVID-19 pandemic

The 1st Battalion The Duke of Lancaster Regiment, have been trained by specialist Boots pharmacists to help test NHS staff test for Covid-19 at Manchester Airport testing station. This means more frontline NHS workers who have symptoms of coronavirus can be tested quickly and reliably. Soldiers also learned how to train others to carry out the testing so they can return to their regiments and share these skills. Similar programmes have also been running at Edgbaston and Glasgow.

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/covid-19/
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« Reply #3170 on: April 17, 2020, 20:04:24 »
Army ready to serve during the COVID-19 pandemic

The 1st Battalion The Duke of Lancaster Regiment, have been trained by specialist Boots pharmacists to help test NHS staff test for Covid-19 at Manchester Airport testing station. This means more frontline NHS workers who have symptoms of coronavirus can be tested quickly and reliably. Soldiers also learned how to train others to carry out the testing so they can return to their regiments and share these skills. Similar programmes have also been running at Edgbaston and Glasgow.

https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and-events/covid-19/

That's absolutely great. I expect our various provincial regulations respecting health care workers would get in the way of that. It would be nice if we could sort some of those jurisdictional issues out before the next one of these disasters. I'm not well enough connected in to our current domestic op plans but I expect we're a bit weak on some of this.

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« Reply #3171 on: April 24, 2020, 18:19:08 »
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Coronavirus: Royal Navy submarine crew had lockdown party

A submarine crew were filmed having a party during the coronavirus lockdown, prompting a Royal Navy investigation.

The captain of HMS Trenchant, a nuclear-powered attack submarine based at Devonport in Plymouth, has been sent home on leave.

Video of the crew enjoying a party and barbecue while the submarine was tied up have been shared on social media.

It shows sailors dancing and laughing, and a source confirmed some were drinking alcohol.

HMS Trenchant had been on patrol before having to return to Devonport to undergo repairs.

The crew were required to stay with the submarine in isolation while the repairs were completed.

BBC defence correspondent Jonathan Beale said it was understood the captain had gone ahead with the entertainment despite being advised it might be inappropriate.

A Royal Navy spokesman said: "An investigation is under way. It would be inappropriate to comment further."


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Re: British Military Current Events
« Reply #3172 on: April 24, 2020, 19:21:08 »



Don't see the big deal here really...

They were on patrol.  Came back.  Ordered to stay isolated.  Had a bit of a BBQ as they had to stay with their ship - which, obviously being a sub, isn't very spacious.


Who cares??  Sounds like a non-story to me 
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« Reply #3173 on: April 25, 2020, 23:23:51 »
exactly and a balless senior staff who can't say that they were trying to keep morale up, when they can't see their families.

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« Reply #3174 on: April 26, 2020, 11:13:48 »
exactly and a balless senior staff who can't say that they were trying to keep morale up, when they can't see their families.

It sounds more like a self-inflicted social media wound. If we had had a party like that go viral on SM, I'm sure we'd see some sackings as well.
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