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Offline Remius

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2007, 18:25:23 »
You could also look into AirNav, Flight Engineer roles, etc if you want to be up the skies....

Not to burst any bubbles but given his eyesight that would be doubtfull for Airnav or FE.
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2007, 21:17:06 »
Well by the time I earn a degree (or start pursuing one) I'll be too old (IMHO) to be selected for fixed wing (I'm talking CF-18s) duties.


40% and perhaps a little bit more of current cockpit allocations are for rotary wing.
I wouldn't come into the training program with a "fixed wing" only attitude - you stand a 40% chance of being disappointed.
Out of the the fixed wing selection slots only a small percentage are selected for fighter force.
Coming into the career field with an "I'm going to be a fighter pilot only" ... chances are ... you'll most likely be setting yourself up for disappointment.

Just trying to shine some light of reality for you - that's all.
Don't put all your eggs in the "I'm gonna' be a fighter pilot only man .." basket.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Best wishes if you do try out - it's a great career regardless of what cockpit you end up in.

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2007, 22:00:07 »
Folks,

Again thank you for the constructive criticism and words of wisdom.  I may have misrepresented myself when I lead you to believe that "Fast Air" is the only thing I am interested in.  Althought that is HIGHLY desirable I would have been happy enough to sit in a chopper or transport aircraft.

Funny how things turn around from day to day.  My wife mentioned that there is a "relavtively" new but long/cumbersome way to improve eyesight without surgery.  It's called Ortho-K (Orthokeratology).  Basically it's an eye re-shaping lens that is worn at night - there is a possibility of become 6/6 (20/20 imperial measurements) but it will take a couple of years.  It permanently re-shapes the cornea without the disadvantages of going Lasik or PRK (scarring or residual flaps).  Ortho-K will have to be worn every night for the rest of your life once you hit your target eyesight but it's worth it in my opinion.  My wife is going to point me to a few resources.  I'll post my results here but you can also perform a google search on the aforementioned keywords.

I may have found my "in" but of course I am cautiously optimistic.  One step at a time - get started on my education, get fit(ter) and find out more about Ortho-K.  There is a silver cloud to all of this.

Cpl Jay

p.s Nothing wrong with making good money - as long as it doesn't take you away from your dreams.

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2007, 22:04:46 »
40% and perhaps a little bit more of current cockpit allocations are for rotary wing.
I wouldn't come into the training program with a "fixed wing" only attitude - you stand a 40% chance of being disappointed.
Out of the the fixed wing selection slots only a small percentage are selected for fighter force.
Coming into the career field with an "I'm going to be a fighter pilot only" ... chances are ... you'll most likely be setting yourself up for disappointment.

Just trying to shine some light of reality for you - that's all.
Don't put all your eggs in the "I'm gonna' be a fighter pilot only man .." basket.

Don't shoot the messenger.
Best wishes if you do try out - it's a great career regardless of what cockpit you end up in.

Globemasher, in the recent selections and the next few, they try to give Jets to anyone who has the marks to do it and wants it.  The rest is split 50/50 (maybe a little more helos, depending on the size of the course) between helos and multis.

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2007, 23:19:16 »
Funny how things turn around from day to day.  My wife mentioned that there is a "relavtively" new but long/cumbersome way to improve eyesight without surgery.  It's called Ortho-K (Orthokeratology).  Basically it's an eye re-shaping lens that is worn at night - there is a possibility of become 6/6 (20/20 imperial measurements) but it will take a couple of years.  It permanently re-shapes the cornea without the disadvantages of going Lasik or PRK (scarring or residual flaps).  Ortho-K will have to be worn every night for the rest of your life once you hit your target eyesight but it's worth it in my opinion. 

Your first step should be to verify if Ortho-K is allowed for new pilots. With recent changes to the visual standard your best bet would be to contact the research center in Toronto to get the latest and most accurate info and maybe a glimpse of the future.
http://www.toronto.drdc-rddc.gc.ca/contactus_e.html

Your wife would probably be the person to drop them an email/phone call as she knows all the optometry mumbo jumbo. If you get any relevant info, it would be nice if you could share it with us for future reference.

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2007, 23:20:00 »
Not to burst any bubbles but given his eyesight that would be doubtfull for Airnav or FE.

Can someone confirm whether or not corrected vision was not just allowed for all non-pilot aircrew?

So if he corrects his vision, wouldn't he be ok for Airnav or FE?


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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2007, 23:31:12 »
It can be.  Depending on the results.  Plus he would have to be a viable candidate for the surgery to begin with.

Now that I've strayed way out of my lane, the best thing would be for him to talk to a PA at the CFRC/D who can give him the real correct answer.
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2007, 09:00:50 »
So my dream is helos!! Most of the guys/gals I meet all say fighter's!!! Which should be great for me!! ;D ;D :salute:
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2007, 13:25:44 »
muahahaha volition you and I both man. I was convinced to try out for TacHel when I actually get in as a pilot (when ever that maybe). I heard there's a need for them  ;)
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2007, 14:32:07 »
I bet you would have to do all the fixed wing stuff first right?? Did transport canada rule that flying an airplane is dangerous to flying a helicopter after??

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2007, 15:26:51 »
I bet you would have to do all the fixed wing stuff first right?? Did transport canada rule that flying an airplane is dangerous to flying a helicopter after??

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Please take my advice and read through the fora here before posting anything else. You may then be able to post intelligently.

And fill out your profile.

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2007, 11:48:25 »
Hi,

I will be walking into a recruitment centre early next week to explore options.  Not to apply for pilot as of yet but at least establish a relationship with a recruitment officer and seek his/her guidance.

Anyone thing this is a good step so early in the process of "tranforming" myself from a Bay Street geek into a formidable candidate?  Some info I will be seeking will centre around education, the right steps, eyesight, etc.

Thoughts?

Cpl Jay

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2007, 13:07:27 »
If you want an official answer, the only way to get it is from the CFRC.

Do note that recruiting can't tell you about eyesight, and that you'll have to speak to a PA from the Medical Section about that.

On the education standpoint, my best advice to you is to get accepted into a University Degree program, and if possible, have some solid marks to show for that, particularly if your previous marks were crap.


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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2007, 12:25:27 »
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Hate to burst the bubble.... but laser eye will not be accepted in the RCAF. It is currently accepted in USAF, but not in RCAF.

Of course it won't be accepted in the RCAF because there is no longer such as organization.
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2007, 13:48:00 »
Let us know what they tell ya!! Thanx :salute:

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2007, 13:49:14 »
And how did I get -10?? >:(

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2007, 14:00:12 »
And how did I get -10?? >:(

I would say that it's probably because many people agree with this statement:

You have no clue what you are talking about.


If you go and see replies to some of the other posts that you have put on here, you will see similar comments.
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2007, 14:04:14 »
I'm willing to bet it has to do with your posts and lack of info on your profile.  just make sure you know what you are talking about and back it up.  

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2007, 14:06:08 »
I looked, and it's true that you have to do 2 course of flying airplanes before you'll ever get to touch a helicopter in the forces!!! In a safety letter release by transport Canada, it's states that having thousands of hours of airplane time, could hender your emergency performances in a helicopter. Trust me, i've done my research!!!

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2007, 14:11:41 »
Well I am sure the actual pilots we have as members of this site will confirm or refute the information as presented....
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2007, 14:12:44 »
I looked, and it's true that you have to do 2 course of flying airplanes before you'll ever get to touch a helicopter in the forces!!! In a safety letter release by transport Canada, it's states that having thousands of hours of airplane time, could hender your emergency performances in a helicopter. Trust me, i've done my research!!!

As stated several times, your lack of a profile is what is making it difficult for people to believe that you are knowledgeable in the areas of which you are speaking, research or not.  If you look at the profiles of the members who are making statements throughout the threads you are posting on, you will notice that they are qualified personnel in the fields that they are providing information on.  (and what Ex-D said too while I was typing this up!)
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2007, 14:22:01 »
Well yes it's true that you have to go to PFT, then BFT training before your selected to do Helicopter training. I read that before about very experienced airplane pilots going to Helicopters...but your not a very experienced pilot comimg out of PFT, and BFT!! I guess people were hard on you because you had no profile, not because of your information that's about 80% right. ;)
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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2007, 14:38:12 »
For those wondering about the Lazer eye crap.

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,33536.0.html

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,31590.0.html

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16801.0.html

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I went from a V4 to  a V1 thanks to the surgery. And I am well on my way to that cushy aircrew job I always wanted. (non-pilot of course)

Edit: Laser / Lazer Guess you got me   :P



« Last Edit: September 11, 2007, 08:34:08 by mover1 »

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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2007, 21:07:24 »
Spelled laser , as it is an acronym. Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation.   ;)  Useless information of the day...

Congrats on the success of the correction, and best of luck with your new career choice!


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Re: Any chance to become a pilot now?
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2007, 21:11:56 »
I looked, and it's true that you have to do 2 course of flying airplanes before you'll ever get to touch a helicopter in the forces!!! In a safety letter release by transport Canada, it's states that having thousands of hours of airplane time, could hender your emergency performances in a helicopter. Trust me, i've done my research!!!

From my experience around here on the boards, people generally look for either of two things, preferably both, before they take what you say as having any worth:

1 - Straight-up "in-lane" experience
2 - Research with references cited.  (That means if you are going to quote Transport Canada from a google search, at least provide the link to the TC document you are talking about.  Otherwise, I'm going to tell you that I researched and Transport Canada just changed the rules and now Cats and Dogs can be Aircrew, but only if Cats are the Pilot and Dogs are the Co-Pilot.)

It goes without saying that at least an attempt at proper grammar and use of the spell-check features for obvious errors goes a long way for credibility.

(Since you asked).

M.