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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #550 on: May 01, 2019, 08:15:19 »
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #551 on: May 04, 2019, 18:35:25 »
A pretty big set of cajones on those crews!

I would love to see their life insurance premiums.  If they can even get life insurance.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #552 on: May 15, 2019, 22:46:03 »
Another Block 4 prototype shot.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #553 on: May 15, 2019, 23:07:22 »
But the important question:  How good is the coffee on board?
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #554 on: May 15, 2019, 23:22:16 »
But the important question:  How good is the coffee on board?

Paraphrasing here, but "chewed grounds in an old dirty sock" sounds about right.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #555 on: May 16, 2019, 10:51:17 »
I see they didn’t go with current conformal/low-profile antenna technology for BLOS.

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #556 on: May 16, 2019, 11:09:15 »
But the important question:  How good is the coffee on board?

The stuff from the kitchen is absolutely horrible IMO.  I either bring 3-in-1s along or use this fella.

Thank god for hot cups!
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #557 on: May 16, 2019, 11:13:15 »
I see they didn’t go with current conformal/low-profile antenna technology for BLOS.

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I haven't seen anything yet other than pictures, so I'm not sure 'exactly' what is *under the dome*, but I was quite surprised with the size of the prototype compared to the iBLOS fitting.  The size/shape of it made me think "RQ-4"...so I'm expecting a similar size antenna under it (just my WAG, of course).

This picture, there looks like something additional is mounted on the MAD boom, as well as something on additional on the underside of the fuselage, below and slightly forward of the Roundel; it's not very clear and for a second I thought it looked like an additional EOIR ball like the AIP birds have (wishful thinking?).   :dunno:

Should have more info once the 415 types get their hands on 108 and start prepping for the CT.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #558 on: May 16, 2019, 12:04:33 »
It would be better if they upgraded the EO/IR camera to something better (instead of another turret).

It would also be nice if they could fully integrate EO/IR similar to what the Winnipeg Police have in Air1.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faodCovX2iQ

I also think they could have installed a radar antenna aft giving us 360 degree coverage.


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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #559 on: May 16, 2019, 14:17:30 »
Looks like the NS*SGOD is set up for aft-mounted DIRCM?

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It would be better if they upgraded the EO/IR camera to something better (instead of another turret).

It would also be nice if they could fully integrate EO/IR similar to what the Winnipeg Police have in Air1.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faodCovX2iQ

I also think they could have installed a radar antenna aft giving us 360 degree coverage.

At some point, one would think the OEM would stop supporting small qty ‘legacy’ (aka well past their prime) systems if other operators have moved on to digital systems. ???

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #560 on: May 16, 2019, 21:05:24 »
It would be better if they upgraded the EO/IR camera to something better (instead of another turret).

It would also be nice if they could fully integrate EO/IR similar to what the Winnipeg Police have in Air1.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=faodCovX2iQ

I also think they could have installed a radar antenna aft giving us 360 degree coverage.

Agreed on all...but I'll not hold my breath on any of them happening...
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #561 on: May 16, 2019, 21:06:31 »
At some point, one would think the OEM would stop supporting small qty ‘legacy’ (aka well past their prime) systems if other operators have moved on to digital systems. ???


This is "sort of" the case on the MX-20.  It received a partial 'upgrade' circa 2015.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #562 on: June 03, 2019, 21:28:35 »
Nice video of the flypast from last weekend;  Apple Blossom Festival Parade 2019.

The colors...almost looks more like fall in the Ditch than early summer.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #563 on: June 20, 2019, 09:33:05 »

Some details on the Rolls-Royce T56 Series 3.5 engine.  I like these numbers.

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The Series 3.5 upgrade allows T56 engines to operate at greatly reduced temperatures, extending parts life and improving reliability by 22 per cent. It is available for installation on T56 engines powering either C-130 or P-3 legacy aircraft.
The firm claim that the Series 3.5 upgrade will help the Royal Thai Air Force to reduce operational costs due to reduced maintenance requirements and potential fuel savings exceeding 12 per cent.

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #564 on: June 20, 2019, 09:50:00 »
Some details on the Rolls-Royce T56 Series 3.5 engine.  I like these numbers.

You know what would be outstanding?  If we shelved this idea and hopped on the P8 train.   Australia, New Zealand, UK, Norway, South Korea and India have all made the switch. 

Oh, but we will have the best P3 on the planet!

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #565 on: June 20, 2019, 09:57:42 »
Oh, but we will have the best P3 on the planet!


It already is the best P3 on the planet!  (Granted, functioning wing pylons would be nice.) ;D

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #566 on: June 20, 2019, 11:37:53 »

It already is the best P3 on the planet!  (Granted, functioning wing pylons would be nice.) ;D

It's in the works. Whether it will pan out is a different story but Ottawa has done some investigation and at least 1 trial I'm aware of.

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #567 on: June 20, 2019, 13:13:58 »
It's in the works. Whether it will pan out is a different story but Ottawa has done some investigation and at least 1 trial I'm aware of.

Latest I heard (from about 2 months ago) is that it's shelved again. 
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #568 on: June 20, 2019, 15:45:59 »
Latest I heard (from about 2 months ago) is that it's shelved again.

It's possible, my info is about 6 months old.

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #569 on: June 20, 2019, 20:08:06 »
Last year (or year before...kinda runs together at this point), they were installed on one tail (118?) in ZX for a while.  Then they took 'em off again.

I think there were some issues from the ASLEP work and if 'stuff lined up still'...something like that.  Either way...I ain't holding my breath. 

I agree with DH;  we should be getting P-8s, keeping the things we like on the '140 and moving them.  Figthers will be a priority...FWSAR is coming...Cyclone just happened (sort of).  I think MPAs are wayyyyyy down the line of priorities.  Some genius is like proposing we scrape them for RPAS...and that someone should be immediately kicked in the crotch.
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #570 on: June 20, 2019, 21:13:59 »
Some genius is like proposing we scrape them for RPAS...and that someone should be immediately kicked in the crotch.

Considering that RPAS is already given the list of qualified suppliers, I highly doubt they will take the place of the Flying Winnebago anytime soon. 
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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #571 on: June 20, 2019, 21:18:08 »
Some genius is like proposing we scrape them for RPAS...and that someone should be immediately kicked in the crotch.

Mixed fleet?

RPAs for domestic surveillance and overland stuff.   

P8 for the good stuff.

Only a complete retard would suggest that a RPA could replace the P3. How anyone could suggest that and maintain credibility is beyond me.   

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #572 on: June 20, 2019, 21:32:05 »
Considering that RPAS is already given the list of qualified suppliers, I highly doubt they will take the place of the Flying Winnebago anytime soon.

My points to that aren't ones that should be put on here....

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Re: CP-140 Aurora
« Reply #573 on: June 20, 2019, 21:35:46 »
Only a complete retard would suggest that a RPA could replace the P3.

Agreed, but I've had that discussion with people before...

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How anyone could suggest that and maintain credibility is beyond me.

That assuming they have any credibility from the MAG perspective to start with...this could include people of various ranks as well who have hours in their logbook... :whistle:.  There are always people who emphasize "someone always places last on course".  :nod:
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