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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2017, 14:26:48 »
now that depends on how much of a pain you want to be.  You could go back to the unit and ask who they got the message from and when. 

It does happen sometimes that MELs are reviewed but usually the medical staff contacts the members.  On the occasion that I have had them contact me they don't leave such a message, they ask for contact information or for me to contact the member and have them call the medics without any details given.
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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #126 on: April 22, 2017, 23:37:01 »
The only reasons I know of for them to ask you to do that is if you are up for TOS renewal or if you are being promoted.  Your P-CAT notification you received from D MED POL will state if your P-CAT has career implications, some do, some don't.

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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2017, 11:19:54 »
My concern is that I called the base hospital and they have no idea what he is talking about and stated the B-Surg isn't even on the base as they are away.

That sounds like the exact information to send to your CoC, to find out exactly what they wanted (or a contact name). "I tried to make an appointment, but the CDU doesn't know why I'm calling and BSurg is out of office. Do you have more details so I can follow your direction?"

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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #128 on: April 23, 2017, 12:35:58 »
When I hear things like this, makes me wonder if the CoC is wanting the MEL's "revisited" or "clarified" - I use quotes because I've found over the years some people are illiterate in both official languages when it comes to some of these.

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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #129 on: April 23, 2017, 17:23:50 »
When I hear things like this, makes me wonder if the CoC is wanting the MEL's "revisited" or "clarified" - I use quotes because I've found over the years some people are illiterate in both official languages when it comes to some of these.

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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #130 on: April 24, 2017, 13:23:10 »
and if it's clarified they should contact the medical section themselves instead of wasting the members time. No harm in picking up a phone and saying I don't understand this and want to make sure we are taking care of the member....   
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Re: PCAT info/questions (merged)
« Reply #131 on: April 27, 2017, 17:26:14 »
and if it's clarified they should contact the medical section themselves instead of wasting the members time. No harm in picking up a phone and saying I don't understand this and want to make sure we are taking care of the member....

I am pretty switched on, and do my homework, when it comes to this stuff and I barely understand it. Asking the member for that information can be a waste of everyone's time.

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T-Cats and P-Cats
« Reply #132 on: August 28, 2017, 12:48:38 »
I've searched and asked questions and can't seem to get any answers so now I'm reaching out on here (Please help me! [:() . I'm on a T-Cat (which I don't feel I should be on) and I want to get off to switch back to my old trade. I'll explain more.

I'm a reservist and I transferred from Wpns Tech to Inf (don’t ask, it seemed right at the time :P). Part way through my transfer I took a Permanent Class B contract on a base so instead of transferring me to an inf unit only for me to temp transfer to the base they decided to transfer me to the base. So my OT went through no problem and I don’t belong to an actual unit, just the base.

Last summer I went off to do DP1 Inf, I had a lot going on at home at the time and the stress from the course on top of everything else, asked if I could voluntarily withdraw from the course because of everything going on, was told I couldn’t and I ended up with migraines the first few days of the course and was placed on a T-Cat because of it.

Got back to the base and because I’ve only ever been a reservist and have never really heard about T-Cats didn’t know what I was supposed to do from there, so 6 months later after my first T-Cat expired I went to the MIR to ask to be taken off, which they didn’t want to do because I was still having migraines. I made the mistake of telling a doc that I’ve had them since I was 9 years old, but I’ve been in the reserves for the past 8 years and have only ever gotten the occasionally one as I am now. Decided it would be best to go back to my old trade as it was a bad decision.

I ended up trying a bunch of different drugs, which didn’t work and now Botox (also doesn’t work) which is being injected every 3 months, but NOW because I’m seeing a doc every 3 months for the injections, that’s a problem. I didn’t suggest this, it was a suggestion from the MIR.

My issue is I’m not under any limitations, I’m able to do everything that the normal, non-migraine sufferer is able to do, I’ve been in for 8 years and have gone on course every summer and participated in almost every Thurs night/weekend no issues.

My contract is almost up and as long as I’m on a T-Cat I won’t be able to apply and compete again. I do have an option civi side of being a Sheriff but where does that leave me with the reserves if I go back to being a Class A reservist? I don’t belong to a unit, I’m unqualified in my current trade, nor can I get qualified as I can’t go on a course so long as I’m on my T-Cat…Nor can I transfer back to my old trade where I was QL5 and PLQ qualified.

Like I said, I can do everything everyone else can do, courses, PT Tests, you name it. When I explained this to the doc all he said was well…you’re always going to have migraines so Ottawa will probably put you on a P-Cat. How does he know that I’ll always have them? Maybe one day I’ll wake up and never get them again, so if I’m put on a P-Cat is there any possibility of ever getting off of it???

Also, why are T-Cats not applied universally across the board? Obviously is one troop has diabetes he’ll be placed on a CAT, and so will any others with the same medical condition…so if I’m being put on a T-CAT for this, why isn’t every other person that experiences migraines?

Is there anyone I can go to for assistance on this?

Please help me  [:'(

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4th TCat?
« Reply #133 on: September 29, 2017, 23:00:38 »
Has anyone seen a 4th TCat granted?  It used to be that 3rd TCat had to go to DMed Pol, but now third can be granted by BSurg.  4th TCat recommendation goes to DMed Pol now.  Awaiting outcome of my file for 6 months now.  Thinking that by this point they'll decide PCat is the decision, despite some physical things are still evolving, I still can't do a Force test.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #134 on: October 07, 2017, 10:13:03 »
Yes, a 4th TCAT can exist. It is just a very rare thing. Completely situation dependant.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #135 on: October 07, 2017, 13:42:33 »
Thanks for the reply.

I haven't seen one myself.  The thought was that some additional time was needed for some test results and specialist reviews that might improve the 2 physical issues.  Unfortunately, that has not proven to be the case, it's nearly 11 months since that reboard was done (requesting approval for 4th T6).  File didn't leave the clinic for 4 months and still waiting for Ottawa's decision.  And to further compound things, since that medical, previous OSI issues have resurfaced, for which I'm starting treatment.  Not particularly expecting happy news. 

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #136 on: October 11, 2017, 22:03:13 »
I just got a 4th TCat today. MO said that it won't turn into a PCat unless they're absolutely sure the condition will not improve.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #137 on: October 12, 2017, 20:57:43 »
Nice, meni0n, congrats.  I learned today (being in the branch, I have connections) that D Med Pol is pushing for a PCAT given the length of this things have been going on.  I know I will lose my air factor.  Will wait out, but am expecting a PCAT that either breaches or at minimum high risk of so.  Perhaps not the worst thing, as I am in a pensionable position, but it does remove the sense of personal control over the end of a long career.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #138 on: October 13, 2017, 10:53:03 »
Did your MO send your TCat to DMed or was the review done automatically?

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #139 on: October 13, 2017, 15:20:05 »
looked up the policy a few years ago as there was some dispute at the unit on when you moved from tcat to pcat as they couldn't understand why a member wasn't moved. Turned out there was no maximum number of tcats.  You were moved when they determined there was no longer a chance of reasonable improvement.  I believe though that most MO's were still using 3 as a guideline to determine this.
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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #140 on: October 13, 2017, 18:30:23 »
Did your MO send your TCat to DMed or was the review done automatically?

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TCAT request went to D Med Pol many months ago.  In their review, they noted it hadn't gone through the air factor review.  This has now been done, so back to D Med Pol for their recommendations, and I have it from a reliable source that they are leaning toward PCAT.  There was hope of improvement at the time of the last medical, but we seem to be past that currently.  Total time on TCAT to this point has been nearly 3 years - at first one was waiting for surgery.  Lag in times to get booked in for reboard medicals and processing time has ended up here, with an additional surgery and a new issue cropping up in the interim needing treatment.

CountDC- you are also correct.  Usually, if mbr is still undergoing treatment/recovery with reasonable expectation of return to fitness, they can go longer, but currently the 4th TCAT does need D Med Pol review.

We shall see how long it takes now to hear the outcome.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #141 on: October 14, 2017, 18:22:07 »
To tell you the truth I am so tired with dealing with all of this stuff, I'd rather just get a PCAT and get med released.

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Re: TCAT-PCAT info and questions ( merged )
« Reply #142 on: October 14, 2017, 19:08:40 »
I hear you.  Starting to feel the same.  Just getting tired of it all.  Not making any decisions until I see what they have to say.  In the meantime, I suppose I should go see VAC at some point, as one of the injuries happened in Afghanistan, and the OSI stuff was from there too.  Husband retired this year into a public service job, we're sort of biding time to get youngest kid sorted out and then move to our retirement location.  There are decidedly some days when doing that sooner than later is most appealing.  Trying to get relief from the health issues is also tiring.