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The Russian Military Merged Thread- Navy
« on: March 12, 2008, 22:44:39 »
This is one big boat!!

Compare it to the people on deck

Russian Akula
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 14:46:11 by kratz »
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 21:34:27 »
The conning tower is about the size of a German U-Boat!

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 22:00:08 »


« Last Edit: March 13, 2008, 22:05:26 by tomahawk6 »

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 22:17:32 »
TYPHOON ( pictured in this thread) and AKULA are 2 different submarines

Thread title and the video article ( in the original post) are incorrect

TYPHOON :

http://www.deepseadesigns.net/graphics/pictures/typhoonatsea.jpg

AKULA:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/akula-DDST8911764.JPG
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 22:25:30 »
This has to be one of the best out of water bow shots of a Typhoon around. it's a chubby old bugger ...

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2008, 22:27:36 »
This has to be one of the best out of water bow shots of a Typhoon around. it's a chubby old bugger ...

That girl's got some serious frontage ;)
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 00:26:28 »
TYPHOON ( pictured in this thread) and AKULA are 2 different submarines

Thread title and the video article ( in the original post) are incorrect



What I am reading is that the Russians called the Project 941 (NATO "Typhoon") as the Акула (Akula), meaning shark, and the Project 971 (NATO "Akula")  Щука-Б (Shchuka-B), 'Shchuka' meaning pike. A little confusing for us landlubbers ;D  Massive boats, even have a swimming pool in them
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2008, 00:49:33 »
TYPHOON ( pictured in this thread) and AKULA are 2 different submarines

Thread title and the video article ( in the original post) are incorrect


Actually, the thread title is correct.

Typhoon is the NATO reporting name for Project 941 Russian designation Akula, an SSBN.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/941.htm

Akula is the NATO reporting name for Project 971, an SSN.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/971.htm

The article (and thread title) is just giving both the Russian name and the NATO reporting name.

Although wikipedia is not always the best reference, it has a pretty good explanation:

"The NATO reporting name stems from the use of the word "typhoon" (тайфун) by Leonid Brezhnev in a 1974 speech while describing a new type of nuclear ballistic missile submarine."
"The Typhoon class was developed under Project 941 as the Russian Akula class (Акула), meaning shark. It is sometimes confused with other submarines, as Akula is the name NATO uses to designate the Russian Project 971 Shchuka-B (Щука-Б) class attack submarines."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_class_submarine

and:

"Project 971 Щука-Б (Shchuka-B, 'Shchuka' meaning pike, NATO reporting name "Akula"), is a nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN) first deployed by the Soviet Navy in 1986. The class is sometimes erroneously called the "Bars" class, after one of its members. Note that Akula ("shark") is the Soviet designation of the ballistic missile submarine class designated by NATO as the Typhoon class submarine. They are sometimes bitterly called "the Walker class," referring to John Anthony Walker, whose espionage data related to sonar detection was used to improve this submarine."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula_class_submarine

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2008, 01:41:26 »
True enough. I'm just used to working with NATO reporting names.

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2008, 03:51:44 »
True enough. I'm just used to working with NATO reporting names.

Hey Flyboy, I just copied and pasted from a U.S. Defence site!!!! What do I know about this crap ;) Back in your plane bub, and get us real time pictures......if you're good enough ;D
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2008, 03:55:18 »


I would not be embarrassed on this beach! Even if I was wearing a speedo..........or a Crown Royal bag!!!! ;D
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2008, 11:40:41 »
Ummmmm......... ya sure.   ;D
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 22:14:12 »
This has to be one of the best out of water bow shots of a Typhoon around. it's a chubby old bugger ...

I read somewhere that the pressure hull is essentially two Delta-class pressure hulls welded together, side-by-side.

Then again that may have been in something by Tom Clancy so best taken with a grain of salt.

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2008, 07:57:57 »
No thats correct, and the bulge below the sail is another pressure hull for the control room. There are also 2 more pressure hulls for the torpedoes and steering gear.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/typhoon/

http://www.hazegray.org/features/russia/typhoon.htm
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2008, 15:04:52 »
looking at them makes me think of the WW2 japanese "aircraft carrier" subs
The I-400 class submarine displaced 6,500 tons and was three times the size of ordinary submarines. It had a figure-eight hull shape for additional strength to handle the on-deck hangar for housing the three Seiran aircraft. In addition, it had four anti-aircraft guns and a large deck cannon as well as eight torpedo tubes from which they could fire the Long Lance - the largest, longest ranged and most deadly torpedo in use at the time.

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2008, 16:10:44 »
looking at them makes me think of the WW2 Japanese "aircraft carrier" subs
The I-400 class submarine displaced 6,500 tons and was three times the size of ordinary submarines. It had a figure-eight hull shape for additional strength to handle the on-deck hangar for housing the three Seiran aircraft. In addition, it had four antiaircraft guns and a large deck cannon as well as eight torpedo tubes from which they could fire the Long Lance - the largest, longest ranged and most deadly torpedo in use at the time.



I watched a documentary not that long ago that showed the scuttling of those subs after the war...I think it was Sea Hunter's or a show along those lines
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2008, 16:43:47 »
Impressive pics..wow..I never realized how big the Typhoon was!!

I can always tell an Akula by the tear drop tow arrayed on its rudder and sloping sail.

but yelling out "SNOOP TRAY" is even better!
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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2008, 17:16:30 »
Here is a great shot showing how big the Typhoon really is.


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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2008, 18:39:21 »
Impressive pics..wow..I never realized how big the Typhoon was!!

I can always tell an Akula by the tear drop tow arrayed on its rudder and sloping sail.

but yelling out "SNOOP TRAY" is even better!

I didn't think Akula had a Snoop Tray set. It does, however have the Snoop Pair or Snoop Half tucked up in the Rim Hat.




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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2008, 00:26:16 »
Can't access that part of the Jane's site without being on a DND computer.
I tried and tried before when I was at home trying to prep for my briefing on the Oscar 2...really ticked me off.

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2008, 01:05:15 »
Can't access that part of the Jane's site without being on a DND computer.


Sure you can. Your course staff should be able to give you the username and password available to all CF members who need to access Jane's for work.

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2008, 11:21:18 »
They did give it to us, but none of us were able to access the info from home.
It only allowed us to log in from the fleet school computer with the login name and password.

Even tried on here last night when HFXCrow posted the link, but didn't work  :(

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2008, 11:15:10 »
I think you have to log into tha D.I.N. first, then copy and paste tha url into your browser, it will then ask you to authenticate> input authentication> then page will open.

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Re: Russian Akula (NATO Typhoon) Ballistic Missile Submarine
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2008, 12:14:22 »
you should be able to access thru the WWW at home
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