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Offline thehare

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Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2010, 18:12:56 »
        Hello everyone, before I ask my question I would like to say sorry if this is posted already (I took a quick scan of the forum but really didn't find what I was looking for).

        I was wondering if it was possible to join the Military Police through the Infantry (or any other trade) without the required college diploma. The reason I am asking is because my Godfather was able to do just this with 4 years of service with the Navy (be it though he has been in the Military for over 25 years now). The reason for joining Infantry first is just the plain interest of the overall job and unique experiences involved with the trade.

      Also, (just for the sake of argument) that I was able to tansfer to the MP's without a diploma, would that hinder my ability for promotions or different positions.

     On a side note since I am already writing, I heard the military payed for some forms of education, would they pay for the required diploma if I was in the Infantry if I showed interest in transferring to the MP's or if I needed it would I have to on my own dime (not that I have a problem with that I am just wondering).


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Re: Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2010, 18:26:20 »
In my opinion, you're thinking too far ahead.

It is great to plan for the future, but the kind of thing you are contemplating has the potential to fail because you don't exactly just waltz right through Infantry training like you would training for Wal-Mart.

You are in for some significant challenges and if your mind isn't in it (that you want to be an Infanteer) you may be setting yourself up for failure by not being as willing to endure the misery like the other guys on the course.
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Re: Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2010, 18:33:33 »
I was wondering if it was possible to join the Military Police through the Infantry (or any other trade) without the required college diploma.

Topic: "Occupational Transfer to MP":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,72615.msg696080.html#msg696080

Topic: "OT to MP (Occupation Transfer)":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,40426.msg343462.html#msg343462

Topic: "MP OT's":
http://forums.milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,83427.msg813181.html#msg813181

Hare, did you see this? Just in case you did not:
Police Foundations: "Distance Education":
All but three (3) courses for the two-year Police Foundations Diploma Program are offered through Distance Education.  The three remaining courses, PFP1000, PFP4091 and PFP4097 will have to be completed on campus at Algonquin College.":
http://www.algonquincollege.com/distance/programs_courses/diploma/police_foundations.html

« Last Edit: May 22, 2010, 19:17:23 by mariomike »

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Re: Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2010, 18:56:44 »
I asked my recruiting centre the same questions last year. I was told that subsidized education was not available for the police foundations diploma. Occupational transfer is available to RegF members who have two full credit college/university courses that relate to policing (criminology, psych, soc, law, etc).

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Re: Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2010, 19:32:19 »
First off I would like to thank everyone for the quick replies.

In my opinion, you're thinking too far ahead.

It is great to plan for the future, but the kind of thing you are contemplating has the potential to fail because you don't exactly just waltz right through Infantry training like you would training for Wal-Mart.

You are in for some significant challenges and if your mind isn't in it (that you want to be an Infanteer) you may be setting yourself up for failure by not being as willing to endure the misery like the other guys on the course.

In regards with this comment, the reason I posted this comment is because I would love a career in either of these trades and I realize that I would not be able to waltz through either of the training these trades offer. I would just like the chance to serve in both of these trades and I am just trying to set myself up so that I might get the chance to reach this goal.

Again thank you all for your replies.

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Re: Going Infantry to MP
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2010, 23:26:24 »
If your heart is in it, then you will be successful.  Good luck with your adventures.
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Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2013, 14:23:27 »
I am looking at doing an occupational transfer from the Infantry.  I'm wondering how it would work for me as most of what I have read in the search function was for guys on PAT or guys without completed College/Mil leadership courses.

Im MOD6 Infantry qualified (sans rank though), been on tour, and I already completed the College Course requirements years ago.  So far I understand I have to initiate with a memo through my COC and an appointment to the BPSO.

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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2013, 20:01:59 »
Hey! I am currently in the process of OT'ing  to MP. You have the process right so far, the first step is to apply through your chain of command (I found all the forms and the process of submission on the DIN and under our BPSO's webpage) . If the BPSO feels that you are a good fit after your interview, they will forward your file for further application.  You may  then receive a selection letter for the  MPAC (location varies I've found and I waited months to get it) and they decide if you will be suitable from there (going to the MPAC is not necessarily an indication of whether or not you will be accepted). That's as far as I've gotten right now.

I don't have any of the post secondary requirements that a new CF applicant needs, they are not required for an OT but may be helpful if trade related.

Hope it all works out for you.
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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2013, 21:20:50 »
thanks for the help, much appreciated  :)

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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2013, 14:31:50 »
Good thing is, most OT's (especially from the Cbt Arms) are some of the best MP's we have. With your qual's listed including tour, you should have no problem being able to swap over. The only thing getting in the way is the numbers game, as they're not accepting too many MP's OT side. However, if you have time to kill and are succesfully selected upon completion of MPAC, it should be nothing but playing the waiting game.

Hope you manage to score a position at an MP det, and not getting stuck at a field pl. We have a mbr getting posted into 1 MP Pl straight from QL3. Also another mbr was 12 years 3rd Bn PPCLI, MCpl, Small Arms Qualified, spent 3 years at a det in Gander, and then on posting to Edmonton... you guessed it, Field Platoon! It's really not a horrible go, sometimes it's a pretty gucci meathead field time, others it's more like Infantry Lite, and 90% of people have no idea what they're doing.

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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2013, 10:11:41 »
I'm also looking to an OT from the Navy to Mp,

I saw on the DIN that College is not necessary but a tour is necessary for OT.

Does anybody know what kind of tour would be accepted by the BPSO for someone in a Hard sea trade? Would it only be afghanistan?



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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2013, 10:25:21 »
If I recall correctly, the tour is only a requirement if you are a Reservist and doing a CT or CT/OT.  If you are Reg Force and doing an OT, it is preferred that you have a couple of college or university credits in an applicable subject but you can do an OT with neither.

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Re: Remuster to MP from Infantry
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2013, 10:30:31 »
I can't get on the DIN right now but the tour was listed under 'experience required' and all this was under Occupational transfer. (it said the tour is required if you don't have PF)


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OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2016, 21:09:32 »
I decided to post this here in the hope that someone may have more knowledge regarding this as opposed to the Occupational and Component Transfers Forum.

I understand that someone looking to go direct entry to MP requires police foundations, however, I'm looking for information for OT'ing to MP from another Reg Force Trade. Do you still require the police foundations?

Secondly, what exactly is the process for OT'ing to MP? I remember someone from my old unit who was doing the testing for it, I recall it involving some sort of PT test and maybe other testing?
If anyone could give me the exact process that would be involved, IE. PT test, interview, etc.

I tried to search for this information already but couldn't seem to come up with it.

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Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2016, 21:16:56 »
I don't have the answers but I know someone that does!  If I were you, I'd set up a meeting with the BPSO and have a sit down with him/her to get all the relevant information on the requirements and the process.

First though, I would sit down with my supervisor and talk about your career ambitions!

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Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2016, 21:21:28 »
I had a guy on my MPAC who was a steward trying to OT. Took him 5 years just to get to the MPAC. You will have to get through MPAC first just like every other applicant. As far as the rest of the process I'm not sure.. I'm sure it's like any other OT minus the MPAC.
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Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2016, 21:22:56 »
I don't have the answers but I know someone that does!  If I were you, I'd set up a meeting with the BPSO and have a sit down with him/her to get all the relevant information on the requirements and the process.

First though, I would sit down with my supervisor and talk about your career ambitions!

Thanks for the advice, I certainly plan on doing that, but first I just wanted to see what obstacles I have to overcome first (obstacle being if the Police Foundations is required, I'll have to obtain that course)

That would be great if you know someone who can answer.

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I had a guy on my MPAC who was a steward trying to OT. Took him 5 years just to get to the MPAC. You will have to get through MPAC first just like every other applicant. As far as the rest of the process I'm not sure.. I'm sure it's like any other OT minus the MPAC.
What exactly is MPAC? is that the MP academy or something else?

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Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2016, 21:28:27 »
You can find the entry standards for each MOSID on the DPGR page on DWAN. It breaks down the different entry methods and what is expected of applicants. That should be your starting point, followed by the PSO as SupersonicMax suggested earlier.


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Re: OT to NCM MP from Air Force Trade
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2016, 18:18:47 »
I OT from Infantry almost 6 years ago.  They waived my requirement to have police foundations as I had deployed to Afghanistan.  All I did was fill out the OT paperwork, ensured that my medical was GTG and played the waiting game until MPAC.  After MPAC waited for course.  Process at the time was identical to what you had to do if you came through off the street (only difference was no SQ or BMQ as that was done).  It may have changed but I can't imagine much.  We always need people.

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OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #44 on: July 27, 2016, 17:24:42 »
Hi,

I just finished my supply tech QL3 and I want to transfer to MP.

What do I need to do to get there?

Can I apply right now for an OT ? How much time do I need to wait ?

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Re: OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2016, 17:52:04 »
48 months is the normal for OT after you're QL3 quald.  Find CFAO 11-12 and have a read.
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Re: OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2016, 17:54:39 »
I think once you are qualified in your trade you have to wait 4 years to be eligible for the avotp program, at least thats what I have been told by my base BPSO. I might be wrong though I am not familiar with the OT process.

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Re: OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2016, 17:56:00 »
48 months is the normal for OT after you're QL3 quald.  Find CFAO 11-12 and have a read.

Alright, If I have 24 months given from my time passed in the reserve force, I need to wait 24 months ?

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Re: OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2016, 17:58:28 »
Alright, If I have 24 months given from my time passed in the reserve force, I need to wait 24 months ?

If I am correct, that 24 months, if you have bought it back, is only good towards your pension.
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Re: OT after my QL3 ?
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2016, 17:59:59 »
If I am correct, that 24 months, if you have bought it back, is only good towards your pension.

I dont think so because I just got hired as a private 3...