Topic: Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

[211RadOp]

Thank you for this information! Very insightful.

I am waiting for my medical exam and have been searching for as much information regarding this profession as I can.

Marekbjj, note that this will be changing in the extremely near future.

[marekbjj]

211RapOp, I was speaking to someone on Facebook the other day, who's in the trade, he let me know it's changing in October.

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but he said ACISS is going to be broken down into 5 groups.

- Signal Operator: making sure people can hear each other on the radio and working on the radio
- Communications Tech: Fixes the radios and equipment
- Information Tech: Fixes computers and networks
- Line Systems Tech: Installs telephone and internet systems (work underground and on towers/poles)
- Cyber Operator: New trade that has little to no information, but based on what he said sounds like it has to do with hacking.



I'm still waiting for my medical to get booked, haven't had a chance to speak to a recruiter to confirm this information though!

[Eye In The Sky]

What are the thoughts on the new way forward for Army Signals MOSIDs for the forum members?  Improvement over the ACISS project?  Better division of duties and training?

[211RadOp]

211RapOp, I was speaking to someone on Facebook the other day, who's in the trade, he let me know it's changing in October.

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but he said ACISS is going to be broken down into 5 groups.

- Signal Operator: making sure people can hear each other on the radio and working on the radio
- Communications Tech: Fixes the radios and equipment
- Information Tech: Fixes computers and networks
- Line Systems Tech: Installs telephone and internet systems (work underground and on towers/poles)
- Cyber Operator: New trade that has little to no information, but based on what he said sounds like it has to do with hacking.



I'm still waiting for my medical to get booked, haven't had a chance to speak to a recruiter to confirm this information though!

It will be three trades coming out of the old ACISS trade.  They will be Signal Operator, Line Technician and Signal Technician (Cyber Operator is a new trade that was not part of ACISS although most (all?) came from ACISS).  What is above is the old ACISS trade (less Cyber Op) with it's sub-occupations.  Essentially the only real change will be that the Communication System Techs and the Information System Techs will merge into one occupation (Sig Tech), and the training that ACISS received and what the new trades will receive.  If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

What are the thoughts on the new way forward for Army Signals MOSIDs for the forum members?  Improvement over the ACISS project?  Better division of duties and training?

EITS, I think that it is good for the Branch and the Corps.  The training for the Sig Ops and Line Techs will not change substantially, but the Sig Techs will have some (a lot?) of conversion training to go through, depending on what sub-occupation they were as ACISS.

[marekbjj]

It will be three trades coming out of the old ACISS trade.  They will be Signal Operator, Line Technician and Signal Technician (Cyber Operator is a new trade that was not part of ACISS although most (all?) came from ACISS).  What is above is the old ACISS trade (less Cyber Op) with it's sub-occupations.  Essentially the only real change will be that the Communication System Techs and the Information System Techs will merge into one occupation (Sig Tech), and the training that ACISS received and what the new trades will receive.  If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

That makes things a lot more clear, thank you.
Coincidentally I got my email to book my medical today! 

[PuckChaser]

The training for the Sig Ops and Line Techs will not change substantially

Doomed to fail if that's the case. The ACISS training system created subpar Core members, who needed maximum supervision as CFSCE downloaded tasks to the unit to teach. If the new SigOp course isn't back to the length of the old SigOp QL3 before ACISS, we're just repeating the same mistakes.

[211RadOp]

I know they are working on the new Sig Op QS/TP but I don't know where it is at.  I have been out of the school for over a year now.

[Zarack]

It will be three trades coming out of the old ACISS trade.  They will be Signal Operator, Line Technician and Signal Technician (Cyber Operator is a new trade that was not part of ACISS although most (all?) came from ACISS).  What is above is the old ACISS trade (less Cyber Op) with it's sub-occupations.  Essentially the only real change will be that the Communication System Techs and the Information System Techs will merge into one occupation (Sig Tech), and the training that ACISS received and what the new trades will receive.  If you have any questions, feel free to PM me.

EITS, I think that it is good for the Branch and the Corps.  The training for the Sig Ops and Line Techs will not change substantially, but the Sig Techs will have some (a lot?) of conversion training to go through, depending on what sub-occupation they were as ACISS.

This is apparently not correct anymore, they are looking at NOT merging IST and CST. Current rumor has it that D Sigs thinks it's not a good idea anymore.
As such, implementation was delayed until Apr 2020.

And as for the QS/TP (at least for dp1 and dp2, for Sig Tech), they are complete, we are currently building the Courseware Dev. Although this might/will change if they actually go with not merging IST/CST.

[PuckChaser]

This is apparently not correct anymore, they are looking at NOT merging IST and CST. Current rumor has it that D Sigs thinks it's not a good idea anymore.
As such, implementation was delayed until Apr 2020.

And as for the QS/TP (at least for dp1 and dp2, for Sig Tech), they are complete, we are currently building the Courseware Dev. Although this might/will change if they actually go with not merging IST/CST.

Oh god, here we go again. Paralysis by analysis. Branch stuck in limbo for 3 years until we get a new D Sigs. Meanwhile we're stuck at ~75% PML (unsure if that's the exact number right now) and not recovering for going on a decade. Coupled with the fact that the Branch is freezing promotions means top performers are going to get stuck in their current rank and just VOT/release instead of sticking around to see what gets sorted out.

 

[211RadOp]

Letter today from D RCCS says that Sig Op and Line Tech will remain, but the implementation is delayed until 1 Apr 20.  There will be "additional staff work and analysis with a view to creating two separate and distinct trade occupations as opposed to the one Sig Tech occupation."  This will be implemented in Apr 20 as well.