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Just an FYI post. Long rumoured it is now official. This new name for MOSID 00182 becomes effective 1 January 2009. 

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 12:32:45 »
Just an FYI post. Long rumoured it is now official. This new name for MOSID 00182 becomes effective 1 January 2009. 

It won't make them any more useful.   ;D

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 13:32:46 »
No, but seeing as they are generally literate they wouldn't place "omnipotent" into a location field.  :P
They'd use "omnipresent". Moreover, given how many of them there are, that might not even be a boast!

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2008, 13:39:07 »
I've also seen email about the name of CFANS (from the CO CFANS) changing soon as well, in line with the soon-to-be-new name for ANAV.

I believe the proposed name that the CAS is in favour of is CFACSS (CF Air Combat Systems School).
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2008, 16:58:07 »
I've also seen email about the name of CFANS (from the CO CFANS) changing soon as well, in line with the soon-to-be-new name for ANAV.

I believe the proposed name that the CAS is in favour of is CFACSS (CF Air Combat Systems School).

CFANS should have a new name around the end of November. It might not be what you think.

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2008, 17:00:33 »
Any word on AES Op MOC name changes Cdn Aviator?
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2008, 20:53:28 »
CFANS will change its name with the next BANC wings grad at the end of Nov, along with the MOSID name change (but yes, it won't take effect until 01 Jan.)  No official word on what it is though.
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 20:12:32 »
That's kind of exciting. I've passed the name change on to the other 2 ANAVs I'm currently on BOTP with. Any idea when the next course would be? And if the course content would be updated/changed?

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 20:19:20 »
That's kind of exciting. I've passed the name change on to the other 2 ANAVs I'm currently on BOTP with. Any idea when the next course would be? And if the course content would be updated/changed?

Expect BANC (BACSOC?) 0901 sometime in the Feb/Mar timeframe.  Some things will be changed for 0901...I can't remember too many specifics but I remember them telling us that Inertial Nav System won't be covered in as much detail.  Be thankful for that.   ;D
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 20:26:32 »
Do they only run one course at a time. We're not done till the end of Nov so I highly doubt any of us would be course loaded for a Feb course. Should I expect a lot of OJT? 
Heh, getting rid of Inertia is nice =D

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2008, 20:41:55 »
Do they only run one course at a time.

No. There are 3 or 4 courses in house right now ( at various stages of training).

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 22:18:25 »
No. There are 3 or 4 courses in house right now ( at various stages of training).

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 22:27:03 »

Heh, getting rid of Inertia is nice =D

Go back and read his post. He did not say " getting rid of inertial" did he ?

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 00:18:19 »
Do they only run one course at a time. We're not done till the end of Nov so I highly doubt any of us would be course loaded for a Feb course. Should I expect a lot of OJT? 
Heh, getting rid of Inertia is nice =D

It's hard to say when the course loading would be, especially since the courses aren't always all Canadian students.  There are quite a few international students as well.  Also, I just said that INS would be shortened (less detail on the inner workings), not taken out.

Oh, and the last few courses (and the upcoming one) are looking at 12-13 months for course length.  So, they're getting better...
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 18:02:33 »
I take it with a name change like that, one should expect the transport roll good as dead for ANAVs, n'est-ce pas?

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2008, 18:25:42 »
I take it with a name change like that, one should expect the transport roll good as dead for ANAVs, n'est-ce pas?

They still have Herc OTUs...the J's aren't going to be coming all at once.
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 18:28:36 »
They still have Herc OTUs...the J's aren't going to be coming all at once.

True.  I was thinking beyond that though.

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2008, 21:39:24 »
They still have Herc OTUs...the J's aren't going to be coming all at once.

and even after they do, we will still be operating H models so we will still need Navs ACSOs for them.

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2008, 14:56:36 »
FWSAR will still be using ACSO's - so lots of jobs left in AMAG.
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2008, 04:17:58 »
Straight from the CAS as of last night....CFANS will become 1 CFFTS.
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2008, 21:42:49 »
I'd just love to comment on this but  >:D
But not lately. If I could do it all over again I would  change one thing.

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2008, 22:10:22 »
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 22:33:35 »
Expect BANC (BACSOC?) 0901 sometime in the Feb/Mar timeframe.  Some things will be changed for 0901...I can't remember too many specifics but I remember them telling us that Inertial Nav System won't be covered in as much detail.  Be thankful for that.   ;D

Right now, they're calling the course ACSO 0901.  There are only going to be minor changes to the course made starting with ACSO 0901 including Phase 1 being reduced to 5 flights on the CT-142 from 7, use of the Tactical Display System in Phase 3 and a few other minor changes.  When they finally remove the excess detail on the INS is anyone's guess.  The latest that will happen (and most likely I think) will be with the full course rewrite that starts with a new ACSO QS being written starting in June or thereabouts.

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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2009, 20:05:42 »
Sort of a thread hijack but...did CFANS change to the *new* name yet?
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Re: Occupation Name Change - Air Navigator To Air Combat Systems Officer
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2009, 20:37:54 »
Sort of a thread hijack but...did CFANS change to the *new* name yet?

Nope.
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