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Meals at BMQ
« on: February 23, 2009, 20:26:53 »
Was wondering what foods are served at each meal and portions during the bmq reg force?

May be a weird question,but I train mma and eat 100 percent organic and consume the proper amount of vitamins, efas, proteins, carbs and so on. And am wondering what the meals are like.

I would like to estimate grams of protein, vitamins, and carbs in each meal based on the information that i will hopefully receive from this question. Thank you for your time.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 20:29:08 »
What is a "mma"?

I take it efas are some sort of suppliment?
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 20:30:38 »
I would like to estimate grams of protein, vitamins, and carbs in each meal based on the information that i will hopefully receive from this question. Thank you for your time.

Do you really expect anyone to describe every possible meal for you in enough detail for that?

There's lots of food, a variety of choices at each meal.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 20:32:35 »
MMA is mixed martial arts or better known as UFC.

And efas are your healthy fats including omega 3, 6, 7, 9 and mono/polyunsaturates. which are found in oils, nuts, fish, eggs and so on.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 20:34:24 »
Even an idea of some meals, i dont need to know every meal. Health and nutrition is very important to me. Also, are you allowed to bring a multi vitamin??

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 20:36:19 »
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2009, 20:38:14 »
As Michael said, there is a large variety of foods, salads and side trays with yogurts, etc.  The CF Mess Halls are starting to get away from unhealthy foods, but still not to the standard that some would think.  You will have several choices at each meal, and during lunch there is usually Sandwich Bars set up in most Messes.

If for some health or Religious reason a person requires a special dietary meal plan, then they can be accommodated.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2009, 20:38:27 »
Mosher,
Even if I went and started to list things that are served in our cafeteria.... it's all cafeteria food in the end.  Furthermore, once you go out into the field, you eat Haybox food (prepared & stored in thermos boxes)... or you eat individual meal packets....

The CF does consult with nutritionists when developing ration packs & menus.
It's good hearty food.... though nothing I'd call gourmet eating
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2009, 20:39:02 »
There is no hope in heck of you getting 100% organic from a mass food production facility such as a CF mess hall. And no you can not bring your own food or after getting there have your own food as it is not allowed on your living floors.

In any meal line there is a meat, a starch/pasta and a veggi all vary by day.  The portions are based on the Canadian food guidelines. There is always a salad bar as well.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 20:44:52 »
Thank you very much.

I definately know theres no chance in hell of any organic food. And was under the impression they give you a meal and thats what youve got, no choices. I really am just conserned about vitamin deficancy and low protein.

Your answers have given me a better understanding of meal time and am not concerned anymore. Thank you, i appreciate it. As long as i get meat and veggies im good. 

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 20:46:16 »
It is almost 'universal' that Thursday is "Steak Night".    ;D
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 20:46:23 »
... might be the occasional "mystery meat" but.... it IS edible - sort of :P
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2009, 21:48:28 »
I really am just conserned about vitamin deficancy and low protein.

What!

Crikey, I nearly coughed up my lamington!

From a Mess, you'll be eating a wider balanced variety, more so than you mom cooks.

There will be more concern to other realistic things other than the food you shovel into your damper hole.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2009, 21:56:29 »
If it's the chocolate one, with cream ,
send me some, please :)!
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2009, 22:25:21 »
Thank you very much.

I definately know theres no chance in hell of any organic food. And was under the impression they give you a meal and thats what youve got, no choices. I really am just conserned about vitamin deficancy and low protein.

Your answers have given me a better understanding of meal time and am not concerned anymore. Thank you, i appreciate it. As long as i get meat and veggies im good.


For a normal supper... from the steam line alone, there's usually a choice of 2-3 entrees (IE a dish containing some sort of meat, plus usually a vegeterian entree), 2 types of veg, 2 types of starch. Then there's the salad bar, which will contain a wide assortment of salads, raw veggies, plus tons of fruit (Both prepared, ie a mixed fruit salad, and "as is" ie apples, oranges, banannas), and usually left overs from a few days before served cold. Then there's also a wide selection of hot and cold beverages, deserts.

For lunch, most messes also add a sandwhich bar.

Usually the entrees rotate on a 2-3 week schedule.

Oh, and you'll also get the opportunity to try some regional foods you'll have never otherwise heard of (Donairs always seem to blow the mind of folks from out west, vs perogies blowing the mind of those from out east. Tourtiere? Well, try it, but I recommend a heavy dousing of ketchup :))

As a reservist, and a poor starving student, I can't even come close to afford to eating as well at home as I do at the mess. Anyone who complains about mess food is too lazy to walk the five feet to the salad bar and fill up their plate. I can't really imagine the sort of crap they must eat on their own time.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 22:30:14 »
Each meal served in one of our messes should contain a little toothpick stuck in the meat serving of the day that says "may or may not contain meat and or meat byproducts."

In a nutshell mosher, you'll find that whatever calories you can consume during your training will be welcome ones...The beers on weekends won't even be empty calories as it'll help you bond with your new brothers and sisters. I still maintain beer/alcohol is a foodgroup when you're away from home! There's not alot of room for snacking in the timetable, and the DS usually frown on removing food from the mess....You'll still be strong when you leave BMQ if not leaner, if you do it right. The food is part of the 'overall experience" !

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2009, 22:41:48 »

Oh, and you'll also get the opportunity to try some regional foods you'll have never otherwise heard of (Donairs always seem to blow the mind of folks from out west, vs perogies blowing the mind of those from out east. Tourtiere? Well, try it, but I recommend a heavy dousing of ketchup :))

Three of my favorites!!!!!  If there's shepherd's pie I want to go NOW!!
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2009, 22:56:04 »
What I also should have said is that our mess food, while sometimes lacking a little is much better than some if not many or most of our allies....
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2009, 07:29:58 »
Yeah... try eating in a Brit mess tent for a while.... :P
American mess tent ... why does everything appear to be fried :P
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 07:34:15 »
American mess tent ... why does everything appear to be fried :P

The American mess in KAF made me feel like I was at a kid's school.  Sugar Pops, Frosted Flakes, Froot Loops.....I said "Where are all the grown-up cereals?"  Not long after we arrived, you were able to get regular Corn Flakes, Special K, etc.  Mind you, some of those guys were doing PT 2-3 times a day, so I guess they could afford to eat all the high fat and sugar content.

As far as BMQ goes, you'll be glad of the food, if you get enough time to eat it.  ;)
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2009, 07:45:52 »
Yeah... try eating in a Brit mess tent for a while.... :P
American mess tent ... why does everything appear to be fried :P

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2009, 07:48:10 »
Three of my favorites!!!!!  If there's shepherd's pie I want to go NOW!!

Sheaperds pie is definitly in the menu and its pretty damn good too.

You guys are all making me hungry!!!!!!

I am an extremely picky eater, and with that said, I have always been a fan of the food provided by the CF mess system.  I never ever come close to eating so well at home.

The only thing I dont like about the CF food system is box lunches and hay boxes/IMPs.  But that usually has more to do with the surroundings then anything else  ;D

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2009, 07:51:41 »
Sheaperds pie is definitly in the menu and its pretty damn good too.

You guys are all making me hungry!!!!!!

I am an extremely picky eater, and with that said, I have always been a fan of the food provided by the CF mess system.  I never ever come close to eating so well at home.

The only thing I dont like about the CF food system is box lunches and hay boxes/IMPs.  But that usually has more to do with the surroundings then anything else  ;D

I freaking LOVE box lunches too.  I'm a nut I know - but it reminds me of my cadet days - and some of the IMPs aren't so bad either - I just don't enjoy that bread at all....
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2009, 08:10:31 »
I freaking LOVE box lunches too.  I'm a nut I know - but it reminds me of my cadet days - and some of the IMPs aren't so bad either - I just don't enjoy that bread at all....

IMPs are too damn small.  I am not fun sized, im man sized and IMPs just aggrevate me!  I need about for of the damn things per meal which of course never happens.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #24 on: February 24, 2009, 08:38:03 »
IMPs are too damn small.  I am not fun sized, im man sized and IMPs just aggrevate me!  I need about for of the damn things per meal which of course never happens.

LOL!!!  I'll save you all my IMP bread - how about that?  (I mean - it does have a pretty long shelf life)  :salute:
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2009, 11:24:49 »
Dunno... I find that the IMPs aren't bad... given a chance to heat them.
But portions are "bare minimum" for someone working hard
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2009, 14:10:44 »
I'm sure I'll do fine on an IMP then being that I'm about 3 apples high.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2009, 18:18:42 »
That is, if you get to eat...

More than once, I've only had time for a glass of lemonade or chocolate milk, and a muffin.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2009, 18:28:46 »
The only thing I dont like about the CF food system is box lunches and hay boxes/IMPs.  But that usually has more to do with the surroundings then anything else  ;D

You get two (!) box lunches per flight at CFANS.  I've always just given the first one right back to 402 Sqn...who honestly needs 4 mystery-meat sandwiches?  :-X
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2009, 18:30:18 »
Dunno... I find that the IMPs aren't bad... given a chance to heat them.
But portions are "bare minimum" for someone working hard
 

Three meals (B\L\S) will total around 3600 calories, so they're roughly 1200 per.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2009, 18:53:39 »
I'm a bit surprised to read a post like that. I may be the one which is not normal in here, but I don't give a damn about what i'll be eating this summer during my BMOQ. I'll eat what's in the plate... and that's it!

I don't like seafoods, in fact I hate seafoods, but since i'm not allergic to it i'll eat it if needed.

I'd rather focus on I perform on the course rather than what i'll eat in a couple of hours.. But maybe it's just me...

Edit:

In fact I focus on getting in shape and getting used to get up at 5:30AM, that is more a concern to me than foods  :boring:
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2009, 18:55:55 »
 >:D

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2009, 18:59:40 »
Thats assuming you eat EVERYTHING in the package though right?  Most only have the time or means to eat the main meal, the desert and maybe the bread.  Thats been my experience anyway.
 

Three meals (B\L\S) will total around 3600 calories, so they're roughly 1200 per.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2009, 19:39:44 »
Thats assuming you eat EVERYTHING in the package though right?  Most only have the time or means to eat the main meal, the desert and maybe the bread.  Thats been my experience anyway.

It's not my fault you're not armoured and can't carry your kitchen around with you 8). Beside the IMPs, we normally carry fresh with us to supplement. Sausage, eggs, bread, bacon, potatoes, stuff like that. Oh well, another fine day under the black (armour) beret ;)
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2009, 19:46:46 »
It's not my fault you're not armoured and can't carry your kitchen around with you 8). Beside the IMPs, we normally carry fresh with us to supplement. Sausage, eggs, bread, bacon, potatoes, stuff like that. Oh well, another fine day under the black (armour) beret ;)

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2009, 19:49:22 »
Matter of fact our Gwagons do have air, thank you very much :nod:
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2009, 20:54:44 »
I'm a bit surprised to read a post like that. I may be the one which is not normal in here, but I don't give a damn about what i'll be eating this summer during my BMOQ. I'll eat what's in the plate... and that's it!

I don't like seafoods, in fact I hate seafoods, but since i'm not allergic to it i'll eat it if needed.

I'd rather focus on I perform on the course rather than what i'll eat in a couple of hours.. But maybe it's just me...

Edit:

In fact I focus on getting in shape and getting used to get up at 5:30AM, that is more a concern to me than foods  :boring:

I'm already in top shape, and i'm fully confident that the bmq's physical part will be a breeze seeing that i already work out and keep my body in top notch condition for competitive fighting. Plus read any fitness, personal trainer, weight loss or mixed martial arts books. They all state that you'll never be in the best condition with out proper nutrition. All athletes are on a strict daily meal plan. Your body doesn't just get in good shape from working it hard. Your body needs the right protein, healthy fats and vitamins to run and repair properly.

Edit: I'm with you on the whole 5:30 in the morning thing though, that'll be rough first week around.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2009, 21:27:23 »
It's actually 0500 there guy.  And yes it sucks - that's what time I have to get up to drop off the little dude off at daycare.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2009, 22:33:26 »
Probably get use to it after awhile. Helps to get a good sleep.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2009, 22:39:52 »
Also helps to sometimes NOT get a good nights sleep.  You'll have to function under all sorts of lovely conditions.  As will I.
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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2009, 22:56:40 »
Edit:

In fact I focus on getting in shape

Well, its kinda hard to criticize someone when you aren't in shape (or where you want to be). As a picky, healthy eater, I'm just as curious as the original poster as to what is served and be prepared for some of the diet changes that I might expect.

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Re: Meals served at bmq?
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2009, 22:57:56 »
Well, its kinda hard to criticize someone when you aren't in shape (or where you want to be). As a picky, healthy eater, I'm just as curious as the original poster as to what is served and be prepared for some of the diet changes that I might expect.

Think of a restaurant with a salad bar. Pick up a menu. Pick one each from columns A,B&C. There's your typical mess hall menu.

No one here is going to run you through all the possibilities, calorie counts or carb loads. If you guys are that wrapped up about yourselves and your diets, you have to get a life. Wait till you get to the field and working, you'll eat whatever is put in front of you. You'll all have bigger problems to contend with when you hit Basic, besides what you're going to shove into your gob. Get over it. There's been more than enough info given in this thread to satisfy the most picky eater.

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Meals at BMQ
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2015, 22:00:10 »
I checked out almost every other post on this site related to "Food and BMQ" but found nothing that actually states the amount of calories one can consume on a daily basis in BMQ. I was told that my BMQ would be soon, and my question is would it be hard to eat between 2500-2600 calories every day? I am a powerlifter and a natural bodybuilder, and would like to know wether I should lose some wheight or gain some before BMQ. I am 6 ft at 165 lbs with 8% body fat.

Any responses would be appreciated.

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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2015, 22:04:09 »
How fast can you eat  >:D?


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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2015, 22:05:35 »
How fast can you eat  >:D?


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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2015, 22:09:14 »
Just one more question. Would I have access to a gym during BMQ? Mine is 3 weeks longs since I'm applying for the Primary Reserves.

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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2015, 22:12:09 »
I checked out almost every other post on this site related to "Food and BMQ" but found nothing that actually states the amount of calories one can consume on a daily basis in BMQ. I was told that my BMQ would be soon, and my question is would it be hard to eat between 2500-2600 calories every day? I am a powerlifter and a natural bodybuilder, and would like to know wether I should lose some wheight or gain some before BMQ. I am 6 ft at 165 lbs with 8% body fat.

Any responses would be appreciated.

You don't need to do anything in advance.  Once at BMQ, your weight will adjust itself based on the training and meals.  You might go up and you might go down.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2015, 22:20:26 »
I checked out almost every other post on this site related to "Food and BMQ" but found nothing that actually states the amount of calories one can consume on a daily basis in BMQ. I was told that my BMQ would be soon, and my question is would it be hard to eat between 2500-2600 calories every day? I am a powerlifter and a natural bodybuilder, and would like to know wether I should lose some wheight or gain some before BMQ. I am 6 ft at 165 lbs with 8% body fat.

Any responses would be appreciated.

You will be given 3 meals a day. However, your time to actually eat will be short with timings to meet. If you're late for a class, you'll be late for your meal which means less time to eat in order to be on time for the next period of training. So, to answer your question more realistically: you probably won't be able to get in all your desired calories a day; 2000 sure, but probably not a whole lot more.

Here is some reading for you:

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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2015, 22:28:57 »
Yes without question you will be fed. All thats left to consider is how much time you'll have to actually eat.  As for using the gym, I doubt youll have the free time on a PRes BMQ.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2015, 22:33:58 »
Yes without question you will be fed. All thats left to consider is how much time you'll have to actually eat.  As for using the gym, I doubt youll have the free time on a PRes BMQ.

Other than morning PT, highly unlikely.

Morning PT will usually consist of running and maybe some circuit type body weight exercises (some using sandbags and/or rifles). Our PT guy was a MCpl given "Most fit soldier" award 6 years in a row. Total beast.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2015, 22:51:45 »
in 3 weeks of being at RegF BMQ I lost about 15 pounds, though I ate like a maniac. If you don't eat they actually considered it disobeying orders..

You have 3 meals a day (something I wasn't used to), and usually you can grab many different portions to your meals, EG: Dessert, fruits, salads etc.... I loved the food at BMQ but I had to visit the bathroom a fair bit haha.

Doubt you'll have gym access, but like everyone said your morning PT and such usually is as sufficient as it can get.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2015, 07:07:56 »
We had a guy in our platoon submit a memo that got approved to use the pool on weekends off after indoc. You could always try to submit a memo asking permission to use the gym, but that being said be careful what you wish for  >:D

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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2015, 10:39:54 »
As of right now the PRES DP1 BMQ is 23 Training days. That is standard across the CAF IAW the QS and TP. Depending on which calender days (parades, holidays, weekends, etc) will vary the actual contract length, but generally you are looking at 22-24 days of actual training.

Those calender day differences will be the cause of why one course is 3 weeks and another is 4.

For example, if there is a change of command parade on that base/TC, than it is likely that the course will stop for 2 days in order to conduct that parade (Meaford July 2015), if there is a holiday and the TC is giving the candidates the holiday off that will again add a day within the contract and push back the training days.

As for meals, the quality of the food will differ from kitchen to kitchen, but the actual alotment of meals will be the same. You will be given three meals per day and possibly four a day when in the field.

If your instructors are keen they will adhere to the meal timings layed out by the Base HQ in order to keep the line in the mess hall as short as possible.

for example, I just recently finished teaching an DP1 Infantry and a BMQ(L), all of my students were given meal timings of no less than 25 minutes.

As for food specifically, most mess halls will have a hot meal line (entree, pasta, side, vegetable), a salad bar, desert bar, soup/sandwhich bar. There is usually never a time where a troop has not enough time to eat. Even if your timing is shortened....for poor time management on the instructors part, troops will generall skip the hot meal line and just grab soup, sandwhich, fruit, etc.

In terms of using a fitness facility is entirely up to your course staff. Some may grant you that privilege to access the fitness facility after your training hours, some will refuse. The morning fitness training on BMQ is generally very poor.

It is an introduction to uniformed fitness to all students and is conducted at a slow pace and then progresses. Runs, ruck marches, etc are generally very poor. Depending on the individual running the session, some members may get too much of a workout, and some may not even get winded.

Worse comes to worse, bring your self some protein or anything to keep with your personal kit and have a protein water mess drink during your off time to fill in the calorie gap. and if your worried about your fitness level, you will probably end up leaning out since your morning fitness will not likely include anything weighted.

Hope that helps, have a good course and good luck

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Fasting before and after BMQ.
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2017, 21:05:21 »
Hello,

I looked through every post that had "Fasting" in it to see if the answer to my question was anywhere there, but no luck as the only real fasting post was about Ramadan, so here I am. I am not 100% sure if this is the correct subforum to be posting in regards to this, but recruiting sounds about right. I have a few simple questions related to fasting. Anyways, I'll get to it.

With a quick google search, wikipedia shows the "routine" time-wise for BMQ, whether it's accurate to the letter or just a rough estimate. Going by THAT, you'd be eating three times a day.
However, I actually fast daily, for many months now. I stick to one meal a day, hitting all the macros I need and all, and it has worked out beautifully. On top of that, I also do low carb, which has also worked out beautifully.

Please understand, I am not religious, and I am not doing this for religious purposes.

Having said that, if you -do- fast and all, are you able to do the same at the initial 8 months of training (Infantry) or do you -HAVE- to follow the eating routine provided no matter what?
Also, if the answer to the above would be that you must follow the routine, would I be correct to assume that -after- all the training, you'd be able to continue your eating habits on your own again?

That's all for now, if I remember anything else, I'll edit.

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Re: Fasting before and after BMQ.
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2017, 21:38:23 »
Hello,

I looked through every post that had "Fasting" in it to see if the answer to my question was anywhere there, but no luck as the only real fasting post was about Ramadan, so here I am. I am not 100% sure if this is the correct subforum to be posting in regards to this, but recruiting sounds about right. I have a few simple questions related to fasting. Anyways, I'll get to it.

With a quick google search, wikipedia shows the "routine" time-wise for BMQ, whether it's accurate to the letter or just a rough estimate. Going by THAT, you'd be eating three times a day.
However, I actually fast daily, for many months now. I stick to one meal a day, hitting all the macros I need and all, and it has worked out beautifully. On top of that, I also do low carb, which has also worked out beautifully.

Please understand, I am not religious, and I am not doing this for religious purposes.

Having said that, if you -do- fast and all, are you able to do the same at the initial 8 months of training (Infantry) or do you -HAVE- to follow the eating routine provided no matter what?
Also, if the answer to the above would be that you must follow the routine, would I be correct to assume that -after- all the training, you'd be able to continue your eating habits on your own again?

That's all for now, if I remember anything else, I'll edit.

Thank you.

Personally speaking here, fasting might be working for you for whatever purposes you need it to right now, but fasting during BMQ? I can almost guarantee that whatever workout regimen you’re doing now is still burning fewer calories than what you will burn during an average day on course. Some days are physically easier than others, but all-in-all, you need to fuel your body consistently. Keep in mind the fact that you’ll also be sleeping, thus laying still, considerably less. One meal a day...even if you stuff yourself (which will feel awful if you have PT or obstacle course or ruck march or forced march or drill or what-have-you immediately following a meal, and there’s a good chance it could come back up...)

I’m not a dietician or personal trainer or anything...like I said at the beginning—personally speaking. You’ll need the fuel consistently throughout the day where you can get it. You won’t be doing super-crazy, hardcore, weight training for hours or anything like that. Instead, you’ll be engaging in a ton of activities that require endurance, lots of cardio, lots of stair climbing and such at any given time. There’s down time, yes, and some PT classes are far less strenuous than others, but I simply couldn’t have imagined not eating. At some point, maybe not right away, you’ll risk passing out, if not, then feeling physically awful at best. BMQ is a very different environment that you can’t simulate at home—you’ll need the calories/macros, whatever. The last thing you need is your body giving out or being even more stressed than it needs to be making you more prone to injury.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2017, 16:10:40 »
You arent force fed food, you go to the mess at the designated time with your course mates.
You then choose what you want to eat or not eat. Im not going to lecture youon if its a good idea or not.

Adjust your eating routine as you see fit.

When I did basic a few moons ago I did not eat breakfast...never did before, still dont unless its a crazy Ex and Ive been up for 30ish hours.

You know your body so its up to you.

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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2017, 16:30:54 »
You will probably find that your caloric needs are greater at BMQ than they normally would be. I suggest you may want to go with the flow until BMQ is over and you can manage your meal plan more independently.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2017, 16:31:06 »
You arent force fed food, .......

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Re: Fasting before and after BMQ.
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2017, 16:50:11 »
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« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2017, 18:10:16 »
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2017, 20:11:14 »
Hello,

Thanks for the replies. It's good to know you're not "forced" to eat. This will help me tons.

My question has been answered, so I will no longer reply.

Thank you.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2017, 20:16:25 »
Having taught Infantry courses before I recommend that you don't try fasting during your Infantry course. The course is a physically active course and you will burn calories, majority of pers on the course lose weight during it. Even if you eat small portions it will be better for you, they will not like it if you collapse because you are not eating. Just my advice.
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Re: Meals at BMQ
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2017, 21:06:03 »
I'm anxious to see the follow up post to this after he's recoursed.
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