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Offline tomahawk6

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Suicide Prevention
« on: August 15, 2009, 19:35:38 »
Suicide continues to be a serious mental health issue not to mention a tragedy for those left behind. The Army's ACE program is an attempt to address the problem and to save lives. There is a video of MG Graham discussing the loss of his youngest son an ROTC cadet to suicide after the loss of his oldest son in Iraq.


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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 14:25:00 »
I've taken the ASIST (Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training) course (2 days) thru the CF and will say it is definitely worth the time.  One of those ones you hope you never have to call upon but better safe than sorry, right?
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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 22:19:00 »
When asking THE question, ask about "when, where, how".
More these will be define, more the person is near a tentative
of suicide. More the plan is elaborate, more it is dangerous
to leave a person alone.

"Someday, somehow" is less near then "tomorrow at 8h, with
X gun".

Possible warning signs

Recognize the Signs Of Depression and Possible Suicide Risk

    * Talking About Dying -- any mention of dying, disappearing, jumping,
       shooting oneself, or other types of self harm.

    * Recent Loss -- through death, divorce, separation, broken relationship,
       loss of job, money, status, self-confidence, self-esteem, loss of religious faith,
       loss of interest in friends, sex, hobbies, activities previously enjoyed

    * Change in Personality -- sad, withdrawn, irritable, anxious, tired, indecisive,

    * Change in Behavior -- can't concentrate on school, work, routine tasks

    * Change in Sleep Patterns -- insomnia, often with early waking or oversleeping,

    * Change in Eating Habits -- loss of appetite and weight, or overeating

    * Diminished Sexual Interest -- impotence, menstrual abnormalities (often missed periods)

    * Fear of losing control -- going crazy, harming self or others

    * Low self esteem -- feeling worthless, shame, overwhelming guilt, self-hatred,
       "everyone would be better off without me"

    * No hope for the future -- believing things will never get better; that nothing
       will ever change

Other things to watch for- Suicidal impulses, statements, plans; giving away favorite
things; previous suicide attempts, substance abuse, making out wills, arranging for the care
of pets, extravagant spending, agitation, hyperactivity, restlessness or lethargy.

REMEMBER: The risk of suicide may be greatest as the depression lifts.
(because the person as now more energy to act)

Check this easy to remember list: P.L.A.I.D. P.A.L.S.

Things to watch for when assessing potential risk...

Plan -- Do they have one?

Lethality -- Is it lethal? Can they die?

Availability -- Do they have the means to carry it out?

Illness -- Do they have a mental or physical illness?

Depression -- Chronic or specific incident(s)?

Previous attempts -- How many? How recent?

Alone -- Are they alone? Do they have a support system? Partner? Are they alone right now?

Loss -- Have they suffered a loss? Death, job, relationship, self esteem?

Substance Abuse (or use) -- Drugs, alcohol, medicine? Current, chronic?

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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 22:50:47 »
Some good info here- stickied
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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2009, 01:11:08 »
I assume that this support is available to reservists as well? It will be interesting to see how we deal with this issue in Canada for those 'part timers' who are back from the front, and who are not as easy to get ahold of as the regular soldier.
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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 20:19:25 »
Suicide is such a strange thing.  One guy can have everything going for him and just have a really terrible day and it pushes him over the edge with no warning.  The someone else can have every excuse possible available to him (cheating wife, in debt, friends who make fun of him) and he keeps slogging through it with no help.

It is a massive problem though so I applaud any initiative to reduce the rates.

As much of a strange bird that Col (Ret'd) Grossman in from On Killing and On Combat fame, possibly the best advice he's ever given is to address this issue (and survivor guilt specifically) as "Even though the war is over, I'll be damned if I'm going to give the enemy one more kill".
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Re: Suicide Prevention
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2020, 19:19:09 »
Putting it here instead of creating a new thread:

Soldiers and Marines die by suicide 50 percent more often than sailors and airmen, report finds

According to reports filed at the time of the suicides or suicide attempts, relationship stress was the biggest motivating factor ― in nearly 40 percent of cases ― followed by legal/administrative issues and work-related stress.
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