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aesop081

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« Reply #75 on: June 04, 2012, 16:55:46 »
I assume a little more knowledge is needed?

As far as i know, they are not trained to fly the thing. When crap hits the fan and the pilot is incapacitated, the ejection handle is there.

To answer another of your questions, there is training for ACSOs posted to 414 and is specific to their jobs. In fact, a new training course is in the development process.

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« Reply #76 on: June 04, 2012, 17:01:20 »
Thanks!

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« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2012, 17:57:59 »
As far as i know, they are not trained to fly the thing. When crap hits the fan and the pilot is incapacitated, the ejection handle is there.

Correct. In fact, we were given specific orders NOT to attempt to do anything more than orbit till gas is gone. On the other hand.. you will get some stick time if the pilot so wishes.

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« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2012, 18:40:23 »
Thanks!

How does the EWO training work? Is it some course you can try and get later or are there ACSO's sent right to EW and 414?

I'd be MORE then happy to end up in any airframe if selected to ACSO - Just i cant find much detail on the electronic warfare stuff, vs how you get selected for other airframes (read: luck and maybe your preference).


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« Reply #79 on: June 04, 2012, 18:46:27 »

How does the EWO training work?

You get posted to 414, you get the training. Pretty simple.

I've seen both experienced guys and pipes (new guys fresh out of ACSO school) get sent there.

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« Reply #80 on: June 04, 2012, 18:52:14 »
Perfect. Question Answered.

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seawolf

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« Reply #81 on: June 05, 2012, 18:19:54 »
I have my ACSO test June 18th at my local CFRC.

I know no one can discuss specifics. I just wrote the CFAT yesterday and passed no issue - is the math harder then in the problem solving section of the CFAT?

All i was told was that it's going to be about 2.5 hrs and I'll have a hard time answering all the questions. Told it was basically a test of how quickly i can do math.

Accurate?

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« Reply #82 on: June 05, 2012, 18:20:34 »

seawolf

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« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2012, 18:30:55 »
Thanks for the quick response CDN Aviator.

You seem to be my personal ACSO questions answerer yesterday and today...  :nod:

Cheers

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« Reply #84 on: June 05, 2012, 18:32:24 »


You seem to be my personal ACSO questions answerer yesterday and today...  :nod:


Just remember, i ain't an ACSO, i just have to suffer life with many of them.

I did write the ACSO test 4 years ago.

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« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2012, 19:03:12 »
Yea i know you are not an ACSO. Are you an AES Op?

I'm more then happy to get any info I can about the job from all angles. I am interested in ACSO partly because it seems to be evolving, especially with the new technologies of UAV's and EW. Plus, with new airframes (Cyclone, new Hercs) - seems to be a cool place to possibly land.

With my 3 trade choices being very different (LogO, ArmourO and ACSO) - the career manager gave me good advice yesterday. He said to treat them as 3 first choices and not 1. 2. & 3; as I could end up being offered any of them. Thus I have been doing even more research into ACSO, and get more and more interested with everything I read.

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« Reply #86 on: June 05, 2012, 19:10:43 »
Are you an AES Op?

Yes.

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new Hercs)

No ACSOs on the J-Hercs.

seawolf

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« Reply #87 on: June 05, 2012, 19:30:59 »

No ACSOs on the J-Hercs.

Really? Why is that?

aesop081

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« Reply #88 on: June 05, 2012, 19:32:19 »
Really? Why is that?

The aircraft was designed not needing one.

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« Reply #89 on: June 05, 2012, 19:46:24 »
Ah yes - from the RCAF website on the new J's

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Not only is the new Hercules a more capable aircraft, it also requires fewer crew members than the older Hercules; it flies with a minimum crew of three – two pilots and a loadmaster – compared to five on the older Hercules.


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Re: ACSO Testing Question.
« Reply #90 on: June 06, 2012, 15:23:07 »
just out of curiousity, what kind of math exactly? trig, calc, functions? 



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« Reply #91 on: June 06, 2012, 15:56:40 »
Really? Why is that?

Because of a 3 letter acronym: GPS

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Re: ACSO Testing Question.
« Reply #92 on: June 06, 2012, 17:32:37 »
Because of a 3 letter acronym: GPS

GPS doesn't solve all nav problems.  Just ask anyone who has taken a wrong turn b/c Garmin said so. 
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« Reply #93 on: June 07, 2012, 11:57:38 »
Because of a 3 letter acronym: GPS

Not quite the full story seeing as the brand new just off the production line USAF MC-130J has a three person cockit crew including two pilots and a CSO (USAF equivalent to RCAF ACSO). Of course it has a slightly different mission than our 130Js.

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« Reply #94 on: June 07, 2012, 12:08:44 »
Of course it has a slightly different mission than our 130Js.

"slightly" is a bit of an understatement  ;D

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« Reply #95 on: June 07, 2012, 12:19:24 »
"slightly" is a bit of an understatement  ;D

True.

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Re: ACSO Testing Question.
« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2012, 09:12:43 »
"slightly" is a bit of an understatement  ;D

 :nod:   

Any Herc packing AGM-114 Hellfire  is indeed "different".  The Combat Shadow II definitely qualifies.


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« Reply #97 on: June 21, 2012, 20:58:22 »
Well test was moved from Monday to tomorrow.

Write it at 9am. Brushing up again on math (just did this a couple weeks ago for the CFAT).

Wish me luck.

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Re: ACSO Testing Question.
« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2012, 01:16:12 »
FMS would be a more appropriate three letter acronym to replace the Navs. A GPS does not manage your fuel endurance or calculate your PNR/ETP. It also blends together other sources (INU, AHARS, etc) to make you ISO compliant with flying north and cross the pond.  Sorry for the tangent. What were we talking about again?  Oh yeh, pilots....
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Re: ACSO Testing Question.
« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2012, 02:12:46 »
FMS would be a more appropriate three letter acronym to replace the Navs. A GPS does not manage your fuel endurance or calculate your PNR/ETP. It also blends together other sources (INU, AHARS, etc) to make you ISO compliant with flying north and cross the pond.  Sorry for the tangent. What were we talking about again?  Oh yeh, pilots....

Yep.  Partially the reason why we aren't called Air Navigators anymore.  Navigation is but one part of what an ACSO does, dependent on airframe (and sometimes an ACSO doesn't even do that.)  But being a SAR dude, you should know that  ;)
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