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Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« on: June 18, 2010, 16:33:39 »
Nice to see. Should be out in July, between $40-$50.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 18:19:36 »
that is so cool
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 21:23:35 »
...drool... :crybaby:drool... :crybaby:wish I still did models...moved up to the crashing type with rotating wings...nice work.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2010, 10:12:15 »
I didn't think Kodiak was adopted as the name for the LAV-3. Is that along the same lines as the M113 Garvin? ;)
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2010, 10:42:43 »
I just posted that on the review section of the site.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2010, 13:04:22 »
I didn't think Kodiak was adopted as the name for the LAV-3. Is that along the same lines as the M113 Garvin? ;)

Quite right. The original box art had the name Kodiak on it, but before the artwork went to press, the company changed it to LAV-III. Nice to see a company that listens to constructive criticism, though the "Kodiak" reference may not be completely removed from the instructions sheets etc.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2010, 14:56:16 »
And like the "Gavin" it may some day have it's own lunatic internet champion.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 15:17:39 »
Dadgum it, Michael, I followed the gavin link you posted. Arrrggghhh!

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 23:05:16 »
Ha ha....GAVIN!

What a bunch of utter tripe.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 23:45:03 »
Yea! Something new to have unbuilt on the shelf.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2010, 00:23:02 »
The LAV TUA looks good as well

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2010, 08:19:19 »
I just might have to pick up one of these.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 08:37:16 »
That Sparky guy is quite the wingnut. :nod:

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 10:14:38 »
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 14:52:41 »
Super Gavin??? Is that the one that mounts the Attack dog that launches bees from it mouth??? :D

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 16:25:58 »
Super Gavin??? Is that the one that mounts the Attack dog that launches bees from it mouth??? :D

No, its the one with sharks with fricken laser beams on their heads!  ;D

The TUA looks good too, but they moulded it with the extra armour bolted on. Not sure if LAV-TUA ever wore that armour?

I've been working with them on a BISON. They have just done an ASLAV-PC, so I would think their BISON release would be out soonish. Not sure what version, though I did provide lots of Amb refs.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2010, 21:00:31 »
MMMMM, Laser beams.....and now back to the post. ;D

The LAV TUAs at the Regt never had AoA kits, the whole reason they never deployed with our Tank Sqns was the lack of a comprehensive AoA that provided the appropriate protection for the TOW and operator.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 16:28:06 »
Since this is the thread that led me to these forums I figure I ought to introduce myself here. I was looking for info on the Trumpeter kit and how well done it is, and eventually found this thread... hooray for Google.

It all started a couple of weeks ago when I saw this on the highway one afternoon. Very cool! That got me thinking about building an APC model... never done one of those before... just cars years ago and some aircraft more recently. A little bit of research ended up with me figuring out it was the Bison MRT, but that there's no actual model of that. No big deal... but I still wanted to try my hand at some armor, preferably Canadian.

Lucky me, Trumpeter has a great looking LAV-III out. Next trip to the hobby shop I'll hopefully be able to pick one up... if not, order it.

Has anyone here started building the kit yet? The reviews I've seen online so far are just overviews... nothing about the actual build yet. And before anyone asks... I'm not one of those ridiculously talented modelers who hand fabricate their own parts to be able to precisely model anything down to the very last, perfect detail. I've never even used photo-etched parts before... or resin. Gonna' have to learn how soon though.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2010, 08:57:05 »
Nice picture. The first time I encountered that specific CFR 95188 was at MTSC Wainwright back in 1994. It was a very new piece of kit back then.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2010, 10:49:49 »
Still eagerly waiting for a Bison.  :'(
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2010, 12:49:48 »
I wish I could have taken more (and better) pics, but in traffic, raining, on an iPhone... that was the best I was going to get. Given I was on the 40 in Montreal heading West I assume it had just left Longue Pointe..?

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 23:48:49 »
I just bought the kit, and the Leopard 2A6 as well. I have not opened them yet.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2010, 08:39:18 »
I just bought the kit, and the Leopard 2A6 as well. I have not opened them yet.

Post pics when your done!
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2010, 09:24:29 »
It'll likely be years before that happens, as I already have far too many incompleted hobby projects as it is and I'm going somewhere for a while soon.

If you have a favourite CFR number, and suitable photographs, I'd happily use that as my subject.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2010, 11:31:13 »
It'll likely be years before that happens, as I already have far too many incompleted hobby projects as it is and I'm going somewhere for a while soon.

If you have a favourite CFR number, and suitable photographs, I'd happily use that as my subject.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2010, 17:11:02 »

Has anyone here started building the kit yet? The reviews I've seen online so far are just overviews... nothing about the actual build yet. Cheers

Hi, I'm about 3 hours into my TUA. I'm building it straight from the box. So far, I'm happily impressed. The overall fit has been pretty decent. Trumpeter would have you build the lower hull complete, and then the upper hull complete before mating the halves. My only deviation from the kit directions was to first glue the bare lower, upper, and rear hull plate together and letting that set up before adding the breakie-offie bits. Suspension is a little fiddly, but all 8 wheels sit straight and level.

Its too bad the AoA package is moulded on. Removing it would be a chore, so I've decided just to build it as is.

Kit comes with a bit of PE. Fit of that has been so-so. Some needle nose pliers helped with bending it. I had to dig up some pics of the real ramp-spare-tire carrier to figure out how it all went together. The other PE for the engine grills has fit well. I'll throw some pics up later.

I'll say this - after getting about 1/4 of the way through their LAV-TUA, I ordered two LAV-III kits; one to make into a LORIT and the other to build a Nanuk RWS on.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2010, 17:35:27 »
I was looking at the Real Models site http://www.realmodel.cz/ and attempting to decide what detailing kits I needed. It would seem that I'll end up spending more on those than on the base kit, which apparently has quite a few errors.

What's a "LORIT", specifically?

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2010, 18:56:52 »
LORIT: LAV Operational Requirement Integration Task. Easiest ID feature is the large stowage bins (3 on one side, 1 on the other) and the belly armour. There's more to the LORIT than that, but I'm not sure how much is public domain.

As for the upgrades... yes, you could spend 5x the price of the base kit. I happen to think the base kit (at around $25 + shipping) falls into the 'good enough' category. Built and painted well, you can have yourself a decent looking replica. I'm not sure what the errors are on the LAV-III kit, but I have not gone over it too critically. I know the UNMEE markings are not correct for the AoA version. I think out of the box you can build an accurate early ISAF version.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2010, 21:30:28 »
There's an article on the Real Model site that shows the difference between armour panel lines on the kit and the prototype, and a shortening of the hull. I'd like to see the Real Model kits in a shop before purchasing. I'll probably ave a better idea when I open up the box. It's still in my van, as I've been a little busy with other stuff this weekend.

"LORIT" - clumsy name. It sounds like a bunch of random words thrown together.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2010, 22:16:40 »
I think that I just need 2008-09 Update Set http://realmodel.cz/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-ask.tpl&product_id=402&category_id=19&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=79. It seems to have everything that I'd want. I may order the Small Stowage kit, and the drink one when it becomes available.

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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2010, 01:38:14 »
Yep - that set would definitely set the LAV off nice. The kit comes with some printed paper IMP/Water/Pop stock, which might be a lower resolution copy of the real models stuff.

I just ordered this set for mine:
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2010, 16:41:59 »
Here's where mine is at. Still have to add the grenade launchers, C6, and what I think is an LWR on a short mast at the rear of the turret.

Fit-wise, its not bad for trumpeter. Which is to say expect to have to sand and file to get a good join. I'm seen some guys point out a few dimensional issues with the rear/top hull and the placement of some hatches. My main problem was the turret baskets, which were badly warped. Lots of clamping and superglue later, I had them more or less straight. The sight covers on the turret do not look to be correct.

Detail is not bad. You get some copper tow cable in the kit, plus what I think is just the right amount of photo-etched metal parts.

Instructions are a bit puzzling, in that they have you jumping all over the kit instead of following a logical sequence. Like the TUA kit, the first thing I did was join the upper, lower, and rear hull. Its a lot easier to handle with that out of the way.

I'm no expert on the LAV-III, but out of the box, this looks to be accurate for a TF 3-06 vehicle (and by default earlier JTF-Afg TF's?). I think I will do mine up as per some Combat Camera pics on Op MEDUSA.

Got it for around $35 Cdn shipped. Good value, but if you are going for accuracy, the (much more expensive) Real Models kit is the way to go.




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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2010, 17:37:56 »
...

"LORIT" - clumsy name. It sounds like a bunch of random words thrown together.

True.  But to be fair, "LORIT" was the just name of the design/installation effort to bring together a number of upgrades/additions/modifications to the LAVs in response to requests from TFA.  It was never intended to be the name for the vehicle that results from that process.  It just kind of worked out that way.  There was (is?) a designation to identify the resulting vehicle configuration, but it does not appear to have stuck (or at least found common use).
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2010, 09:13:42 »
Got it for around $35 Cdn shipped. Good value, but if you are going for accuracy, the (much more expensive) Real Models kit is the way to go.

Your model has re-aroused my interest in building models, great job!
Where exactly did you order the kit from?
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2010, 12:58:59 »
Nice work. Looking forward to the paint job :)
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2010, 14:09:51 »
The LAV kit is missing a few odds and sods, such as the pioneer kit guard, engine grill plate and the engine grill cover. Mind you some extra cloth and some sheet styrene and you'll be good to go.

Many LAVs from Archer roto 0 had lengths of angle iron (piquets) welded on the rear from the road moves from Kabul to Kandahar for an extra 4 jerry can of diesel. Get some good scale brass or copper angle rod and that will do nicely as well.

Note how the tow cables are done up on the front of the vehicle as well. Not strung along the side as it's not very practical at all.

Some also had an X-wing for the PRC 117s or an improvised one.

The space for the winch was used by many crews to put in extra rations/ water/ whatever else you needed. It was kept in place with some wire mesh and some straps.

Hope that helps a bit.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2010, 14:45:18 »
Your model has re-aroused my interest in building models, great job!
Where exactly did you order the kit from?

Hi, I got it from Lucky Model, though its currently out of stock:
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=TP01519

For a few $ more, these guys have one left in stock
http://store.spruebrothers.com/135-trumpeter-lav-iii-kodiak-wheeled-armored-vehicle-1519-p23533.aspx
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2010, 14:53:16 »
The LAV kit is missing a few odds and sods, such as the pioneer kit guard, engine grill plate and the engine grill cover. Note how the tow cables are done up on the front of the vehicle as well. Not strung along the side as it's not very practical at all. The space for the winch was used by many crews to put in extra rations/ water/ whatever else you needed. It was kept in place with some wire mesh and some straps.

Hi, thanks, always good to have a second pair of eyes go over it before the paint goes on!

The pioneer kit guards c/w the kit, I just left them off so it would be easier to paint the tools underneath. There's a circular disk that goes over the hexagonal grill, I assume that's the engine grill plate. What is the engine grill cover?

The kit does come with a winch, but I left it off. It would have been easier to include it, as the front of the hull has holes cut for the fairlead (?) parts, which since I left off the winch, I had to fill in that area and try and detail it with some bolts.

Good point about the tow cable, it will be easier to do that way. How was it secured to the deck?

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2010, 21:25:09 »
If you look at the photo of the right side of the vehicle the engine grill cover is rolled up under the gun just behind the engine grills.

As for the tow cable, it was attached by straps to hold it to the hull when coiled up and the ends were attached to the tow points with D-rings.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2011, 19:38:58 »
Nothing like a cross Canada posting and a new job to put a crimp in the hobby time. After just over a year, I finally got a chance to relax at hobby table. But a base coat of green on them, and knocked out a Cougar while I was at it...



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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #40 on: December 24, 2011, 22:35:01 »
I see your LAV-TUA has something the 1:1 model never had...AoA. Nice job, does it come without it too?

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2011, 09:46:00 »
Well spotted. A big oversight on the part of the mould designer eh! Sadly, the AoA is moulded on and it would take a few hours of sanding to remove it.

My other TUA I think is destined to be converted to a LAV-RWS, or a LAV-Ambulance (hey, it could happen)
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2012, 19:00:20 »
Still eagerly waiting for a Bison.  :'(

Getting closer Mike. ASLAV-PC Phase III box art. The bones are there for a Bison...would not be too hard to convert into an Amb. I wonder if Trumpeter will do one though. They did the ASLAV-25, and never followed it up with a Coyote. But then they give us a LAV-III and LAV-TUA.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2012, 21:35:50 »
A little surgery on the top deck, muffler on the side, get rid of the gun mount, and we're pretty much there. The tires even look right, but some Michelins would be most accurate.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2012, 12:09:20 »
If you are interested, I got an un-built  LAV C2 Command and Control USMC I can depart with. PM me if so.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2012, 10:09:53 »
The USMC Mortar carrier variant is IMHO a better starting point than the C&C variant, it's what I used to make my Bison.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2012, 20:22:51 »
rear upper hull is different though. The ASLAV-PC has the same constant angle as the Bison. The C2 and Mortar versions have 'kinked' rear hulls.

Mike - the Aussies may have the same exhaust can as we do. I'd have to check. Or I could re-cast the one in my RealModel Coyote conversion. I want to do a Bison Amb, and a Javelin AD SEV variant.
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2012, 21:23:35 »
rear upper hull is different though. The ASLAV-PC has the same constant angle as the Bison. The C2 and Mortar versions have 'kinked' rear hulls.


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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2012, 22:58:48 »
rear upper hull is different though. The ASLAV-PC has the same constant angle as the Bison. The C2 and Mortar versions have 'kinked' rear hulls.

Mike - the Aussies may have the same exhaust can as we do. I'd have to check. Or I could re-cast the one in my RealModel Coyote conversion. I want to do a Bison Amb, and a Javelin AD SEV variant.

The ASLAV-PC should provide the better start platform.  The basic hull is closer to the Bison (rear sidewalls and ramp), Michelin XML tires are there, and the configuration of the forward hull is, in general, closer to Bison.

The muffler can is the same - you'll just need to make a different exhaust pipe.

Major hull differences (neither insurmountable) are:
Rear roof (previously mentioned) - ASLAV Type 2 has a flat roof.  Bison roof is pitched slightly.  Hatch size and layout is also different.

The commander's hatch platform is higher on the ASLAV than on Bison.

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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2012, 10:09:29 »
So GINge! where are you now with this build?
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Re: Woohoo. 1/35 LAV-III in styrene...
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2012, 23:13:19 »
ahh, yeah... good question! I mailed it to a buddy out in New Brunswick, and he was going to finish painting her up. I should find out where he's at on it!
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